Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[Cataholic]

Maybe a fox den. There were fox prints found.
Gus might have crawled into one, rather than an animal dragged him.

Maybe, but I have a lot of trouble reconciling that hypothetical with the family's description of him as a shy boy who wasn't known to wander.

 

[Collie_wobbles]

I'm thinking if he was autistic and non verbal we'd know.

When AJ Elfalek went missing in the NSW bush, the information that he was autistic and non verbal was released straight away.

Current - 3yo Anthony 'AJ' Elfalak - Missing Hunter Valley NSW

*GOOD NEWS UPDATE - AJ has been found Anthony was last seen at a home on a rural property on Yengo Drive, Putty, south of Singleton, about 11.45am yesterday. He has not been seen since, sparking a widespread search throughout the night and into Saturday afternoon. Searchers are currently...

www.bigfooty.com

I believe the Autism speculation was brought upon by an apparent cousin of Gus that made several comments on a tik tok video, that said Gus has Autism.

Since then her comments have been shared around on Social media and many have assumed it as 100% fact.

But there's no proof she is a cousin and no proof Gus is Autistic.

 

[Underarrest_]

Maybe, but I have a lot of trouble reconciling that hypothetical with the family's description of him as a shy boy who wasn't known to wander.

Probably unlikely but unless the boot print was planted Gus has been 5/600 metres away from the homestead (within the past week or less.)

 

[Collie_wobbles]

Probably unlikely but unless the boot print was planted Gus has been 5/600 metres away from the homestead (within the past week or less.)

The 1 single foot print is strange IMO. Just by going off the photo and the type of soil I wonder if it's an embedded foot print from last time they had a little bit of rain. More water like a small puddle could of been sitting there and he stepped in it, hence why its the only one that's been found that's actually Gus's print.

 

[Cataholic]

Probably unlikely but unless the boot print was planted Gus has been 5/600 metres away from the homestead (within the past week or less.)

And surely he was in the presence of an adult at the time......weird they didn't find an adult's print beside his, weird it was one print only, and negligent if he was out there alone.

 

[Underarrest_]

And surely he was in the presence of an adult at the time......weird they didn't find an adult's print beside his, weird it was one print only, and negligent if he was out there alone.

I don’t think we know everything police do. The indigenous tracker has talked to the media and said he won’t talk about the footprint due to his working relationship with SAPOL. Has also said he will tell Gus’s story one day. Don’t know what that means.

 

[31550]

Why do you assume the police aren't doing all of this?

Because locals have reported they have not been interviewed by police. Nor have neighbours of Gus's Dad. If police were investigating alibis of family members then locals and associates would also need to be interviewed to corroborate. Police have publicly stated repeatedly they don't suspect foul play. This may be a tactical statement but there is no evidence that they are pursuing any theory other than 'wandered off'.
DM journos are trying to get a story. Nobody they spoke to has mentioned being asked anything by police which isn't in line with the 'wandered off' theory. Nobody has been asked when they saw Gus last, for example.

 

[zedx]

I'm also curious that Gus was allegedly discovered missing at 5:30pm, and allegedly the family searched for 3 hours before they called police.

The sun set at approx 6:15pm.

Wouldn't you call the police immediately, on the realisation that you only had 45 minutes of daylight to find a missing 4yo in the outback?

Wouldn't you also immediately call his dad for assistance?

Neither of those happened apparently.

I find that strange.

When the sun sets there is still at least 30 minutes of twilight, also in the outback the stars shine much brighter as their is no interference from man made light pollution. The Moon was in a 'waxing crescent' with aprox 27% of it surface shining on the earth, so it would not have been pitch black at the station, in fact it could have been quite light.
We also do not know for a fact that the family did not try to call the Father. The media has stated that the Father was renovating his farm house so Gus, his brother and Mother could move in, so we can assume (as also stated in the media) that Gus's parents were on good terms, thus there would be no reason not to call the Father. Theres the possibility that the Father did not answer his phone and that is why the Police went to his house or that the Police wanted to confirm his where abouts.

 

[FR0GGY]

That's the most unlikely thing that happened imo.

