DarwinRoo
Brownlow Medallist
So Goldy just went through the motions for 2018?
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Questionable. Even if Saunders wasn't there as much as he should have been (something that was agreed upon with the club given his other ventures), he provided money for the club and a low injury record. Goldy also took a handsome salary but didn't didn't do much in return other than go through the motions.I will say this, Goldy did more for our club than Saunders ever did.
Can discuss facts if required
Unsurprising that the poster often referred to as 'mrs goldstein' is in here making ridiculous claims.It must have been Saunders taking that mark against Geelong in that final.
Here I was thinking it was Goldy.
Damn that blasted health professional. Why couldn't he cure soft tissue injuries for good!Garner? You mean the player that’s played 9 games in two years. Good luck trying to find me incessantly bagging him. Maybe go through the 2018 game day threads to find an example.
Interesting that you mention him though considering how little he played when Saunders was at the club.
I could say the same about you. 12 years of ad hominem attacks. Same white knighting over and over and over.Imagine joining up to a footy forum to blow smoke up a physio’s arse.
Don’t you have better things to do on your weekend Dave?
I could say the same about you. 12 years of ad hominem attacks. Same white knighting over and over and over.
I don't have one. Are you suggesting once upon a time you were a pleasant poster...You’ve only been a member for 2 years, so what’s your other profile name?
I don't have one. Are you suggesting once upon a time you were a pleasant poster...
Highly unlikely!
I think you have a point re 'by club' and overall league, but to diminish Goldstein's output by rubbishing others is somewhat self-defeating. All you've done is to reinforce that he's a top 3 ruckman which you acknowledge is a tough position. Your argument seems to be that if he's not number 1, he's somehow under-performing. I think you've been hooked into arguing for argument's sake.Position - hardly a shining light. Gawn has been the standout by a long way. Grundy closing. Goldstein consistent but not a patch on either in recent years. Nakervis and Jacobs dropped off. McEvoy is consistent but basically a poorer Goldstein. Martin, Witts, and Ryder have their moments. Ruck is a tough position and part of the reason why Geelong was more than happy to throw 4 years in front of Goldstein.
I think you're better off leaving it here.But hey. I hopefully he bucks the trend and proves LtK right in his remaining years at North. A good Goldy is great for us all.
I wanted to leave it there but of course some posters get mighty defensive if you say the slightest negative thing about a North player.I think you have a point re 'by club' and overall league, but to diminish Goldstein's output by rubbishing others is somewhat self-defeating. All you've done is to reinforce that he's a top 3 ruckman which you acknowledge is a tough position. Your argument seems to be that if he's not number 1, he's somehow under-performing. I think you've been hooked into arguing for argument's sake.
I think you're better off leaving it here.
True dat.I wanted to leave it there but of course some posters get mighty defensive if you say the slightest negative thing about a North player.
'Theory' being the operative word. Clearly, there is evidence either way and I can see both sides. He went through some relationship issues (self-inflicted or otherwise) and associated mental health challenges that affected his form in his 'non-contract' years. IF he 'extracted the digit' at the back end of his contract to get a better deal, like you, I don't necessarily have a problem with the motivation. That said, like you, I'd like to see Todd perform even better over the next few years - that is, at the top of his game more often - because when he's on, he's brilliant.My argument was posting yearly averages in no way shape or form dispels the theory that Goldstein extracts a digit when it's contract time. That's all.
Well the proof will be in the pudding.I wanted to leave it there but of course some posters get mighty defensive if you say the slightest negative thing about a North player.
My argument was posting yearly averages in no way shape or form dispels the theory that Goldstein extracts a digit when it's contract time. That's all.
Well said. Couldn't agree more.Well the proof will be in the pudding.
If Goldie comes out next year 'playing within himself' - rather than extracting the digit like he did in the PA game - then we will all be very clear about his motivations.
If he comes out hard on a week in week out basis and shows he wants to regain his mantle as the equal of the best rucks in the game then we can all put to rest the 'Goldie only plays well in his contract year' talk.
Right now I am not sure which way it goes but I am looking forward to seeing how Goldie performs next year - playing within himself he is still a valuable player - extracting the digit like the PA game shows he can be a weapon to ensure we play deep into finals next year.
I think that would have eaten into Cunnington's influence in the centre as well as throw ins .I honestly don’t think we would lose much by having Campbell in over goldy
Would like Campbell to play preseason games instead of goldy to test this
End of the day if the choice was cave and give him 3 years instead of 2 or let him go I would have let him go and taken the compo
Well the proof will be in the pudding.
If Goldie comes out next year 'playing within himself' - rather than extracting the digit like he did in the PA game - then we will all be very clear about his motivations.
If he comes out hard on a week in week out basis and shows he wants to regain his mantle as the equal of the best rucks in the game then we can all put to rest the 'Goldie only plays well in his contract year' talk.
Right now I am not sure which way it goes but I am looking forward to seeing how Goldie performs next year - playing within himself he is still a valuable player - extracting the digit like the PA game shows he can be a weapon to ensure we play deep into finals next year.
As they say on reddit, remindmeinsixmonthsWell the proof will be in the pudding.
If Goldie comes out next year 'playing within himself' - rather than extracting the digit like he did in the PA game - then we will all be very clear about his motivations.
He's a bloody good footballer. Bizarre that anyone would want him to leave.Rapt he stayed. 3rd in the BnF. Not far off his career best form. Reckon he’s got a fair bit left in the tank too