Current 4yo Boy Missing Yunta SA

[passball]

Post #1626

It seems very specific to look at 6 mines, with 6.5km between the nearest and furthest.

I think they will be all in a line which corresponds roughly with the route driven by Jess and Josie on the afternoon of 27/9. This line will probably head out past the dam that was fully drained.

It has probably taken LE time to analyse the drone data to a) confirm the route driven (I'm assuming there would be telltale signs), and b) determine where the mines close to that route are.

Top of page 66?

That post mentions Gus's care arrangement which I thought we couldn't discuss

 

[Earls Smother]

Top of page 66?

That post mentions Gus's care arrangement which I thought we couldn't discuss

It's still there?

Don't discuss it, just look at it and absorb the information.

 

[passball]

It's still there?

Don't discuss it, just look at it and absorb the information.

I have absorbed it and it fits in to my theory very nicely

 

[dc3]

Have just caught up
So if young Gus is in a mineshaft how come there was no tracks, sent or belongings found on the way to said mineshaft ?

As someone mentioned looking more likely accident has been covered up and fear of losing other kid to the system and possibly even the perception one could garner from the family dynamics ie no grannies and zero pops

 

[31550]

I'm not sure how to find my old posts. Early in this thread, l stated l'd heard from a usually very reliable source (definitely not from social media) that Gus was in the kinship foster care of his maternal grandparents. His mother was not meant to be anywhere near him without supervision. I'll stand by this info because l heard it again today from a different reliable source.

I suppose this is why there has been such emphasis on Jess being "10 kms away" when Gus vanished from the homestead. Hhmmm..

Does anyone know if the family followed AFL? If so, mustering sheep would be an odd thing to do on GF day.

This one?

 

[passball]

This one?

I've understood it's that one.
There is A LOT to take in if there might be foul play.
The police have said several times there isn't. All good in the house apparently.

All my opinion though.

Wonder how today went

 

[passball]

Did police check any neighbours properties themselves?

 

[Underarrest_]

I've understood it's that one.
There is A LOT to take in if there might be foul play.
The police have said several times there isn't. All good in the house apparently.

All my opinion though.

Wonder how today went

I’m not sure that he’s in a mine shaft unless he’s fallen in one.
I hope if he is there though they find him.

 

[dc3]

This one?

What would be the normal circumstance around this protocol? Neglect , DV , mental health ?

Kinship of grandma but mum still on the station and dad in adelaide but apparently the family dynamic is rock solid ?

All seems very strange but have to back in dropbears with two verified sources here

 

[passball]

I’m not sure that he’s in a mine shaft unless he’s fallen in one.
I hope if he is there though they find him.

What would be the normal circumstance around this protocol? Neglect , DV , mental health ?

Kinship of grandma but mum still on the station and dad in adelaide but apparently the family dynamic is rock solid ?

All seems very strange but have to back in dropbears with two verified sources here

Addiction?
Where is the mum?
I hope they are talking to her frequently

 

[passball]

Surely nobody would have put Gus in a mine shaft, you wouldn't

 

[Underarrest_]

Surely nobody would have put Gus in a mine shaft, you wouldn't

Some might to save face or try and cover something but you’d have to be pretty cruel and have no regard for little Gus in my opinion.

 

[Underarrest_]

Addiction?
Where is the mum?
I hope they are talking to her frequently

I thought the baby was with Mum.

 

[Curious Clues]

Maybe SAPOL have been getting some tips from the king of keystone ex cops Gary Jubelin

Furious Aussies SLAM key police delays in the hunt for Gus Lamont

Australians who have been following the tragic case of missing South Australian four-year-old Gus Lamont were left gobsmacked by a police update on Monday afternoon.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[passball]

I thought the baby was with Mum.

I haven't heard or read anything about where the mum or Gus's brother are.
Maybe they aren't even together, who knows.
Could be staying at a relatives next door for all we know.

Some info from Collie_wobbles

Attached photo of the area. If you also do some family research on Shannon you'll find that Shannon's grandparents owned Bullyaninnie and was then passed down to Shannon's aunt.

As of 2022 Shannon's aunty * was still at Bullyaninnie Station.

https://cdn.environment.sa.gov.au/landscape/images/6173_ATO_April-2022_FINAL.pdf

 

[passball]

Some might to save face or try and cover something but you’d have to be pretty cruel and have no regard for little Gus in my opinion.

I could understand if somebody wanted Gus found to make it look like an accident happened but why not somewhere closer?
The mine shafts are so far away, it's taken until now just to find them.
To actually place him in a mine shaft to be hidden though is next level, I don't understand that

 

[Wallace52]

Post #1626

It seems very specific to look at 6 mines, with 6.5km between the nearest and furthest.

