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Player Watch #30: Reece Conca

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JAKLAUGHING said:
Ahhh Reecey the nay sayers all hates ya...but I think you will prove them all collectively wrong this year...
Jeez I hope your hammy's have regenerated!
Get on ya bike reecey!
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Just interested but other than wishful thinking what else gives you any confidence that this might occur? What role do you think he is best suited to play?
 
PetterdHoisted said:
He can play, would have been a fair 2nd round pick (not knowing about his hammies), Emma Quayle was spot on at the time, rated him mid-20s, with 'safe', 'solid', 'neat' the keywords. Only his attitude was rated with a superlative. FJ may have been instructed to play safe, if not, poor call at 6.

'23. REECE CONCA
(Perth, 18, 185cm, 79kg)
Add him to the list of solid, safe midfield bets. Goes after the ball when it's his turn, uses it well and can play in all parts of the ground. Keeps running, and plays with some burst. Perhaps doesn't have the polish of some of the other onballers, but is neat and a safe mark. Impressive attitude helps push him up the order.'
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And yet his attitude to rehab and working out are constantly questioned on here.. :rolleyes::p
 
TheProwler said:
Just interested but other than wishful thinking what else gives you any confidence that this might occur? What role do you think he is best suited to play?
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I would suggest 'wishful thinking' of the same variety that demands Ben Griffiths will have a breakout year this year, Shane Edwards will become elite and Corey Ellis will become Bontempelli.
 

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TheProwler said:
Just interested but other than wishful thinking what else gives you any confidence that this might occur? What role do you think he is best suited to play?
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It's obvious Prowker bc when Reece was flying in his stellar years between 2012-13 he finished 17 th at best in the JDM. We all have something to look forward to.
 
Goldust said:
You don't think people's attitudes can change - for better or worse - given time?
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Of course they can! Thats a given. Everyday workers go through it. So i expect all players (especially in rehab) go through it. It could also just be his body cant handle the rigiours of afl long term, theres more than a few in that boat!

Theres nothing quoted anywhere about his supposed lack of commitment. Just what people say on here.

Its just surprising that someone who is well regarded with drafts said that about him. Ive never read it anywhere. Just the "he interviewed really well" i think from FJ.
 
Sir_Loin said:
Oh yeah. Well that's simply not true. He didn't even make it into the top 10 in our B&F that year. So not sure how you pull "he was one of our best, most consistent players". Just a myth people like you continue to perpetuate.
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He was only drafted in 2011 so it makes him what, 19 or 20 in 2012. You expect a top ten finish and are judging him accordingly. Conca in 2012 was going fine, good player with a bright future. Like most here I'm not anything more than hopeful that he finds that form again, and better considering he is four years older, but how people can say he wasn't a good player back then. Seems to me some on this board would rather him to fail so their prophecy will come true and they can be just a little more knowing than the reset of us.
 
Grrr said:
He was only drafted in 2011 so it makes him what, 19 or 20 in 2012. You expect a top ten finish and are judging him accordingly. Conca in 2012 was going fine, good player with a bright future. Like most here I'm not anything more than hopeful that he finds that form again, and better considering he is four years older, but how people can say he wasn't a good player back then. Seems to me some on this board would rather him to fail so their prophecy will come true and they can be just a little more knowing than the reset of us.
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Complete rubbish. A fact based discussion continues to get pulled down in "you want him to fail" nonsense.

No one wants him to fail. I judge him on his body of work delivered to date. That's it.
 
Sir_Loin said:
Complete rubbish. A fact based discussion continues to get pulled down in "you want him to fail" nonsense.

No one wants him to fail. I judge him on his body of work delivered to date. That's it.
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No one wants him to fail! Half this thread is made up of people pulling Conca down for all and sundry. Some people seem to relish this sort of attack. Pre 2012 there was no complaints about Conca. Not everyone was singing his tune, but the consensus was that he was going okay, not the greatest No.6 ever, but not the worst. But to say the it is 'complete rubbish' that some people on here have really turned on him is not true.
 

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From all reports plus photo's I've seen of Reece he seems to be in good shape at the moment.
It looks like he has lowered his body fat percentage by quite a bit, which has always been a big knock of his.
Hopefully his hamstrings can hold up as we need as much depth as possible and he can certainly do a job when he plays.
With Caddy and Prestia coming in to the midfield, I can't see him being best 22 but you just never know.
 
Grrr said:
He was only drafted in 2011 so it makes him what, 19 or 20 in 2012. You expect a top ten finish and are judging him accordingly. Conca in 2012 was going fine, good player with a bright future. Like most here I'm not anything more than hopeful that he finds that form again, and better considering he is four years older, but how people can say he wasn't a good player back then. Seems to me some on this board would rather him to fail so their prophecy will come true and they can be just a little more knowing than the reset of us.
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That's nonsense. No one wants him to fail. We ALL want every player we draft or recruit to become a star and wish them all the best. No one wants any Richmond player to fail. But sadly this Richmond player has failed on most levels.
It's incredible that a player who shown nothing more than rare glimpses and has an obvious injury history gets signed for two more years. What if we get two more years of rubbish and injuries> We just make dumb, dumb decisions.
We all want him to succeed, sadly in the cut-throat environment that is the AFL all the evidence points to Conca being mediocre no matter how you dress it up.
 
