Current Abduction of 4yo Blowholes Shacks WA *Terence Kelly Convicted

[Kurve]

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Current - The Bunker Part 2

 

[austcrime]

Regarding the attempted abduction of the 9yo at the campground in 2009....

Why nothing more from this perp since then?

Has he been living in a paedophile's paradise in SE Asia for many years?

Perhaps still calls Australia home - and operated as a FIFO; having a parallel life in some village in Cambodia; Philippines; etc ...

Then covid comes and shuts his access to children down; then he cracks and goes back to his old ways of tent extraction....

The father states the perp was in his 20s or 30s...

Spool forward to 2021 - now he's late 30s to about 50....

I am sure the police will be looking into recently paroled sex offenders who have recently done a 10 year stretch...

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[deanc]

Pretty unhelpful that there have been headlines on the same day relating to the car CCTV footage, the police now searching the parents’ house, the ‘tough question’ the parents had to face and the AFP’s special tech involvement.

Sends a lot of mixed messages.

This is just predominately simply producing related content purely for the sake of the creation of content.

If your boss has told you produce/publish 3 or 4 'Cleo Smith missing' related stories per day, that is what you do - whether they are relevant and/or accurate and/or helpful and/or conflicting reports - that is not the priority..!

 

[chopflop]

Regarding the attempted abduction of the 9yo at the campground in 2009....

Why nothing more from this perp since then?

Has he been living in a paedophile's paradise in SE Asia for many years?

Perhaps still calls Australia home - and operated as a FIFO; having a parallel life in some village in Cambodia; Philippines; etc ...

Then covid comes and shuts his access to children down; then he cracks and goes back to his old ways of tent extraction....

The father states the perp was in his 20s or 30s...

Spool forward to 2021 - now he's late 30s to about 50....

I am sure the police will be looking into recently paroled sex offenders who have recently done a 10 year stretch...

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Nah he jus ded

 

[austcrime]

Ok thanks - missed that update whilst I was writing my post ... 555

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[Awakening]

The AFP have oversight with pedophile activity investigations in Australia as well

I don't get it. If the AFP are using some top secret technology to bust a human trafficking ring, then why do they have to do it from the family home?

 

[Wombot]

I don't get it. If the AFP are using some top secret technology to bust a human trafficking ring, then why do they have to do it from the family home?

They seemed to be looking for prints around windows and fences on the chance that the girl may have been stalked. I’m sure there are other reasons not related to the parents as suspects if that’s what you’re getting at.

 

[Kurve]

I don't get it. If the AFP are using some top secret technology to bust a human trafficking ring, then why do they have to do it from the family home?

They might have computers in the house the AFP want access to, take copies of their social media interactions, images that have gone up online, activity, friends lists etc. at a guess.

 

[Mudman85]

They seemed to be looking for prints around windows and fences on the chance that the girl may have been stalked. I’m sure there are other reasons not related to the parents as suspects if that’s what you’re getting at.

That was last week. Today they were inside the home with gloves on

 

[jason_recliner]

It would be good if this secret AFP technology was some kind of live satelite feed, like google maps but live in real time. I wonder if they have anything like that

At least satellite images that update every hour or so, in a sparsely populated area it should make it easy to track down any cars on that highway

Extremely unlikely. Most satellites are in orbit and cover an area only occasionally. Geostationary satellites are located for specific purposes.

 

[Awakening]

They seemed to be looking for prints around windows and fences on the chance that the girl may have been stalked. I’m sure there are other reasons not related to the parents as suspects if that’s what you’re getting at.

No I'm not pointing fingers at the parents but I'm clueless about technology or the AFP so was trying to understand.

I did wonder who lived at the house permanently and who might regularly crash there. Some people live with extended family members or have a roommate/lodger or have friends that regularly stay for a couple of nights or weeks. So I did wonder if someone else who stayed in the house viewed illegal pornography and inadvertently put Cleo in danger?

 

[Kurve]

 

[skygem]

Extremely unlikely. Most satellites are in orbit and cover an area only occasionally. Geostationary satellites are located for specific purposes.

satellite gps navigation technology is more advanced, the only differences are what we see delayed time to what they see more detailed

That is why Governments worldwide can have orbiting artificial satellites and the general community can only see maybe 1-2 years back while they are in true 'real time', just imagine if we could just say ok, let's Google Earth about a certain matter, and then see all the detailed events unfold, Wow, that would be different

ours is called the AFD
Soviet Union(Russia) is KGB
Chinese BeiDou

 

[skygem]

any idea what it could be transported out from the premises?

 

[Falconista]

any idea what it could be transported out from the premises?

If the AFP are involved- likely hard drives, laptop/tablets and maybe the modem.

As stated above by Awakening, checking activity to see if Cleo has been put in danger through screen use or indeed what parents have done online.

