30 overs a side?

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I don't know if this has already been discussed anywhere, but I'd like to see a 30 overs a side format trialled. To me 50 over matches are dying, with the middle overs pretty much a yawnfest, and T20 is too 'hits and giggles' as some like to put it. 30 overs seems like a good balance to me to replace either format. Not too long for our shrinking attention spans, but long enough to allow for genuine technical and aggressive stroke play. Bowlers would be allowed max 6 overs each. I'd love to see something trialled, if it hasn't already been.
Are you happy with the current formats, or would you like to see a balanced format between the shorter versions?

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

What's the point if reducing the 50 over format? All it will do is bring it closer to T20. If the longer limited overs game is to become the same as the shorter limited game, won't that just hasten the demise of one?

The changes I would make to the 50 over game:
- play less of them (and do not increase T20Is)
- revert to the old domestic rules of 2 outside the circle for 15 overs (this part used to be in place internationally), 3 outside for the next 15, and get rid of powerplays; maybe add having 4 outside the circle for the next 15, and five outside for the final five overs.
- how did the split-innings go domestically? I hated the idea when it was first announced, but can see some benefots as both team would bat in natural light and artificial light for half their innings each. Apparently it didn;t work, but was it as bad as all that, or just too big a change? I think it could be worth looking at again after the WC.

In the end though, if the 50 o ver game does diappear I'm not too fussed. One two-innings form and one limited overs form is probably enough. And if the limited form is 20 overs, so be it; the limited overs games only exist to help fund the true form.

 

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If the longer limited overs game is to become the same as the shorter limited game, won't that just hasten the demise of one?

This is kind of what I'm saying. Do we need both shorter versions? To me they both have some problems. Would a happy medium be viable? Or are these just ramblings of a madman?

Will probably never happen, but personally I think I'd enjoy 30 overs more than the current two formats.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

This is kind of what I'm saying. Do we need both shorter versions? To me they both have some problems. Would a happy medium be viable? Or are these just ramblings of a madman?

Will probably never happen, but personally I think I'd enjoy 30 overs more than the current two formats.

Ah, sorry I misunderstood. I thought you were saying a 30 and a 20 over game, which would defeat the purpose of any difference.

20 overs works well for TV. The whole match fits into prime time, at least in the time zone the game is played in, without going too late. 30 overs would either need to start while people are at work, or go very late into the evening.
If only one survives, I doubt it would be by extending the 20 over game.

 

[Black Diamond]

50 over cricket provides momentum swings and twist and turns that T20 just can't. It is still my preferred format of limited overs cricket, and a 30 over match would only erode what makes 50 over cricket good.

 

[Hellgood]

Theres nothing wrong with the game of 50 over cricket.

The problems come from the scheduling and the way administrators/selectors view it as low priority.

 

[Tiff]

50 over cricket provides momentum swings and twist and turns that T20 just can't. It is still my preferred format of limited overs cricket, and a 30 over match would only erode what makes 50 over cricket good.

Good point and I agree, but purely for discussion sake I can see where he's coming from.

It's obvious there's only room for two versions of the game, and it looks like 50 over cricket might be the one to fall by the wayside.

30 overs is a nice middle ground, giving both sides of the fence a happy medium. Its obvious that true cricket fans find T20 too short to provide any interest, and that 50 overs is too long for the younger/less educated crowd.

I'm fairly saddened by the decline of 50 over cricket, but I'd be happy if the compromise was made where we had 30 a thirty overs game, and Test Cricket only.

 

[Tiff]

Theres nothing wrong with the game of 50 over cricket.

The problems come from the scheduling and the way administrators/selectors view it as low priority.

This is another good point.

There's too much cricket. Playing less ODI's will make them seem more special again, a rare treat.

 

[Hellgood]

This is another good point.

There's too much cricket. Playing less ODI's will make them seem more special again, a rare treat.

Have a look at the scheduling for the West indies ODI series coming up, two games in Perth in three days, same format, same teams - are they deliberately trying to kill it off or what? I know they are pretty obsessive with saving money and won't have to fork out on a second flight to Perth, but geez you don't need to be a genius to figure that the crowds are going to be split - who would go to both?

 

[Tiff]

Have a look at the scheduling for the West indies ODI series coming up, two games in Perth in three days, same format, same teams - are they deliberately trying to kill it off or what? I know they are pretty obsessive with saving money and won't have to fork out on a second flight to Perth, but geez you don't need to be a genius to figure that the crowds are going to be split - who would go to both?