Goldust said:
That's nonsense. No one wants him to fail. We ALL want every player we draft or recruit to become a star and wish them all the best. No one wants any Richmond player to fail. But sadly this Richmond player has failed on most levels.
It's incredible that a player who shown nothing more than rare glimpses and has an obvious injury history gets signed for two more years. What if we get two more years of rubbish and injuries> We just make dumb, dumb decisions.
We all want him to succeed, sadly in the cut-throat environment that is the AFL all the evidence points to Conca being mediocre no matter how you dress it up.
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I haven't dressed him up. Like some here we saw signs early and since he's been ruined by injury. The guy completed his first preseason last year to pull a hammy a week before the first practice match. Another season ruined. Agree signing him for two years was a bit of a shock.
I argue the rare glimpses. I liked him a lot as a young footballer, but read back and there's a lot of disrespect shown to one of our own, hardly the wishing him the best.
 
Mention of Conca being a B or B+ grade player is pretty ambitious.

Pre hammy he was on his way to becoming a B grader (wasnt there yet) but post injuries I cant even give him a rating, not sure how anyone can.
 
Morro said:
Mention of Conca being a B or B+ grade player is pretty ambitious.

Pre hammy he was on his way to becoming a B grader (wasnt there yet) but post injuries I cant even give him a rating, not sure how anyone can.
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My thoughts as well...I liked his 2013. Unfortunately that was 3 years ago.

Hope this doesn't turn into a Chris Kights situation.
 

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Goldust said:
Already has ... but didn't stop us giving him a two year contract!
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This is the main concern for me, its not Concas fault where he was picked, that's down to our recruiters.
Some players succeed some fail that happens at every club but why in hell do we give them so much time to try and prove themselves, it's the same as with Dimma, why didnt we just give them a year with an option to extend another year if they are meeting expectations?
 
Grrr said:
No one wants him to fail! Half this thread is made up of people pulling Conca down for all and sundry. Some people seem to relish this sort of attack. Pre 2012 there was no complaints about Conca. Not everyone was singing his tune, but the consensus was that he was going okay, not the greatest No.6 ever, but not the worst. But to say the it is 'complete rubbish' that some people on here have really turned on him is not true.
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Discussing what he has contributed to the club in terms of in field performance rationally is not "attacking" him. You can be critical. I haven't seen a single post where someone has attacked him on a personal level. I'm not sure why you're so emotional about it
 
Sir_Loin said:
Discussing what he has contributed to the club in terms of in field performance rationally is not "attacking" him. You can be critical. I haven't seen a single post where someone has attacked him on a personal level. I'm not sure why you're so emotional about it
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The lack of crtique from the club is probably what has held it back for so long.
I mean we reward an injury prone player who has never lived up to the billing of a first round pick and give him two more years to likely sit on the sidelines.
 
1) He ripped the hamstring off the bone!! That's enough to ruin your whole day. And maybe take a fair while to recover from.

2) Given his injury record since I am surprised he got 2 years. That's a lot of faith in his recovery.

3) He has shown that when fit he is a good inside and outside player. But that has always been for short periods. We do not know what a mature and fit Conca can do. If he brings his best and stays fit then he is a worthwhile pick 6. If his true form is actually a patchy mix of capability and mistakes then poor pick. If he is physically reduced as a player, but stays fit, I'd guess at C/B- quality. People are arguing that he is a total waste, based on his injured form. People saying he is B grade (including me) are assuming that if fit he picks right back at his better form. The first ignore the reality of his playing situation, the second have rose coloured glasses.
 
Dr Tigris said:
1) He ripped the hamstring off the bone!! That's enough to ruin your whole day. And maybe take a fair while to recover from.

2) Given his injury record since I am surprised he got 2 years. That's a lot of faith in his recovery.

3) He has shown that when fit he is a good inside and outside player. But that has always been for short periods. We do not know what a mature and fit Conca can do. If he brings his best and stays fit then he is a worthwhile pick 6. If his true form is actually a patchy mix of capability and mistakes then poor pick. If he is physically reduced as a player, but stays fit, I'd guess at C/B- quality. People are arguing that he is a total waste, based on his injured form. People saying he is B grade (including me) are assuming that if fit he picks right back at his better form. The first ignore the reality of his playing situation, the second have rose coloured glasses.
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Yes that's a big injury...Almost like doing a knee in terms of come back...2 years plus...
But then reecey went one better...did another hammy...right back to the start of rehab...
You need will power...dedication and an understanding club to get back from that...
All the best reecey!
 
Dr Tigris said:
1) He ripped the hamstring off the bone!! That's enough to ruin your whole day. And maybe take a fair while to recover from.

2) Given his injury record since I am surprised he got 2 years. That's a lot of faith in his recovery.

3) He has shown that when fit he is a good inside and outside player. But that has always been for short periods. We do not know what a mature and fit Conca can do. If he brings his best and stays fit then he is a worthwhile pick 6. If his true form is actually a patchy mix of capability and mistakes then poor pick. If he is physically reduced as a player, but stays fit, I'd guess at C/B- quality. People are arguing that he is a total waste, based on his injured form. People saying he is B grade (including me) are assuming that if fit he picks right back at his better form. The first ignore the reality of his playing situation, the second have rose coloured glasses.
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All I'm saying is you're overrating him if you think he's a "B" based on what he has delivered to date. You are most certainly inflating his rating at that level based on some sort of perceived potential to improve he has. I've stated his B&F performances have him in the bottom
6 of our best 22 in those years he has had a reasonable run at it. That's what the club thinks of his performances. That's not B, it's not consistent or "one of our best" it's holding your place. If this is the most talented list Hardwick has had then he is going to struggle to get a game.

I wish he was a gun. Not his fault he got picked at 6 but you surely have to look at the whole picture and not little aspects in isolation. The club clearly got it wrong with him and irrespective where he went in the draft he only just makes it into the side based on those performances. He might come out storming this year and cement a spot. It would be a rare event if he did. Hope I'm wrong.
 

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