Player Watch #36 Joel Amartey

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Joel Amartey
Joel Amartey has shown strong form in the ruck and as a key-position player at both ends of the ground since being drafted to the Sydney Swans as a rookie ahead of season 2018. The Ghanaian-Australian produced arguably his best performance of the 2019 season against Sydney University in Round 6, which saw him collect 42 hit-outs and a goal. In season 2020, he made his AFL debut against Brisbane Lions in Round 17 after producing some strong individual performances in scrimmage matches, and impressed with eight hit-outs and two inside 50.

Joel Amartey
DOB: 02 September 1999
DEBUT: 2020
DRAFT: #28, 2017 Rookie Elevation
RECRUITED FROM: Beaumaris (Vic)/Mentone Gram (Vic)/Sandringham U18

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BloodySwan said:
Early days but I feel he's shown enough to warrant another contract.

He is playing very well this season and looks to be the player we need
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There is no question he's worth another contract. The question is how much is he worth paying to keep him away from would-be poachers? He's still not a proven commodity, and there are these recurrent injury issues.

I think his ceiling is higher than McLean's and we need him (depending on who we bring in over the off season via trade/free agency).

I don't think we'll lose him unless either we don't really want him or he has a pressing desire to return home (which I see no evidence of). Provided we continue to see him in our best 22, he'll stay. And given that I expect both Buddy and Reid to leave our list this year, I think the odds are good we'll retain him.
 

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Callipygian said:
There is no question he's worth another contract. The question is how much is he worth paying to keep him away from would-be poachers? He's still not a proven commodity, and there are these recurrent injury issues.

I think his ceiling is higher than McLean's and we need him (depending on who we bring in over the off season via trade/free agency).

I don't think we'll lose him unless either we don't really want him or he has a pressing desire to return home (which I see no evidence of). Provided we continue to see him in our best 22, he'll stay. And given that I expect both Buddy and Reid to leave our list this year, I think the odds are good we'll retain him.
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His injury just lowered his price a big chunk. I can't see him getting poached now.

I would expect he'll sign a 2yr contract extension now
 
BloodySwan said:
His injury just lowered his price a big chunk. I can't see him getting poached now.

I would expect he'll sign a 2yr contract extension now
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If he was midfielder I'd tend to agree but clubs get desperate for tall timber.

I also think other clubs will take the risk because it's soft tissue damage rather than structural. This is where the egos of opposition medical staff start kicking in because the general/list managers begin to ask questions pertaining to treatment in order to convince themselves of the decisions they're already going to make.
 
Slingshot Footy said:
If he was midfielder I'd tend to agree but clubs get desperate for tall timber.

I also think other clubs will take the risk because it's soft tissue damage rather than structural. This is where the egos of opposition medical staff start kicking in because the general/list managers begin to ask questions pertaining to treatment in order to convince themselves of the decisions they're already going to make.
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Ruled out until at least the bye. Really unfortunate for him as he was playing his best footy

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Need to re sign him regardless , we have put a lot of time into him and he's starting to come good. If we have pay a tall man premium for him then so be it.
Potentially we have Buddy , Reid and I think Mellican is off contract at the end of year to free some cash up and potentially a few players might look for other opportunities.
McLean should be on the table to trade if anyone. Much as I like his application he's not mobile enough. He might be good at contested marks but struggles to get to the contest and his rucking is limited.
Talls demand a premium because they normally take time to develop. If we lose Amartey and Buddy in one year then our tall forward stocks are very thin next year without anyone kicking the door down from the twos to come up.
McLean has a big chance now Amartey is out for a while to prove himself with a decent run of games not unless the coaches change up the system and play two rucks or a smaller forward line which I am not averse to short term until we get some talls back.
 
Agree we need to re-sign Amartey and that now is a good time to do so. Show him the love while he is on the skids.

McLean could go either way. I think it depends a lot on who else we have our eye on and how likely we are to get them. I really think that we are going to be a whole lot more active in the coming off-season. Partly because we have the capacity (cap space and draft capital) and partly because we have the needs, especially in terms of KPPs.
 
A real bummer for both us and him. Looked ready to grasp the opportunity.
A lot is going to depend on how he comes back over the back end of the year. Stay injury free and he'll get a 3yr x $500k contract at the least.
Come back, stay injury free and kick goals like he looked like he was going to....4 years x $700k.
Come back and get injured again and he's on a 1-2 yrs at $300k tops.

If I were him I'd be making damned sure I was ready before playing again this year. If they say it's a 4-6 week injury I'm not playing again till at least 7.
 
Membling said:
Bit of a vicious cycle there
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Yeah true, but according to Kennelly he could barely run two laps when he arrived, and even allowing for the injury interruptions, he still seems to struggle.

I just think he’s always going to have a relatively low ceiling on his aerobic capacity. Wouldn’t be the first guy.
 
J_Moore said:
Yeah true, but according to Kennelly he could barely run two laps when he arrived, and even allowing for the injury interruptions, he still seems to struggle.

