Player Watch #34: Liam McBean

[Glitch]

Has the same issue as Vickery and Griff, all 200cm (give or take a few centermeters) but they're not a big bustling, contested marking forward yet they're not natural ruckmen.

Agree - begs the question - why do we have 3 players like this on the list?

 

[TigerBelle]

That was asked of Dimma in the last 2-3 weeks and that was his answer.

Wow. I must have missed that. It's good to know I've got a good idea about how Damien normally responds to queries.

 

[SdKfz 181]

Awesome. Kick all the goals in the VFL that you want.

Kicking goals in the VFL does not equate to kicking goals in the AFL.

And the standard of defenders in the VFL is infinitely inferior to the AFL.

Honestly the VFL is a substandard competition. There are a lot of div 1 local league teams who would be more than competitive at VFL level.

People see that he kicks all these goals, and think that he deserves a gig in the seniors. The problem is that he doesn't really do much else, and that just won't cut it at AFL level.

 

[TheProwler]

He should go somewhere with a gym, with weights in it.

And someone to show him how to use them. Hope he does well wherever he goes.

 

[TheProwler]

McBean started so well at Tigerland and has seriously tapered off hey.
He is probably sick of the lack of opportunity.
I do wonder if he is good enough for AFL level but we really need to give him the chance.

Had his chance (2 games) and didn't win the coaches. VFL form is always hard to judge given the standard of delivery and also defenders.

Writing on the wall for him when Chol got all the NAB games and he watched on fit & ready to go.

 

[Joey longshadow]

People see that he kicks all these goals, and think that he deserves a gig in the seniors. The problem is that he doesn't really do much else, and that just won't cut it at AFL level.

I don't know ...seems to work for Vickery

 

[Brick Loosener]

Does Punt Road even have a gym?

 

[TigerImposter]

Does Punt Road even have a gym?

Yes gym jess

 

[Put a Lids on it]

Does Punt Road even have a gym?

 

[Lsta062]

People see that he kicks all these goals, and think that he deserves a gig in the seniors. The problem is that he doesn't really do much else, and that just won't cut it at AFL level.

But this is what people use to defend Ty Vickery's presence in our AFL team (that he kicks goals). If it is good enough for him, then why is it not good enough for McBean? This is the inconsistency that I sometimes don't understand. One is given consistent AFL games because he kicks goals even though he may not do much else around the ground, but the other is kept out of the team because he kicks goals and does not do much else around the ground.

My point is, just give a guy that has proven that he can kick goals a shot in the AFL. A team with a strong forward line can keep a guy like McBean out, but our forward line has scored the 5th least in the competition. Our season appears to be shot anyway, so try what you have got on your list. Try Markov for a couple games in a row, try McBean too. Once you have and they simply aren't performing, then drop them. This is why I am not really annoyed at the dropping of Lennon. He at least had a few games in a row, so his deficiencies at AFL level would be apparent to the club.

We have already gifted games to many players anyway, so stopping now is going to come off as favouritism rather than setting a standard.

 

[Calcium Man]

I actually thought McBean showed a bit against Collingwood last year. Presented well and set up a few goals.

Got unlucky with a mark touched of the boot but didn't panic and set up a goal.

Daniher struggles at AFL level at times yet Essendon continue to persist.

 

[Goldust]

And just to add to this, came across this site and was having a read of Beans stats, it seems even though he kicks goals he's fairly ineffectual outside of kicking a few goals.

1 Played in VFL trial against Northern Blues.
2 Played in VFL trial against Essendon.
3 VFL Two early goals then basically unsighted. Workrate has to lift. -
4 VFL Back to his best form with five goals in impressive days work. -
5 VFL In and out of the game in attack. Took some good marks and kicked one goal. -
6 VFL Unsighted in attack but appeared to be hobbling a bit. -
2015 Season
1 -
2 -
3 VFL Held to one goal in attack. Not his best day. -
4 VFL Three early goals but was then well-held by Dolphins. -
5 VFL Put his hand up for a debut with three goals. -
6 VFL Back to his best form at this level with five goals. -
7 Coll Did some goods things up forward, particularly early in the game. 4
8 VFL Just the one goal but presented well and competed hard. -
9 Ess Subbed off late after having the honour of playing on Fletcher in his 400th. 4
10 VFL Frozen out in attack. One goal from 10 possessions. -
11 VFL Bye. -
12 VFL Just the one goal but also spent time in ruck – 16 hitouts. -
13 VFL Played higher up the ground and competed hard – six tackles. -
14 VFL Superb in ruck and attack with four goals and solid tapwork. -
15 VFL Made most of chances with two goals from nine touches. -
16 VFL Starred in attack with five goals. Smart at ground level. -
17 VFL Kicked four goals and was always dangerous in attack. -
18 VFL Another bag of five goals as good run of form continues. -
19 VFL Bye. -
20 VFL Unsighted in attack. Just four touches and goalless. -
21 VFL Superb in front half with five goals. Workrate excellent. -
22 VFL Had to settle for share of goalkicking title after booting two. -
23 -
EF -
2014 Season
1 Didn’t play for Richmond VFL.
2 PM Kicked four goals to be one of the Tigers best. -
3 Ankle.
4 VFL Up and down game in first outing back. -
5 VFL Slow start but had an impact late on a tough day for talls. -
6 VFL Kicked a few goals but was unsighted for long periods. -
7 VFL Kicked two goals and had a hand in a few more. -
8 VFL Bye. -
9 VFL Quiet game in attack. Just one goal. -
10 Finger.
11 Finger.
12 Finger.
13 VFL Booted three majors and started to get back to some form. -
14 VFL Battled hard in attack without being a big factor. -
15 VFL Found enough of the ball but was forced up ground by Pies. -
16 VFL Kicked five goals in a welcome return to form. -
17 VFL Backed up last week’s five goals with another four. -
18 VFL Kicked two goals but wasn’t a big factor. -
19 VFL Rotated through ruck and forward. Kicked four handy goals. -
20 VFL Kicked another bag of five to take VFL goalkicking lead. -
21 VFL Quiet afternoon with just eight touches, two goals. -
22 VFL Held to two goals to be pipped for Frosty Miller Medal. -
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QF -
EF -
SF -
PF -
GF -
2013 Season
1 PM Competed strongly up forward and showed promise. -
2 VFL Super impressive with four goals. Just a smart footballer. -
3 VFL Kicked two goals and continues to show promise. -
4 Rested.
5 VFL Caught the eye with two goals and some smart play. -
6 VFL Four goals and was very good when the ball hit the deck. -
7 VFL Bye. -
8 VFL Kicked two goals and took some nice marks. Likely type. -
9 VFL Kicked three goals and oozes x-factor. Just needs the size. -
10 VFL Moved well again. Two goals but conditions weren’t helpful. -
11 VFL Bye. -
12 Rested.
13 VFL Booted two goals, taking his season tally to 19 from seven games. -
14 VFL Kicked two goals but played further afield and did well. -
15 VFL Goalless up forward but conditions made life tough. -
16 VFL Bye. -
17 VFL Kicked two goals in difficult conditions for a big man. -
18 Rested.
19 VFL Kicked six goals to lead Coburg to an upset win. -
20 VFL Kicked another five goals and made the most of his opportunities. -
21 VFL 13 disposals and 1.4 before an ankle injury ended his day. -

