2026 Trade / FA Thread

[Scodog10]

LOL ruining…
I’m sorry you’re so precious that this great club can do no wrong in you eyes

It’s a football club forum to discuss matters at the club —whether they are good or bad

If you don’t like what you see or read you can piss off and go play marbles

I find it interesting that despite not being quoted you assumed he was referring to you

Probably says a bit if you’re conscious of how your behaving…

 

[gouki88]

My literacy?
See I don’t care of this stupid shit you bring up that has no relevance to what this forum is about. Play the ball and not the man so to speak.
It’s a fan forum to discuss all things Collingwood—whether you agree with it or not

All you have done is come on here and basically try and tell everyone why they are wrong …and tell them they’re negative because they have a different view point to you despite them presenting facts and stats and not just giving flippant opinions about it
You’ll then further discredit it as meltdowns because you don’t agree

And because of that they’re now ruining threads because you don’t like their views or don’t agree

I’m sorry but you’re not right every single time because you think you are”positive”

The club has made mistakes on various issues covered recently that cannot be excused for.

It has of course done some things that are great too

I think we could have and should have done more in certain areas that have left us exposed.

Ah yes, playing the ball like "you're so precious the club can do no wrong in your eyes".

Of course I tell the people I disagree with I think they're wrong - that's a fundamental aspect of this "forum to discuss all things Collingwood".

You have been thrashing about because of some kind of perceived refusal from Fly to play kids, even though he is and you just refuse to accept it. I don't care about people being bummed out by how the season is going, that's pretty normal when we are a chance to miss finals. But to stare reality in the face and go "nah, that's not actually happening" is annoying. You shouldn't be so shocked it's called out for what it is.

 

[HFF]

I find it interesting that despite not being quoted you assumed he was referring to you

Probably says a bit if you’re conscious of how your behaving…

Why would it be interesting when we have been going back and forth over it for a few days now?
It’s not hard to understand who it was meant at based on the above
Im sure he won’t deny who it was pointed at if asked even if it may have included a few more than just me.

Probably says more than me just being conscious of it when it’s true
It is what it is

 

[Scodog10]

Why would it be interesting when we have been going back and forth over it for a few days now?
It’s not hard to understand who it was meant at based on the above
Im sure he won’t deny who it was pointed at if asked even if it may have included a few more than just me.

Probably says more than me just being conscious of it when it’s true
It is what it is

For the reason I suggested that it offers an insight into your understanding that you’re being a downer. We’re all in control of our own actions and you’re leaning into it so I guess as you suggested it is what it is.

 

[sr36]

lol meltdown
It’s amazing what living in fantasy can do for your perspective

The fantasists are those who expect us to land every recruit, nail every draft pick and always be up the top of the ladder because we're Collingwood.

These fantasists seem to think that being mid table with less young talent than most teams is a disaster caused by incompetence. The realists understand that it hasn't been a **** up - it's the natural product of being regularly in contention in a system where the brightest talent goes to the bottom teams.

The fantasistes seem to think that a couple of mid/late teens picks rather than a couple of senior players would have us in a much stronger position.

I like what we're doing. The only realistic way of us being a good team in the medium or short term is topping up. Fair chance it doesn't work - but thinking we'd stay up through taking worse picks than other teams to the draft would have been a strategy far less likely to succeed.

 

[jimmy35]

Talk of Neale building. I assume it’s just paper talk, or clickbait, as commonly called to you young hipsters. But it is strangely building so is there truth, he’s an age but a clearance beast, just journos keeping things clicking along or wishful thinking.
The man wins footy clearances in his sleep so that’s a good thing.

 

[HFF]

Ah yes, playing the ball like "you're so precious the club can do no wrong in your eyes".

Of course I tell the people I disagree with I think they're wrong - that's a fundamental aspect of this "forum to discuss all things Collingwood".

You have been thrashing about because of some kind of perceived refusal from Fly to play kids, even though he is and you just refuse to accept it. I don't care about people being bummed out by how the season is going, that's pretty normal when we are a chance to miss finals. But to stare reality in the face and go "nah, that's not actually happening" is annoying. You shouldn't be so shocked it's called out for what it is.

I’m cool with you disagreeing with it.
I don’t have an issue with differing viewpoints

I do believe there has been a refusal for some time to play more kids more regularly than we have
I think there’s evidence to suggest that when you look across the competition

You calling it out like it isn’t true is head in the sand stuff.

Is there reasons as to why ?
Sure I can accept some
But when I look across a team like the lions they seem to be playing later picks in their team more often and earlier than we do too
And Im not talking just Ashcrofts or top 5 picks.

The coach has been “players over picks” mantra for some time and i think it has furled that mantra as to why we continue to opt for experience when i think there’s opportunities there to perhaps play a few
Younger prospects more regularly and earlier than we do here.

