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Player Watch 32 Travis Cloke

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That "flinch" moment when the ball came into the goal square was a telling moment for me. A few years ago he would've smashed that pack to get to the ball and likely marked it but times change.

agree - I flinched as I watched it.
 
That "flinch" moment when the ball came into the goal square was a telling moment for me. A few years ago he would've smashed that pack to get to the ball and likely marked it but times change.

It was at my end of the ground NT.......you call it a "flinch" I called it ducking at the time. Soft effort.

Below average performance yesterday.
 
I can't speak for "people", but the mix we had when Fas and Moore were in the side seemed to function a whole lot better than the mix we had today. It was back to bombing haphazardly to 1-on-3 again, it's just that Cloke wasn't the target it was Cox and Cloke may as well not have existed.

Well White is Just AFL Standered, Cloke is Finished and Cox only been playing for 2 Years.

Does not give you big Hope up Forward
 
I get smashed around here from time to time by a couple of posters most are pretty good.

I did share the info that a lot of the players and officials wont happy with Cloke due to how he handled the naked photo saga and were filthy on his work rate.

I am not Surprised. I see him just happy getting his Big Pay Check for not doing what he should be doing.

Had no Motivation to Try Harder
 

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He dropped like 7 kgs in the off season

Needs a fresh start and to go to a team with another key forward.

Richmond is perfect.

Just like it did with Heater. Might Give him a few more years at another Club
 
In his defense wicksy he did say Cloke was moping around after the nude pic article came out........he didn't say Cloke and Rebeccah aren't happy now.

Does it really matter if the I.T guy told him? We get it you don't believe his sources or his information.

????

"Did nothing but moped around the club for a month as the Mrs had left him and the engagement was called off."

Clearly didn't... Clearly wasn't.
 
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"Did nothing but moped around the club for a month as the Mrs had left him and the engagement was called off."

Clearly didn't... Clearly wasn't.

Oooops sorry, just goes to show mow much attention I paid to the rumour and most rumours I read on Bigfooty :$
 
Is bucks on 360 tonight?
Will be interesting to see whats said about this peanut

Will dribble shit like he does most weeks

Structures
Ball movement
Game plan

blah blah blah
 

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His own teammates have lost confidence in him. In the first quarter Cloke was one out running towards the goals and pendles choose another option . A couple of years ago you kick that to him and he marks it 9 out of 10 times.
 
You're joking right?
Has a crack at everything that goes near him and kicked 2 goals.
Had we had a crumber worth his own salt, they'd have kicked 10 off the mammoth efforts Cox was putting in.
Not joking at all. Not saying Cox doesn't give his all. he has to have he ball kicked to him at this point and that is to be expected. he had multiple opponents all day so I wouldn't expect a lot but he hasn't had much impact the last fortnight. I thought Cloke had a good enough game in the circumstances (coming back from the 2s and us getting smashed in every facet except ineffective ruck taps). Cloke talked and gave a few off that led to goals.
 
I'm a poster on Hotrods (it's been down for 5 days so I registered here, is still down) and one poster said the playing group apart from Goldsack & Toovey hate him. He and Pendlebury were criticised in a recent leading team meeting. Pendles was criticised for be a tame and weak captain and Cloke was criticised by the entire team for being selfish and emotional checked out when he signed his contract.
I don't know how much validity there is to this but sure as hell there are a few internal issues still at Collingwood. You don't have the variance in application and desire unless you have to push yourself collectively to "turn up and play".

We'll probably see a much improved effort this week and then a fall back to our now norm. We have list deficiencies and we are lacking fit bodies but even so far too often we are lacking desire and will. Whether or not Cloke is popular can't be a reason the whole team goes missing and in any case teams with good culture play with all types of players.

4 years of culture pursuit and we end up with this?
 
Not joking at all. Not saying Cox doesn't give his all. he has to have he ball kicked to him at this point and that is to be expected. he had multiple opponents all day so I wouldn't expect a lot but he hasn't had much impact the last fortnight. I thought Cloke had a good enough game in the circumstances (coming back from the 2s and us getting smashed in every facet except ineffective ruck taps). Cloke talked and gave a few off that led to goals.

Really? Most scoring shots that Cloke set up were behinds I thought.
 

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Really? Most scoring shots that Cloke set up were behinds I thought.
I gave him a bake for considering himself above shepherding for a teammate up the Punt Rd. end. Too self-interested.
 
Why cant a coach just cut the crap and say what he means
But then he might say something like this to a dumb question.

Robbo: Bucks, do you know about BigFooty? What do you really think of it?

Buckley: Spare me Robbo, I know what it is, but seriously, most on that are pure guessers, have less clues than my coaching staff. Their idea of football is so dumb that they make Sarah Palin sound smart.
 
I'm a poster on Hotrods (it's been down for 5 days so I registered here, is still down) and one poster said the playing group apart from Goldsack & Toovey hate him. He and Pendlebury were criticised in a recent leading team meeting. Pendles was criticised for be a tame and weak captain and Cloke was criticised by the entire team for being selfish and emotional checked out when he signed his contract.

How very damning.
 
cloke is down on confidence no doubt about it, even though he did not kick any goal l thought he was
trying harder than earlier in the season. at the moment the club and the team has no choice but to play
him and at chf where it is his natural position
l am worried about the team. he comes back in and we play poorly, or is adams the most influential player
we have
 
Will dribble shit like he does most weeks

Structures
Ball movement
Game plan

blah blah blah

You're not coming from a position of strength with that statement.
 
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