What this says is he should have been given an opportunity in late 2013 or early 2014 when his form was very sound.
And if memory serves me correct there was a groundswell of support for him to debut, unseen since the days of Justin Plapp!
And that's it in a nutshell .. if we didn't pick him when he was in form, we won't when he's out!

 

[Goldust]

I actually thought McBean showed a bit against Collingwood last year. Presented well and set up a few goals.

Got unlucky with a mark touched of the boot but didn't panic and set up a goal.

Daniher struggles at AFL level at times yet Essendon continue to persist.

Yes he did

 

[captain cotch 9]

Mcbean is a spud.
He wont make it in the AFL.
He is a good VFL player but that is it.
He is to skinny to play a key position and would get dominated in the ruck.

I'd rather Griffiths in the team than Mcbean. At least he can compete with big bodies.

If Mcbean players 50 games at AFL level I will streak.

 

[Goldust]

Mcbean is a spud.
He wont make it in the AFL.
He is a good VFL player but that is it.
He is to skinny to play a key position and would get dominated in the ruck.

I'd rather Griffiths in the team than Mcbean. At least he can compete with big bodies.

If Mcbean players 50 games at AFL level I will streak.

If that's the case than we need stringing up for keeping him on the list this year.
What, did we think he'd put on 15kg over summer?
If you have no intention of paying a guy or don't rate him, move them on.
Spots in an AFL list are precious.
There was interest in him from Carlton and elsewhere and we didn't try a trade ... dumb, dumb, dumb!

 

[Wacko23Jacko]

I actually thought McBean showed a bit against Collingwood last year. Presented well and set up a few goals.

Got unlucky with a mark touched of the boot but didn't panic and set up a goal.

Daniher struggles at AFL level at times yet Essendon continue to persist.

Thought our fwd line functioned better with the three talls of McBean, Jack and Vickery than any other time. McBean presented and drew defenders away at least and we had a lot more room to work with. Was unlucky he got a couple at his feet which is not making it easy in your first couple of AFL games!

 

[richoBABY]

 

[Tiges1229]

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Good on him I would leave as well .

 

[Groupie_]

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dud delist

 

[Lsta062]

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Yep, I wouldn't be mad at him for leaving. I don't think the club gave him enough opportunity

 

[juss]

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Watch him become a gun somewhere else to shaft us. Poor development by us.

 

[Goldust]

dud delist

THIS is the very attitude that has us where we are right now ... better than probably Essendon and Brisbane.
Dud ... delist.
So you're obviously happy it's taken four years to arrive at this conclusion without us ever giving him a chance.
Great drafting - great development - great work Tigers.

 

[Groupie_]

THIS is the very attitude that has us where we are right now ... better than probably Essendon and Brisbane.
Dud ... delist.
So you're obviously happy it's taken four years to arrive at this conclusion without us ever giving him a chance.
Great drafting - great development - great work Tigers.

very happy

 

[guruisatiger]

What this says is he should have been given an opportunity in late 2013 or early 2014 when his form was very sound.
And if memory serves me correct there was a groundswell of support for him to debut, unseen since the days of Justin Plapp!
And that's it in a nutshell .. if we didn't pick him when he was in form, we won't when he's out!

Good old plappy .Remember all the calls to Richmond club corner on sport 927. With andrew ques and haige shire Wow those were the days...

 

[TJTIGER]

Chaplins papers are stamped. Give the kid a fair shot. Bloody Griffiths has had unlimited chances delivered sfa. Time to unleash the jacks magical beans

Not sure of Chaplin's papers being stamped. He may just get a years extension as depth if our current flock don't fill his shoes...... Unless you have a tomato on the inside?