Are they all “ready”?
No of course not

However, they seem to be disqualified here at our club a lot more than the equivalents at other clubs

I think we could substitute a few older types to younger ones and we would not even lose out or be worse off where we are currently.

 

[HFF]

For the reason I suggested that it offers an insight into your understanding that you’re being a downer. We’re all in control of our own actions and you’re leaning into it so I guess as you suggested it is what it is.

So being a “downer” now disqualifies you because it’s not a positive viewpoint?
As I said it is what it is ..I don’t care whether it’s negative or positive
The reality is what matters
So it is what it is

 

[HFF]

The fantasists are those who expect us to land every recruit, nail every draft pick and always be up the top of the ladder because we're Collingwood.

These fantasists seem to think that being mid table with less young talent than most teams is a disaster caused by incompetence. The realists understand that it hasn't been a **** up - it's the natural product of being regularly in contention in a system where the brightest talent goes to the bottom teams.

The fantasistes seem to think that a couple of mid/late teens picks rather than a couple of senior players would have us in a much stronger position.

I like what we're doing. The only realistic way of us being a good team in the medium or short term is topping up. Fair chance it doesn't work - but thinking we'd stay up through taking worse picks than other teams to the draft would have been a strategy far less likely to succeed.

I agree with points you make
Im not torch the joint and start again.
I don’t think or expect us to land everyone because we are Collingwood.

Tbe issue is we could easily substitute a few experienced heads by now with younger types and we wouldn’t even see a difference in terms of getting any worse than what it is.
Because as it stands we are teetering into no man’s land. That’s where we differ..I think there’s another realistic way we could have gone about it by now as mentioned above and still be “competitive” because there’s a difference being competitive and a difference having a flag tilt
We aren’t having a flag tilt either way so what do we lose?

 

[nickyds35]

Can you please just stop. Your weird expectation that we should (or can) simply get anyone we want or who would be a good fit doesn’t actually fit the reality of player movement. Nothing scattergun about us

Not anyone we want, someone we want/need.

 

[footballsack35]

Is Archer Reid from West Coast worth looking at?

Young, Tall forward ruck stuck behind a few?

If Bobby is heading West for peanuts, maybe this our best chance of getting something worthwhile in return?

Could be interesting considering Coe is only on a 6 month contract. He could possibly come in and help DC with some ruck work while Steene is rehabilitating if Coe doesn't get offered a contract. Just a thought.

 

[BillyElliott]

This thread

 

[footballsack35]

People just want to read about FA. Wtf is happening to this thread?

 

[Scodog10]

So being a “downer” now disqualifies you because it’s not a positive viewpoint?
As I said it is what it is ..I don’t care whether it’s negative or positive
The reality is what matters
So it is what it is

What part of my two posts has suggested you acknowledging your POV disqualifies you from having it? Stop imagining slights and getting triggered because your views are being challenged from different angles…

 

[frizzle]

Any chance the thread can stay on track?

 

[gouki88]

Not anyone we want, someone we want/need.

Like all those players we have added recently? Did we not want them?

 

[I See Sooky People]

I agree with points you make
Im not torch the joint and start again.
I don’t think or expect us to land everyone because we are Collingwood.

Tbe issue is we could easily substitute a few experienced heads by now with younger types and we wouldn’t even see a difference in terms of getting any worse than what it is.
Because as it stands we are teetering into no man’s land. That’s where we differ..I think there’s another realistic way we could have gone about it by now as mentioned above and still be “competitive” because there’s a difference being competitive and a difference having a flag tilt
We aren’t having a flag tilt either way so what do we lose?

None of that was what people took exception to. People took exception to your claim that we "are getting nobody" because they "will look in from the outside" and see that we are nothing. You were asked to justify that and instead of providing any evidence you completely pivoted and now claim "I was merely saying we took some missteps". No you didn't. If you had said that everyone would have agreed.

 

[cfc19902010]

Talk of Neale building. I assume it’s just paper talk, or clickbait, as commonly called to you young hipsters. But it is strangely building so is there truth, he’s an age but a clearance beast, just journos keeping things clicking along or wishful thinking.
The man wins footy clearances in his sleep so that’s a good thing.

Not sure about Lachie
Great player .. exactly what we need in the middle
But
Age
Cost ?

Interesting time ahead if he wants to come

 

[Apex36]

Long term plan vs scattergun approach.

Hawks will likely add Merrett and Humphrey after getting both Barrass and Battle 2 years ago.


Meanwhile we have struggled to find 1 decent mid to support Nick for the last 5 years.

lol and how may I ask will they find the trade capital for both Merrett and Humphrey?

They might get one or the other, not both.

 

[Gilbert_Grape]

Like all those players we have added recently? Did we not want them?

