Past #7: Adam Simpson - 306 games for NM (95-09; 5th AT) - NM captain (04-08) - current WCE head coach

who is better boomer or simmo and who would win the brownlow

  • boomer

    Votes: 8 66.7%
  • simmo

    Votes: 4 33.3%

  • Total voters
    12
  • Poll closed .

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After reading the threads on the best roles for McKernan and Colbert, what does everything here think about grooming Adam Simpson to be the next John Blakey.

Blakey has been our specialist tagger ever since he walked into Arden Street. There have been so many times when he's been sent to minimise the effect of players such as Jarman and Hird. However, he cannot go on forever. Earlier in 2000, Nathan Buckley and Collingwood was on fire, but when we played them, Simpson put Buckley out of the game. Later in the season, Pagan tried the same trick, this time on Kouta and Carlton, and Simpson was carved up....but such was Kouta's form, no-one could have shut him down. Still, with Simpson's work on Buckley still fresh in the mind, should we be grooming him for the role that Blakey has filled for us?

Some stats:

John Blakey: 187 cm and 83 kg.
Adam Simpson: 185cm and 87 kg.

The other thing is what the future role for Simpson will be. He has consistently won the ball out of the middle for us, however, his disposal still leaves a lot to be desired. With the recruitment of Sinclair, McLaren, Smith, and Harris, plus with the possibility of Pickett being played in midfield, all of whom have disposal skills better than Simpson, there is the distinct chance that he will have to find a new role within the team. One of Simpson's main strengths is his stamina, so he should be able to run games out like Blakey. Also, with a tagging role, his main job is to get between his opponent and the ball, hence his inability to kick directly to one of our players will be less of a liability.

Any thoughts on this?
 
I agree Shinboner. Every team needs a Blakey type player. Simpson can do this role admirably. His strengths are endurance and discilpine, the key attributes to a great tagger. We need to reshape our midfield with players who can hit team mates on the chest, and as you correctly pointed out this is not Simmos strength.

He has been great for us over the past 4 years or so. Lets hope he keeps it up

Cheers
 
You're right Shinboner, we do need another John Blakey type in the side. At this stage, Simpson does appear to be the best option. He is a good mark, and like you previously said he did an excellent job on Buckley earlier on in the year. I'm not a fan of tagging, I like to see each team's best players go against each other. I'm not sure, if I'd want them playing the same role in the team, as it deprives us of another attacking player...
 

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He's a terrific player, but I am not sure he is a terrific HBF. He is too loose, which looks ok when he wins the ball, but bloody ordinary when he doesn't. He would put the wind up a few opponents at the centre bounces, that's for sure, and his ball handling skills would be a treat to watch there.

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Agree with C-I-K that his ball winning and disposal skills would be magical to see when he's in the middle. As for Pickett's play off the ball, he did very well for two seasons until teams worked him out and deliberatly exploited his loose marking in 2000. However, his play did tighten up late in the season, so hopefully it'll be less of a problem in 2001.

The idea of Pickett being in the centre (and really, we'd be hoping that Pickett follows in the footsteps of another player that did the switch from the half back flank to the middle in Andrew McLeod...but we can do without the McLeod injuries) hinges on finding someone else that can play half back flank. Troy Makepeace, while he's done well as a rookie, still has to do more before I'm convinced that he can follow in the footsteps of Pickett and Laidley. Meanwhile, Clayton Lasscock hasn't made a senior appearance yet, although a few people seem to regard him highly. The last option is using Colbert as a half-back flanker, but I still can't see him as a permanent half-back flanker.....it'd be a waste of talent if you couldn't move him around the field.
 
Originally posted by Rooboy 96:
So why does everyone want Pickett to be a midfielder... when he is one of the best HBF in the league...

Because he is a ball magnet (ie: plays too loose in defence, and would be better suited if someone was matching up on him)
 
Are we all assumming that Blakey is playing his final season in 2001. He is fit enough and dedicated enough to play into his late thirties at least. Personally, I hope his gives Michael Tuck's record a real shake.

Pickett and Kingy should become a part of our midfield rotation. The speed and drive these two players can give us through the centre would one of the best midfields in the league, even more dangerous.
 
Pickett is ideal for the midfield and if he can drag his sorry ass from the ground and get fit enough he will be awesome for us there.