I think they will be all in a line which corresponds roughly with the route driven by Jess and Josie on the afternoon of 27/9. This line will probably head out past the dam that was fully drained.

It has probably taken LE time to analyse the drone data to a) confirm the route driven (I'm assuming there would be telltale signs), and b) determine where the mines close to that route are.

You’ve got it bang-on Earls.

I wish we could map them out.

IMO

 

[Wallace52]

I could understand if somebody wanted Gus found to make it look like an accident happened but why not somewhere closer?
The mine shafts are so far away, it's taken until now just to find them.
To actually place him in a mine shaft to be hidden though is next level, I don't understand that

I’m guessing if someone put Gus in a mineshaft, they didn’t want him to be found.

Because you know, if they find him, there will be an autopsy.

IMO

 

[Raisedeyebrow]

Sad eh. . I don’t envy them their jobs in this age where human life is extinguishable as swatting a fly ( maybe the flies are saying ‘so now you know what it feels like !)

Yes I too get frustrated, annoyed etc at what seems often to be blatant waste of what we’re told are meagre $$ in allocation to investigations, with no measurable results. .. and I’ll suggest that most of the investigators on those teams (who are stretched to the max handling who knows how many cases ) feel exactly the same way.

Most of the Gov departments in Aus need a broom through them - cut the bureaucracy and allocate the funds to doing what the department is set up to do IMO … lol, if only they asked for my opinion

And allow cost blowouts of millions of dollars on websites. I’m looking at you BOM. Imagine how those millions could have been better allocated.

 

[dc3]

And allow cost blowouts of millions of dollars on websites. I’m looking at you BOM. Imagine how those millions could have been better allocated.

$96 million for a website

 

[Frank Bunn]

I'm not sure how to find my old posts. Early in this thread, l stated l'd heard from a usually very reliable source (definitely not from social media) that Gus was in the kinship foster care of his maternal grandparents. His mother was not meant to be anywhere near him without supervision. I'll stand by this info because l heard it again today from a different reliable source.

I suppose this is why there has been such emphasis on Jess being "10 kms away" when Gus vanished from the homestead. Hhmmm..

It's hard to know the veracity of those sources you mention. Where was the mother, Jess, living if not at the homestead?

But it does seem very strange that there has been no sightings of Jess, or the one year old Ronnie, since Gus disappeared.

 

[Underarrest_]

Gus Lamont update: Police find no trace of missing boy Gus Lamont after first day of mine shaft search

So the mineshafts aren’t on the family property.

 

[Percel]

"Back off the coppers" IMO is a little strong IMO. (Not 'champworthy', mind )

Nobody AFAIK actually criticised any police. What people have done is question and challenge their methods, processes and priorities. The police on the scene and doing the actual work are only following orders and doing as they are directed by Command. The strategic decisions as to which direction the investigation heads, timing, resources, and priorities are all set by a handful of folks well up the food chain. Dare I suggest there is a little bit of political influence in how these decisions are made? They are not made by the folks on the ground.

But SAPOL (meaning the entire force) is accountable to the people of South Australia. Agree there is no detailed "public knowledge of how they are working through the case". But the public are entitled to know (generally) how their money is being spent, so they can be assured it is spent wisely, without compromising the integrity of ongoing investigations, of course. The public statements such as, "We don't suspect foul play", are not particularly reassuring without any further explanations. If you cant say why, then don't say it at all. E.g. "We are pursuing all possible lines of enquiry, and won't be commenting on specific theories or internal processes in an ongoing investigation."

Probably, nobody directed the ground force to identify mineshafts, map them or search them. That's why they didn't do it initially, even though some folks may have known of their existence.

The fish rots from the head down.

. Champworthy love it, played sir.

Plenty in here have criticised police, some unintentional, some more emotive.

I don’t ever believe they need to share how, what and why they are doing things they are. There are mechanisms in place post activity to measure that. The police are there to serve Gus and the family, not an overly needy public.

We’ll think differently on this, but I’m totally cool with that.

I haven’t smelt the rotting fish yet

 

[Wallace52]

$96 million for a website

Absolutely bloody hopeless.

 

[DropBearess]

It's hard to know the veracity of those sources you mention. Where was the mother, Jess, living if not at the homestead?

But it does seem very strange that there has been no sightings of Jess, or the one year old Ronnie, since Gus disappeared.

I know the veracity of sources is always questionable unless proveable, but my source is usually valid and reliable. When child custody is in question, sometimes a parent may be given custody of a child/children, but not necessarly another offspring. When support agencies are involved in 'at risk' situations, it can be very challenging to monitor any arrangements, much more so in remote areas. Family services are already in disarray in cities, with workers sometimes never seeing a child for months, sometimes never.