Yeah I know. Its insane.

Ten years ago you had people camping out at ticket outlets to get tickets to a WACA ODI.

Although, I will say that attendances at the WACA test matches have definitely picked up in recent years. Even when the monstrous Australians were around the crowds were awful.

Though that may have more to do with the fact they're starting on Friday.

 

[fumbler]

Two lots of 20 over innings, so team a bats for 20 them team b bats for 20 then do it again,

 

[R00StaR]

Perhaps ODIs are less popular than they were but i quite like how we have things set up atm. I dont go to as much cricket as i used to, i cant afford to watch every ball on TV like i used to either but i still enjoy ODIs just as much. The format of international cricket being more focused on Tests and ODIs with a couple of T20s and the main T20 comp being more domestic with some internationals is fine for me. Recent rule changes to how many outfielders a team can have is a positive, far more reward for aggressive batting in those middle overs. So yeah when we're talking the best of the best (international) i prefer 50 overs as the main short format.

 

[Lensen]

I don't think enough credit is paid to the removal of heavy beer and over officiousness of the fun police as to reasons ODI crowds have declined so markedly

Half the fun was in the crowd and there is so little to do now to keep interest during the dull middle overs that people don't bother

Yeah you can say it attracts the wrong types etc but it gave atmosphere and meant it was an enjoyable day out rather thanhalf the game + being fairly pedestrian

 

[ioppolo]

How about just 3 game series against SL & the Windies? And scrapping 7 game series and seriously cutting the amount of 5 game series.

 

[Pee Tear Griffin]

Yeah, nah.

Jesus you wonder sometimes if people here actually like cricket.

 

[MowShow]

I would be interested to see a T20 style match with 2 innings per side.

 

[Black Diamond]

Why bother with the cricket? How about a coin toss, some fireworks, a quick set from Good Charlotte and a mexican wave?

 

[MG MG]

Nothing wrong with ODIs (50 overs)

I reckon that is great. At least you have time to make a decent century.

 

[BACCS]

50 over cricket provides momentum swings and twist and turns that T20 just can't. It is still my preferred format of limited overs cricket, and a 30 over match would only erode what makes 50 over cricket good.

You clearly haven't watched enough T20 then, it can provide plenty of momentum swings and twists.

 

[MG MG]

You clearly haven't watched enough T20 then, it can provide plenty of momentum swings and twists.

I don't agree.

Although International matches don't do it as much, if you watch the Big Bash, the amount of just STUPID shots they play is not entertaining at all. Sometimes it's almost as if they are trying to give their wicket away. Ramping onto the stumps for example. Show me some proper shots please, at least you get that in ODIs.

 

[Black Diamond]

You clearly haven't watched enough T20 then, it can provide plenty of momentum swings and twists.

You're right. It's been a while since I watched it because I found it so boring.

 

[fumbler]

I don't agree.

Although International matches don't do it as much, if you watch the Big Bash, the amount of just STUPID shots they play is not entertaining at all. Sometimes it's almost as if they are trying to give their wicket away. Ramping onto the stumps for example. Show me some proper shots please, at least you get that in ODIs.

Don't argue with BACCS, MGx2 he borrows encyclopaedias from the local library.

Hey BACCS you still in the SFA?

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Yeah, nah.

Jesus you wonder sometimes if people here actually like cricket.

They probably like it, they just don't understand it.

 

[Tiff]

I don't think enough credit is paid to the removal of heavy beer and over officiousness of the fun police as to reasons ODI crowds have declined so markedly

Half the fun was in the crowd and there is so little to do now to keep interest during the dull middle overs that people don't bother

Yeah you can say it attracts the wrong types etc but it gave atmosphere and meant it was an enjoyable day out rather thanhalf the game + being fairly pedestrian

Double edged sword. Everyone whines that "bogans" are ruining the cricket. Yet whinge even more when the very reason there's so much atmosphere, doesn't turn up.

 

[OrdinaryJoel]

I don't agree.

Although International matches don't do it as much, if you watch the Big Bash, the amount of just STUPID shots they play is not entertaining at all. Sometimes it's almost as if they are trying to give their wicket away. Ramping onto the stumps for example. Show me some proper shots please, at least you get that in ODIs.

Agree with this 100%.