As for Lasscock I have heard similar stories, but there is also David King who can be sent back there from time to time to provide impetus bearing in mind that not everyone can play in the midfield.

A centreline of Stevens, Harvey and Pickett is a fairly exciting prospect with the option of winger types such as King, Grant (if he recaptures his class and hunger), simpson who has done a job in the past and you have a very flexible midfield.

At least Pickett has the ability to elude and deliver, as does Harvey, while Stevens will be the tough nut.
 
I don't know what's happened to Daphne's idea of having a topic on each player. It might have started as a part of the war between the Roos and Bears
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boards, but I thought they were perfectly valid threads with some interesting responses, so I've taken the liberty of continuing where Daphne left off.

Today's player is Adam Simpson. Go sick, Roos fans - I will chime in after I've filled the main boards up with s**t like I do every morning
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Adam Simpson - gets a lot of the pill, is hard at it but his disposal isn't great. Extra pressure was put on him with Stevo's injury last year and I think, in general, he came through. This year is a big one for him but hopefully Smith and, possibly, Harris will provide more depth in the midfield ranks.
 
Simmo is fantastic in close. Very athletic which makes him dangerous at set pieces ie. boundary throw ins and ball ups; so often used by Pagan to come over the top and get the ball rolling our way.

Very good hands, strong mark for his size. Has good stamina hence finishes games strongly. Mentally seems good, reads the play well and is very disciplined.

His weakness which is blatantly obvious, is his disposal by foot. Has probably the worst disposal of any established midfielder in the competition. Which after at least 5 pre seasons at the club won't improve. At least though he can kick 50 meters, and rarely goes short. Hence when he turns the ball over at least it its 50+ meters away.

Crucial too our chances of winning the flag, he must have a big year; becasue he is vital to our chances of breaking 50/50 out of the centre square.

Go ROOS'

Shack
 

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Good call Shack and IM think that you both have it spot on... I liked the work Simmo did on Buckley in round 6 last year... still a little inconsistent but should improve... another notch this year...
 
I think Simmo's disposal problem ,while evident, can be minimised by specifying his role. As Shack pointed out, as least the ball travels 50 metres before a potentiual turnover. Simpson is also one of the main avenues forward, ranking very highly most seasons in the stats for getting the ball inside the 50 metre arc. With a player like Carey in the goal mouth, Simpson's disposal need not be 100% spot on. Carey is practically unbeatable in any contest where the ball is in the air within around 10-15 metres if there is sufficient space to follow the ball. Ideally, of course, this would be avoided if Simmo can fine tune his kicking skills.
Simpson is one of our key midfielders in getting the ball out of ruck contests, and this may be even more important now that we have lost the centre-clearance ability of Peter Bell. Simmo's season 2000 may not have been as good as 1999, but some people on the official forum have written him off as being a fringe player this year based laregly on his kicking (and the influx of new midfield talent), and I think it's a bit early for that.
 
Thanks Darky for taking over. I think Simmo does a great job he keeps the big names quiet, who will forget how he did his job on Nathan Buckley at the G the first time we played them last season, and then on Saturday night just in case you didnt know he kept Peter Matera quiet for most of the night, didnt see a lot of him but didnt see much of Matera either.
 
Disposal is his only query, and occassional lapses in concentration and vigour are a concern.

But he is a very good player who can also be dangerous up forward although he is rarely used there.

Will be a good player for a long time.
 
Who will Adam 'Homer' Simpson play on tonight
My guess is Hird and that he will keep him down to under 10 disposals
 
SEASON: Like Grant, probably didn't start well but had a good middle and end. His 44 possession game was fantastic. One of his best years for the club.
FUTURE: An interesting player. He kicks windmills and isn't overly quick, but he is footy smart and has a good leap and pair of hands. It will be interesting to see how Denis lines up the older guys particuarly with promising youngsters nipping at their heels . He is one of our core quintet of Stevo, Harvey, Grant and King. He will continue to be the tagger next year, but expect him to play a little bit down back if the quicker and more skilled guys like Harris, Smith and Rawlings begin to have an impact. The question will be whether the Roos midfield will be good enough to worry other sides, other than us reacting.
POSITION: Centre/Half Back
 
Seemed to have gone down hill from mid 2000 until early rounds 2001.Lifted his game around the same time Grant got dropped and started to return to his 1998/99 form as the year went on.
Generally solid and reliable and will continue to be so for another five or six years.
 
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