I just think he’s always going to have a relatively low ceiling on his aerobic capacity. Wouldn’t be the first guy.
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Building a tank is possibly the easiest thing to gain out of thw other athletic traits.

In saying that, hopefully he will be parted at FF and just need to do more sprint work than gut busting runs
 

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Callipygian said:
There is no question he's worth another contract. The question is how much is he worth paying to keep him away from would-be poachers? He's still not a proven commodity, and there are these recurrent injury issues.

I think his ceiling is higher than McLean's and we need him (depending on who we bring in over the off season via trade/free agency).

I don't think we'll lose him unless either we don't really want him or he has a pressing desire to return home (which I see no evidence of). Provided we continue to see him in our best 22, he'll stay. And given that I expect both Buddy and Reid to leave our list this year, I think the odds are good we'll retain him.
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I agree. He has always been a Raw Talent. But now he is no longer Raw, he has matured like a very good cling peach. He is imperative to our next premiership chances. I think both he and McDonald could kick 100 goals given time as a Forward pairing. There is still room for McLean as the big pack mark and second ruck. But I doubt Hayden is ever going to kick anywhere 100. McDonald and Amartey are really exciting to watch. They could bring people to the footy by promoting them as the Swans Forward Sensations.

4-6 is not too bad and when he comes back he will be hungry for goals, 6 in his comeback match.
 
J_Moore said:
Guy is injury prone (4 hammies and OP) and has an ordinary tank. Some promising signs, but you wouldn’t want to bet the farm on him.
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He has a good enough tank to kick goals mate. As for injuries, so in Bud and Reid. both are injury prone. Bud could have played 500 by now if not for injuries, one whole season out. Reid could have played 300.

Amartey is a talent and those big boys with talent do not come along very often. A team normally fills up with people like Luffy, LRT, Reg, Craig Bolton etc. Very serviceable players with limited talent but very good performers at the level. One like Joel or Logan come along every year and we have been lucky enough to snaffle two. So, don't look a gift horse in the mouth mate. Enjoy the amartey party when he returns.
 
Ballarat Bob said:
Need to re sign him regardless , we have put a lot of time into him and he's starting to come good. If we have pay a tall man premium for him then so be it.
Potentially we have Buddy , Reid and I think Mellican is off contract at the end of year to free some cash up and potentially a few players might look for other opportunities.
McLean should be on the table to trade if anyone. Much as I like his application he's not mobile enough. He might be good at contested marks but struggles to get to the contest and his rucking is limited.
Talls demand a premium because they normally take time to develop. If we lose Amartey and Buddy in one year then our tall forward stocks are very thin next year without anyone kicking the door down from the twos to come up.
McLean has a big chance now Amartey is out for a while to prove himself with a decent run of games not unless the coaches change up the system and play two rucks or a smaller forward line which I am not averse to short term until we get some talls back.
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Melican, Harry, Bud (retiring), Reid (Retiring). We will also be watching very carefully how Rankin, Wicks, Sheather & Hall-khan progress. If there is no progression in the near future several will be delisted. Rankin seems to be travelling well out of this lot. Luke Parker and Dane Rampe are both on the wrong side of 30 now too. But they probably have at least one more after this.

Ok. So who do we play this week? Francis is fit and played reserves last week. He and Gould could be a makeshift back spine. Hickey is very close and completed full training, including match play last week. He will train as normal this week. He is very close. If he comes in that covers Amartey, although neither he nor Ladhams is going to kick 4. Melican is maybe one more week away.
 
ShireSwan said:
A real bummer for both us and him. Looked ready to grasp the opportunity.
A lot is going to depend on how he comes back over the back end of the year. Stay injury free and he'll get a 3yr x $500k contract at the least.
Come back, stay injury free and kick goals like he looked like he was going to....4 years x $700k.
Come back and get injured again and he's on a 1-2 yrs at $300k tops.

If I were him I'd be making damned sure I was ready before playing again this year. If they say it's a 4-6 week injury I'm not playing again till at least 7.
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He keeps doing hamstrings. This is an interesting one. Years ago if a player kept doing a hammy the trainer would suggest seeing a podiatrist or a sports footwear specialist to design a boot that made it far less likely to do more injury. I can remember one SANFL footballer in the 1970's who was having trouble and it was figured out that he had a high instep and the boots did not fit that. They designed insoles that fit him and Bob's yer Uncle no problems.

IIt could be as simple as that. But these days boots are very limited. They come in only one sole, moulded, several types of moulded, But they have no special fittings. They are also made for Soccer, not Aussie Rules. So, we do not have a boot made especially for a sport that is played are around 1,000 times the pace of soccer and who's players are pivoting, turning and twisting as well as running forward and backward. Soccer boots do not have a stud at the front on the toe, this was identified many years ago as being good for Aussie Rules. Even though they are said to be an Aussie rules boot they are basically the same as a Soccer boot. see the two examples. The first a soccer boot and the second and AFL Boot.
 

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