Human animal

 

[MP_]

lol I mention autism in this thread and look at the bigfooty ad I get

 

[Percel]

lol I mention autism in this thread and look at the bigfooty ad I get

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Dont go walkabout and ....

Watch out for Snakes, animals, Birds of Prey, people with shotguns, fox holes, dirt mounds, gates (lots of them) and ex SES trackers

 

[MP_]

Dont go walkabout and ....

Watch out for Snakes, animals, Birds of Prey, people with shotguns, fox holes, dirt mounds, gates (lots of them) and ex SES trackers

I’m most worried about transgender grannies

 

[Underarrest_]

I’m most worried about transgender grannies

Why?

 

[MP_]

Why?

Because that was the one thing the poster didn’t put in his list

 

[BonzaRam]

Hmmm, Forensic Science teaches us that everywhere you go you leave traces of being there. It could be as simple as a disturbed rock, broke twigs or branches etc... (things trackers look for)

Aside from one footprint that may or may not be related to Gus disappearing they have not found any trace of him. The only way that could happen is if he was taken by air. I have noticed posts stating that a wedge-tail eagle couldn't take him, they may want to do a net search on "wedgetail eagles hunt kangaroos" because a large wedgetail most certainly could take a child, especially if the child is on all fours looking like prey from above. Awful thought I know, but it is a possibility.

Failing that then human intervention is the most likely cause and statistics tell us it is more often than not caused by a family member.

Whether he is autistic or not, doesn't normally wander etc is irrelevant, he or anyone or thing involved would still leave traces behind, unless it never touched the ground.

Without further information I am leaning towards it never touching the ground.

 

[Curious Clues]

When the sun sets there is still at least 30 minutes of twilight, also in the outback the stars shine much brighter as their is no interference from man made light pollution. The Moon was in a 'waxing crescent' with aprox 27% of it surface shining on the earth, so it would not have been pitch black at the station, in fact it could have been quite light.
We also do not know for a fact that the family did not try to call the Father. The media has stated that the Father was renovating his farm house so Gus, his brother and Mother could move in, so we can assume (as also stated in the media) that Gus's parents were on good terms, thus there would be no reason not to call the Father. Theres the possibility that the Father did not answer his phone and that is why the Police went to his house or that the Police wanted to confirm his where abouts.

Twilight, stars, waxing moon would have made it quite light? lol
Once the sun had set, visual was quickly about to be gone. You are not spotting a lost child who is not moving or making any loud sounds imo. Police assistance, or any assistance for that matter is hours away. Maybe in hindsight they should have called 000 asap. If they found him in the meantime they could have called back to cancel.

 

[Cataholic]

Hmmm, Forensic Science teaches us that everywhere you go you leave traces of being there. It could be as simple as a disturbed rock, broke twigs or branches etc... (things trackers look for)

Aside from one footprint that may or may not be related to Gus disappearing they have not found any trace of him. The only way that could happen is if he was taken by air. I have noticed posts stating that a wedge-tail eagle couldn't take him, they may want to do a net search on "wedgetail eagles hunt kangaroos" because a large wedgetail most certainly could take a child, especially if the child is on all fours looking like prey from above. Awful thought I know, but it is a possibility.

Failing that then human intervention is the most likely cause and statistics tell us it is more often than not caused by a family member.

Whether he is autistic or not, doesn't normally wander etc is irrelevant, he or anyone or thing involved would still leave traces behind, unless it never touched the ground.

Without further information I am leaning towards it never touching the ground.

I'm thinking they should've had a reasonable chance of finding his hat in that scenario?

 

[Kurve]

Twilight, stars, waxing moon would have made it quite light? lol
Once the sun had set, visual was quickly about to be gone. You are not spotting a lost child who is not moving or making any loud sounds imo. Police assistance, or any assistance for that matter is hours away. Maybe in hindsight they should have called 000 asap. If they found him in the meantime they could have called back to cancel.

In the outback, you can actually see quite well on a clear night. If he wasn't under a bush he'd be spotted but in the daylight it might also be hard to find him under a bush.

