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Maybe it’s due to how much I maligned him as a player… but I can’t shake the feeling that this is somehow all Jordan Russell’s fault.
 
Stop speaking so much sense. No Daicos and we clearly win. He did what Judd used to do for us. Picked them up and literally carried them over the line.
It kinda makes sense and kinda doesn't. I was watching him a lot and while he ran hard and positioned well, a lot of his 'brilliance' involved standing back and waiting for us to fumble the ball out to him.

We're really good at committing too many players to the ball in the contest which makes perennial seagulls like Nick Daicos look a million bucks.

He's one of the best in the comp so the seagull sledge is me being salty. But I'm also salty that we play a game style in the middle of the ground which seems to have no defensive awareness when the ball is in dispute.

Voss making the outlandish decision to tag him with Ollie was then compounded by him getting a freebie in the goal square after the umps didn't call a free for Haynes blatantly getting his jumper pulled by Elliot (Daicos ran hard for that though, and nobody went with him). And also O Hollands and I think it was Cowan? Falling over each other in their panic and him embarassing them in a 2 on 1 situation.

He's great player, but we handed almost everything to him on a silver platter that quarter and tied it up in a lil' bow.
 
One thing that does stand out about basics is the decision-making around playing to each player’s strengths - feeding the ball to your good kicks etc.

It blows my mind how often one of our poor kicks will have a better kick running by and not use them.

But Newman (who had at least 3 shocking moments around this kind of decision-making issue last night) went the other way. Takes the mark at back flank and handballs to Lewis Young running by. I’m sure Young wouldn’t have wanted the receive either, but who in their right mind is making that decision?

Baffling.

It’s like our players learn to play a particular style and only see things in black and white, which isn’t that surprising in some ways, because I think it’s pretty obvious that we lack players with smarts.

All little, basic things that when repeated over and over throughout a match add up to a lot.
 
Tim Clarke - midfield stoppages and structure coach. If he wasn't successful the first time around, why did we get him back. I feel like the Club is the equivalent of a lost dogs' home for assistants and coaches.
 

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Entire coaching staff need to go. To allow a player to take the field in that state is not only dangerous and negligent.
It really shows how far off we are as a professionalism organisation.
Inness has to take responsibility as high performance manager as do Cripps, Weitering and Walsh as the playing group leaders. A massive failure by the leaders of the club. It’s no wonder we are seeing the results we are on field when we have leaders who cannot speak up when there’s a clear problem.

Cripps is a poor captain. Always has been...

Can't kick a clutch goal to save himself
His skills are quite poor
Can't rally the troops
Tries to do everything himself...does not trust team mates
Rarely takes first option
Thinks he owns the CBAs
His interviews are just waffle and platitudes and his (and the team's actions) on the field bear no resemblance to what comes out of his mouth pre-game

If that triggers people, press IGNORE and move on

Also gives up on chasing his man regularly. Ned ****ing Long ran away from him repeatedly last night.

People should listen to his “unfiltered” interview during the week. It was a real insight into his mindset. We aren’t winning anything with a leader who accepts his fate as easily as Cripps does.
 
Pull your head in. Everyone can tell something was amiss, and there are questions about how it was handled, but speculating about the cause (or insisting it's something in particular without evidence) isn't appropriate.
why isn't it appropriate (serious question)?

Because the Black Dog or his cousin might be in play?
 
If what looks to have happen has happened, this club is sicker than we all anticipated.

I feel and hope Lilj is okay and supported. However this would be a gross failure from the club and just further scream crisis, low standards and incompetence.

We need to hope there is another sensible explanation because otherwise we are in a worse state than we all anticipated
 
Tim Clarke - midfield stoppages and structure coach. If he wasn't successful the first time around, why did we get him back. I feel like the Club is the equivalent of a lost dogs' home for assistants and coaches.

Because he's best mates with our Captain :rolleyes:
 
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Four key frees in the last 10 minutes cost us the game but we are ‘learning to win’. No Voss we are being flowered!!!
 
Coaching wise. I think there is a massive elephant in the room with a lot of our losses and that is a lack of a good tagger.

In the modern game you need to tag the quickest and cleverest and most damaging midfielder. You just have to or they cut you to pieces. You can't have dynamic midfielders running around doing their own thing anymore.

FFS wouldn't we love to have an Anthony Franchina or Andrew Carrazzo out there. A tagger who can win their own ball. We do have Lord, but Voss loves playing him in outside positions like wing and half forward and rarely uses him in the middle as a tagging player.

Opposition sides continue to put this player against Walsh, who is our quickest and most damaging midfielder and should not be preoccupied with someone he has to mind, he should be in there, hunting the ball and winning us games.

Against Sydney it was Gulden, Melbourne it was Pickett and last night it was Nick Daicos. IMO we minimise the damage of Daicos and Pickett then those games are wins and the Sydney game, we are probably in it for a hell of a lot longer.

Carlton is a team where opposition star midfielders come out to shine because Carlton are a team which does nothing to stop them or make their job even remotely difficult.

I have said this from day dot. Voss truly is a very very poor coach.
 
Poor use of him as a back man and he wasn't this bad in his first season for us. If they are going to play him, he should be played as a tall forward close to goal as once he gets the ball he just has to have a shot at goal or dish off to a runner going past.
He should also relieve in the ruck as he did in the last qtr as his leap allowed him to win the ruck and he followed up with a soccer off the ground to set up our first goal.
McRae put Steen in the ruck at the start of the last qtr who jumped over Pitto to get their first 4 centre clearances ( one was BS as it was the Walsh htb)

We are the only side to expose our weaknesses and stifle our strengths for the opposition to expose. You can not play a zone defence against a side that knows how to use the ball. Like Hawthorn, they will pick their way through and the back three keep kicking across the ground to keep your zone moving until they find a break.