Yep. For AFL debuts over the Fly years we rank 11th.

No surprises -
Full rebuilders debut the most.
Contenders debut the least.

For new recruits (club change) over that time we're behind only Port, WCE and Carlt. Combined Coll is 8th on list turnover. Volume is not an issue.

 

[HFF]

None of that was what people took exception to. People took exception to your claim that we "are getting nobody" because they "will look in from the outside" and see that we are nothing. You were asked to justify that and instead of providing any evidence you completely pivoted and now claim "I was merely saying we took some missteps". No you didn't. If you had said that everyone would have agreed.

We aren’t going to land those big names because we aren’t attractive though from the outside looking in

King is staying because suns are better placed than us

Butters will choose dogs because again they are stacked better than us

Humprhies won’t choose us because of all the destinations he is linked to, we are the least attractive as a project.

All of this is fairly accurate and true and is playing out this way.

They’re not just going to overlook all that because we are Collingwood.

Walter is young so we could land someone like him and grow with him but the ready made superstars like above King or Butters aren’t going to entertain us with the current plight of our list

 

[HFF]

lol and how may I ask will they find the trade capital for both Merrett and Humphrey?

They might get one or the other, not both.

I think they’re happy to let Merrett go if they will land Humphrey …don’t you think?

 

[Ugene41]

I’m cool with you disagreeing with it.
I don’t have an issue with differing viewpoints

I do believe there has been a refusal for some time to play more kids more regularly than we have
I think there’s evidence to suggest that when you look across the competition

You calling it out like it isn’t true is head in the sand stuff.

Is there reasons as to why ?
Sure I can accept some
But when I look across a team like the lions they seem to be playing later picks in their team more often and earlier than we do too
And Im not talking just Ashcrofts or top 5 picks.

The coach has been “players over picks” mantra for some time and i think it has furled that mantra as to why we continue to opt for experience when i think there’s opportunities there to perhaps play a few
Younger prospects more regularly and earlier than we do here.

Are they all “ready”?
No of course not

However, they seem to be disqualified here at our club a lot more than the equivalents at other clubs

I think we could substitute a few older types to younger ones and we would not even lose out or be worse off where we are currently.

That might have been the case last year when we were top of the ladder and right in it at the pointy end with prelim loss.

But it was clear we took a new direction last offseason moving on a lot of our older guys in WHE, Mitchell, Mihocek, Cox, Markov etc. and this year, we've definitely been exposing the kids. I think we're doing it well this year having unearthed Steene, Anderson, Hayes and with Allan improving whilst still remaining extremely competitive. The only complaint might be Long still being in the side, but technically he's classified as part of our young generation at only 23.

 

[MooreDaicos]

There always has to be people who have to go down this path as you did calling you negative when you try and just be realistic

I don’t get it

Which part of what I said isn’t true?

I’m sorry it hurts your feelings

But maybe try and tell me why we can attract these players rather than trying to play this Nancy card calling me negative because you don’t like what you’re reading or hearing

You haven't hurt my feelings it's about this statement, We aren’t going to land anyone of note and we aren’t attractive when you look at it from the outside in and Nobody is taking us seriously.
Those are negative thoughts running through your mind, your glass is half empty where as mine is half full.
Not every gun wants to come to us, it's been said quite a few times. Not all guns want the pressure and expectations of a big club. Then you have social media and how vicious they can be. For example, Lynch is a great fwd, so is Cameron but they may struggle with that extra limelight that comes with our club and want to stay away from being harassed on their social media pages. Not everyone likes the limelight that is here at Pie Land.
Butters would thrive here but has he really made his mind up? Has he publicly said he's going to the Dogs or the Cats? If that answer is no, then there's always a chance and I believe in hope, not negative thoughts because I don't listen to the noise, I focus on the possible, even though he's a Doggies supporter. The question is, does he want to live in the country, play for his beloved team that he barracks for or does he want to play with Nick in the biggest club in town?
You need to take that into consideration when these guns move clubs.
Then you have the obvious, we might not have the capital, we might be a club that's not liked by them, they may dislike certain players, we may have different targets in mind because let's face it, they are going to cost the earth and if the club thinks there's a diamond in the rough, then they may go that way and fill more than one hole.
It's all about what's best for the club.

 

[Ugene41]

Long term plan vs scattergun approach.

Hawks will likely add Merrett and Humphrey after getting both Barrass and Battle 2 years ago.


Meanwhile we have struggled to find 1 decent mid to support Nick for the last 5 years.

We got Houston and Perryman 2 years ago?

And how did Hawks go getting Merrett last year? Assuming they will just "add" Merrett and Humphrey this year is the same as assuming we'll just "add" Neale and Walters this year based on media speculation to date.

In fact, we're probably more likely to add Neale given he's a UFA than Hawks are to add Merrett.