 

[MP_]

Hmmm, Forensic Science teaches us that everywhere you go you leave traces of being there. It could be as simple as a disturbed rock, broke twigs or branches etc... (things trackers look for)

Aside from one footprint that may or may not be related to Gus disappearing they have not found any trace of him. The only way that could happen is if he was taken by air. I have noticed posts stating that a wedge-tail eagle couldn't take him, they may want to do a net search on "wedgetail eagles hunt kangaroos" because a large wedgetail most certainly could take a child, especially if the child is on all fours looking like prey from above. Awful thought I know, but it is a possibility.

Failing that then human intervention is the most likely cause and statistics tell us it is more often than not caused by a family member.

Whether he is autistic or not, doesn't normally wander etc is irrelevant, he or anyone or thing involved would still leave traces behind, unless it never touched the ground.

Without further information I am leaning towards it never touching the ground.

You might want to do a bit of research on wedge tailed eagles. The birds generally weigh up to 5kg and under ideal conditions can lift up to 50% of their body weight. They don’t take kangaroos, a Joey maybe and they certainly wouldn’t have taken a child that may have weighed 2-3 times the birds weight. Now if Yunta had Pterodactyls then I could believe it .

Wedge-tailed Eagle

The Wedge-tailed Eagle is Australia's largest living bird of prey and one of the largest eagles in the world.

australian.museum

I will add it’s not to say an eagle wouldn’t attempt to attack a small child but it’s not going to swoop and lift the child away. A lot of reports of eagles and large animals are because the animal is already dead, not due to the eagle attacking it.

 

[Curious Clues]

In the outback, you can actually see quite well on a clear night. If he wasn't under a bush he'd be spotted but in the daylight it might also be hard to find him under a bush.

Young 20/20 vision could be helpful on a clear night too.

 

[BonzaRam]

You might want to do a bit of research on wedge tailed eagles. The birds generally weigh up to 5kg and under ideal conditions can lift up to 50% of their body weight. They don’t take kangaroos, a Joey maybe and they certainly wouldn’t have taken a child that may have weighed 2-3 times the birds weight. Now if Yunta had Pterodactyls then I could believe it .

Wedge-tailed Eagle

The Wedge-tailed Eagle is Australia's largest living bird of prey and one of the largest eagles in the world.

australian.museum

I will add it’s not to say an eagle wouldn’t attempt to attack a small child but it’s not going to swoop and lift the child away. A lot of reports of eagles and large animals are because the animal is already dead, not due to the eagle attacking it.

Really? The fact that small animals are their most common prey does not mean they don't hunt roos etc.

"Wedge-tailed eagles are carnivores and scavengers. Most of their diet consists of rabbits and brown hares but they also feed on larger mammals such as foxes, feral cats, wallabies, small kangaroos, possums, wombats, koalas, and bandicoots. In some areas, Wedge-tailed eagles prey on birds such as cockatoos, Australian brushturkeys, ducks, crows, ibises, and even young emus. Reptiles are less frequently taken but can include frill-necked lizards, goannas, and brown snakes."

Wedge-Tailed Eagle - Facts, Diet, Habitat & Pictures on Animalia.bio

Basic facts about Wedge-Tailed Eagle: lifespan, distribution and habitat map, lifestyle and social behavior, mating habits, diet and nutrition, population size and status.

animalia.bio

and they wouldn't attack a human child hey?

"A crowd of stunned onlookers watched the enormous bird latch its talons on to the screaming boy's head during a show at Alice Springs Desert Park."

Eagle tries to carry off Australian boy

An enormous wedge-tailed eagle attempts to carry a terrified young boy into the sky at wildlife show in remote outback Australia.

www.bbc.com

 

[MP_]

Really? The fact that small animals are their most common prey does not mean they don't hunt roos etc.

"Wedge-tailed eagles are carnivores and scavengers. Most of their diet consists of rabbits and brown hares but they also feed on larger mammals such as foxes, feral cats, wallabies, small kangaroos, possums, wombats, koalas, and bandicoots. In some areas, Wedge-tailed eagles prey on birds such as cockatoos, Australian brushturkeys, ducks, crows, ibises, and even young emus. Reptiles are less frequently taken but can include frill-necked lizards, goannas, and brown snakes."