It is just getting embarrassing now. I'm not a coaches AH, but I really don't understand why we are continuing with the same game plan when it clearly does not work to our advantage.

The zoning off is bizarre. I don't know what it achieves. Most times it's just leapfrog passes in between our players all the way down the ground.

We just concede F50 entries from each time they get the ball. Then it's bloody hard work to get it back down our end because we are so bad at moving the ball.

So if you're the coach and know we're terrible at ball movement why would you concede territory every time they get the ball?
 

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Ok, deep breath, while that was clearly another incredibly frustrating result in a month of frustrating results (and against an opposition where in the last 8 games we have managed 1 win but 5 losses inside 1 goal) there was some hints of progress.

Really liking the way Carroll is developing on the wing, 6 goals 5 out of McGovern, Kemp and McKay seems to show the forward line is finding its feet (just not with the ball drop), Ainsworth is starting to settle in 13 marks inside 50 is an indication of us starting to take the better option with the final kick in and once again for a long period of the game we were able to keep the opposition to a very ow score.

And while the first 5 minutes after 3/4 time were incredibly frustrating (not helped by the umpires somehow missing Haynes being held on the goal line, Dean being ushed in the back and McKay getting an elbow to the face while also penalising Walsh for holding the ball after being immediately set upon with no prior as once again the umpires started gong with the momentum) it was a positive to see that we were able to shut down the pies chip and waste time strategy and get the game back on ours terms to create legitimate opportunities to win the game - for the first time for the year I felt like if the game went just a little longer we could have won rather than we could have lost be another few goals.

So while it was yet another wasted opportunity (and a disgraceful display of set shot goal kicking) and yet again our season is over before Anzac day - I do think there can be something salvaged from the season
 
Tim Clarke - midfield stoppages and structure coach. If he wasn't successful the first time around, why did we get him back. I feel like the Club is the equivalent of a lost dogs' home for assistants and coaches.

We only ever get failed coaches and administrators from moderately successful or failing clubs. Tim Clarke, Leigh Addams and Michael Voss are very lucky Carlton exists.
 
why isn't it appropriate (serious question)?

Because the Black Dog or his cousin might be in play?
Because we don't know and the speculation could be damaging to him and others. The important discussion is about whether the club failed its duty of care. The cause is a matter for the club, AFL and AFLPA to handle sensitively. Let's hold them accountable for doing it properly.
 
Gotta love how many people are suddenly forensic experts on being able to judge someone is on gear from a distance.
Probably basing it on his past behaviours.
If what looks to have happen has happened, this club is sicker than we all anticipated.

I feel and hope Lilj is okay and supported. However this would be a gross failure from the club and just further scream crisis, low standards and incompetence.

We need to hope there is another sensible explanation because otherwise we are in a worse state than we all anticipated
I blame the club for giving him too many chances. Should have cut him loose, plenty of other players that would have loved the opportunity
 
Tim Clarke - midfield stoppages and structure coach. If he wasn't successful the first time around, why did we get him back. I feel like the Club is the equivalent of a lost dogs' home for assistants and coaches.
Most lost dogs get adopted in the end.

For those that don't though....
 

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I thought the umpire I50 might have been on the southern side and not able to see the hold, but no he was in the forward pocket on the northern side 20m away.

Not only was Elliot holding him he actually pulled Haynes forward.
TBH I didnt mind the umpriing last night because there were fewer umpire involvement
 
I think some fans and media forget that they were saying that we would better if we only had one of Harry or Charlie over the past couple of years..........



The same people get mad that we are losing
Charlie has done Jack shit this year and sydney sit on top.
 
So many times we had players open for the long pass, and we either don’t see them, or wait until they are covered, and then go down the line….

Then going forward, we have players unmarked running into space in our f50, and our forwards and mids don’t identify the free player, but lead their opponents to cover them.

It is mindbogglingly ridiculous.

And then add the skill levels equivalent to a bunch of aliens who have never touched a football before.
 
Loved the aggressive ball movement. Must have been the most goals we have kicked from the back half in ages
Forwards played well just conversion ended up costing us. Need to stick with the fast ball movement. Winning games is no longer important this year. Learning to play modern footy is the goal.

All of the last quarter losses have come from us losing clearances in a game where we dominated for 3 quarters. Pitto had a good game for 3 quarters and then we couldn't win a clearance.

Does Walsh get less time than everyone else in the comp to get rid of it at a centre clearance. Getting ridiculous.

The amount of times a Carlton player comes in 2nd up and spoils /takes out a team mate is doing my head in. Looking at you Florent and Cow (Kemp in previous games)

After all his hammy issues Cerra should have come back through the VFL like Saad.

Great post and I agree was pretty much everything you’ve said here. A lot of people on here say we (Voss coached sides) are a one trick pony side only capable of scoring from clearances yet last night we scored heavily from transition. That said Voss’ selections make no sense and he deserves heavy criticism.

Also this repeat nonsense about the game plan being too taxing is just doing my head in. The game is taxing. Every side should looked exhausted during games. Collingwood looked gassed at various stages last night. Our skills are so bad however that we make the easy look difficult. Our low IQ, low skill play
 

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