 

[Eagle Wrath]

That evidence bag would hold multiple smaller evidence bags.
I'm willing to bet, Cleo's hairbrush and toothbrush for starters. Not sure what else they may have taken.

 

[deanc]

They might have computers in the house the AFP want access to, take copies of their social media interactions, images that have gone up online, activity, friends lists etc. at a guess.

Good guess - related, note the AFP have some of the best Cybercrime analysts and technicians in the World.

The process of elimination of persons of interests and/or possible suspects which already is probably close to 1000 people have mostly all been in a physical environment - now the AFP Cyber investigators will look into the digital and online world.

Assuming they're in the house and accessing physical devices (which is technically a convenience, more than a necessity) I suspect they will primarily undertake deep dives into the couples social media accounts, specifically any online interaction involving Cleo which will be meticulously researched. Photos of Cleo posted and shared on social media platforms which people 'liked/loved', perhaps some requested more photos etc..?
They will/can trace who shared what with who and if they need to, they'll simply hack into peoples social media accounts. 64bit encryption and access to remote physical or cloud based servers/client accounts for these Cyber cops, is not even a challenge...

This investigative exercise may or not provide any leads, but again it's primarily about eliminating POI's/possible suspects...

 

[ep2018]

I think its odd how long they spent there. Maybe they're covering their bases and ruling the family out. Maybe they think the parents know more than they're letting on.

 

[zedx]

I think its odd how long they spent there. Maybe they're covering their bases and ruling the family out. Maybe they think the parents know more than they're letting on.

I don't think its odd at all. The Police etc need to make sure they have covered every single angle. Can you imagine the public back lash if they missed something? This case is so highly publicized they can't afford to make a mistake.

 

[ep2018]

I don't think its odd at all. The Police etc need to make sure they have covered every single angle. Can you imagine the public back lash if they missed something? This case is so highly publicized they can't afford to make a mistake.

Typically police spent the first 48 hours of a missing child case ruling out the parents. Why ten days in? Why a four hour house search?

 

[zedx]

Typically police spent the first 48 hours of a missing child case ruling out the parents. Why ten days in? Why a four hour house search?

This is not your typical kidnapping. The event occurred out of the home and for most of the first 48 hours she was assumed missing not kidnapped. Unfortunately because of these circumstances, some lines of investigation may not have followed in the usual sequence of investigation procedures.

 

[Longmembrey]

Typically police spent the first 48 hours of a missing child case ruling out the parents. Why ten days in? Why a four hour house search?

Yeah, 100 police involved in the investigation and they take 10 days to forensically search the family home? On the first day Jake is back there? Nah, not buying it. Join the dots, they are on to the parents big time.

 

[chopflop]

This is not your typical kidnapping. The event occurred out of the home and for most of the first 48 hours she was assumed missing not kidnapped. Unfortunately because of these circumstances, some lines of investigation may not have followed in the usual sequence of investigation procedures.

Missing children these days are never presumed missing. Police work both angles from the start given how critical the first few hours are in an abduction case. As soon as the police heard missing child they would have been proceeding in a manner where the possibility of foul play by family members was involved as well as the possibility of abduction. This would have been heightened by the fact they were called in relatively late

 

[broken paradigm]

I don't get it. If the AFP are using some top secret technology to bust a human trafficking ring, then why do they have to do it from the family home?

Last week was National Child Protection Week! https://www.afp.gov.au/what-we-do/crime-types/child-protection

maybe taking photographs of internal walls - colours, wallpaper, furnishings, cabinets, fabrics - sheets, curtains, furniture etc, tiles on walls, flooring material, clothing, plants in the garden. I hope they have been to the child-care centre and school that Cloe attended.

They look for things like that in the background of photographs they locate online that pedos are sharing. Maybe the 'other things' missing from the campsite are clothing items or other personal items belonging to Cleo, the baby or parents. There is a site in the US where LE enforcement post photographs of items and ask for public assistance to identify. Such a site started up by AFP this year in Australia. I will find the links.

And maybe with their whizbang technology checking for trace DNA.

 

[broken paradigm]

Missing children these days are never presumed missing. Police work both angles from the start given how critical the first few hours are in an abduction case. As soon as the police heard missing child they would have been proceeding in a manner where the possibility of foul play by family members was involved as well as the possibility of abduction. This would have been heightened by the fact they were called in relatively late

Called in relatively late due to parents relying on social media to get assistance from their community in Carnarvon. One thing that was great that came out of that was the local helicopter firm who were in the air before police arrived and were able to grab shots of all vehicle on the highway, tracks etc.

 

[broken paradigm]

This is not your typical kidnapping. The event occurred out of the home and for most of the first 48 hours she was assumed missing not kidnapped. Unfortunately because of these circumstances, some lines of investigation may not have followed in the usual sequence of investigation procedures.

the chosen abduction site was a big advantage to the subhuman