Wedge-Tailed Eagle - Facts, Diet, Habitat & Pictures on Animalia.bio

Basic facts about Wedge-Tailed Eagle: lifespan, distribution and habitat map, lifestyle and social behavior, mating habits, diet and nutrition, population size and status.

animalia.bio

and they wouldn't attack a human child hey?

"A crowd of stunned onlookers watched the enormous bird latch its talons on to the screaming boy's head during a show at Alice Springs Desert Park."

Eagle tries to carry off Australian boy

An enormous wedge-tailed eagle attempts to carry a terrified young boy into the sky at wildlife show in remote outback Australia.

www.bbc.com

As I said at the end of my post I don’t deny that they wouldn’t attempt to possible attack a small child but they aren’t going to swoop down and take one to their nest. Also he went missing at night, by day there were plenty of people searching, it would be highly unlikely the bird would be hunting in an area with lots of on ground activity.

 

[DemurePrincess]

Really? The fact that small animals are their most common prey does not mean they don't hunt roos etc.

"Wedge-tailed eagles are carnivores and scavengers. Most of their diet consists of rabbits and brown hares but they also feed on larger mammals such as foxes, feral cats, wallabies, small kangaroos, possums, wombats, koalas, and bandicoots. In some areas, Wedge-tailed eagles prey on birds such as cockatoos, Australian brushturkeys, ducks, crows, ibises, and even young emus. Reptiles are less frequently taken but can include frill-necked lizards, goannas, and brown snakes."

Wedge-Tailed Eagle - Facts, Diet, Habitat & Pictures on Animalia.bio

Basic facts about Wedge-Tailed Eagle: lifespan, distribution and habitat map, lifestyle and social behavior, mating habits, diet and nutrition, population size and status.

animalia.bio

and they wouldn't attack a human child hey?

"A crowd of stunned onlookers watched the enormous bird latch its talons on to the screaming boy's head during a show at Alice Springs Desert Park."

Eagle tries to carry off Australian boy

An enormous wedge-tailed eagle attempts to carry a terrified young boy into the sky at wildlife show in remote outback Australia.

www.bbc.com

This is proof that it could definitely happen. However, even if he was attacked and killed…. There would be evidence of the attack but there just isn’t so I’m certain we can rule out a wedge tail or any other animal for that matter bc with trackers and searches going on… something would have been discovered!

 

[Cataholic]

Really? The fact that small animals are their most common prey does not mean they don't hunt roos etc.

"Wedge-tailed eagles are carnivores and scavengers. Most of their diet consists of rabbits and brown hares but they also feed on larger mammals such as foxes, feral cats, wallabies, small kangaroos, possums, wombats, koalas, and bandicoots. In some areas, Wedge-tailed eagles prey on birds such as cockatoos, Australian brushturkeys, ducks, crows, ibises, and even young emus. Reptiles are less frequently taken but can include frill-necked lizards, goannas, and brown snakes."

Wedge-Tailed Eagle - Facts, Diet, Habitat & Pictures on Animalia.bio

Basic facts about Wedge-Tailed Eagle: lifespan, distribution and habitat map, lifestyle and social behavior, mating habits, diet and nutrition, population size and status.

animalia.bio

and they wouldn't attack a human child hey?

"A crowd of stunned onlookers watched the enormous bird latch its talons on to the screaming boy's head during a show at Alice Springs Desert Park."

Eagle tries to carry off Australian boy

An enormous wedge-tailed eagle attempts to carry a terrified young boy into the sky at wildlife show in remote outback Australia.

www.bbc.com

I think this incident is an outlier.

It appears the boy drew the attention of the eagle by running a zipper up and down, which may have sounded similar to a prey the eagle was familiar with.

There was no significant injury because the eagle apparently grabbed the hoodie.

I'm not sure this translates to any notable likelihood of eagle swooping an unsuspecting 4yo boy in the wild.

 

[Underarrest_]

Maybe a combination of animals could leave no trace. Indigenous trackers say that animals are very good at hiding their own tracks. Who knew?