8 Rookie midfield strategy

[Tiger Titus]

First year players tend to score better and thus rise in price faster when played in the centre. It seems a lot easier this year to find cheap youngsters I'm happy with in the midfield than on any other line.

What do you guys think of loading up the mids with rookies that should play (and rise in price quickly) whilst stacking the other lines with guns?

For example, here's my first pass at a team:

Backs: Goddard, Deledio, Newman, Birchall, Yarran, Lake, Buntine, (Ellis, Morris)
Mids: Coniglio, Wingard, Morabito, Docherty, Treloar, Shiel, (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Rucks: Goldstein, Leuenberger, (Giles, Stevenson)
Forwards: Franklin, Fyfe, Johnson, Beams, Rioli, Martin, N. Riewoldt, (Cameron, Walsh)

The forward line is where you can see all the freed up cash - Dustin Martin and Nick Riewoldt are pretty handy at F6 and F7.

The other consideration is that I beleive that many of the mids who are $600,000+ will struggle to maintain that price and will be cheaper to acquire when I'm looking to upgrade.

Note I'm also running 2 defenders and 3 forwards who dual position mid, so I could have a more traditional setup, I'm just taking advantage of the fact that the best rookies are mids.

 

[Impromptu]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

I had an 8 rookie midfield in 2010 and finished 724 with:

Midfield - Trengove, Martin, Barlow, Banfield, Banner, Bastinac (Jetta, Shuey)

The pros and cons of the strategy are listed on the thread below:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=686453

But one of the issues in 2010 was a lack of permanent captain!! Good luck if you try it!

 

[Daniels]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

Pretty original..........

Hi Impromptu!

 

[SoupAStars]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

I reckon the way to go, if you wanted to do something like that would be 1 premium (captain) and 7 rookies. You'd get the best of both worlds.

 

[Pocket_Pears]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

I'm now tending toward a 3-starting-rookie midfield at this stage, 2 starting forward rookies and 2 starting back rookies (incl Clarke).

 

[Hondo]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

I reckon the way to go, if you wanted to do something like that would be 1 premium (captain) and 7 rookies. You'd get the best of both worlds.

It's now blasphemous to question the great man but in hindsight I do remember in 2010 thinking that Impromptu should have picked at least one premium mid (Ablett) and then all rookies.

I do think you want one premium mid in there to be your captain, perma-captain even. I started 4 midfield rookies that year and felt I was pushing it until I saw Prompts' 8 midfield rookie team!

 

[TigerGlory]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

Only problem is you give yourself little flexibility to grab a forward or defender gun that emerges during the year.

Nat Fyfe being the obvious example from last year. If you didnt start with him and you employed this strategy, you arent giving yourself the flexibility to be able to pick him up in the middle of the year when everybody else will have him.

8 Midfield rookie strategy is very high risk, particularly since you can be sure to grab blokes like Ablett, Pendlebury, Judd etc, who you know you'll end up grabbing regardless.

 

[Latro]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

Fyfe had midfield eligibility last year he could of been traded into the midifeld.

 

[RustNeverSleeps]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

Fyfe had midfield eligibility last year he could of been traded into the midifeld.

He was the 18th ranked midfielder by years end; there were better options.

 

[Latro]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

But you could of changed him into the forwards when you got an injury.

 

[Tiger Titus]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

Only problem is you give yourself little flexibility to grab a forward or defender gun that emerges during the year.

Nat Fyfe being the obvious example from last year. If you didnt start with him and you employed this strategy, you arent giving yourself the flexibility to be able to pick him up in the middle of the year when everybody else will have him.

8 Midfield rookie strategy is very high risk, particularly since you can be sure to grab blokes like Ablett, Pendlebury, Judd etc, who you know you'll end up grabbing regardless.

That's an interesting point. I must admit the backline in particular looks like the most expensive players may slide with others taking their place (there are just so many that are 28 plus). Geez it'd be nice to know which smokies are gonna pay off.

 

[ubeaut]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

Like your logic Tiger and have thought of a similar approach except for having Ablett and 7 rookies. Only problem is getting 7 (or at least 5) players scoring each week. Pick the wrong rookies and you'll end up trading yourself out of the season early!

 

[Tiger Titus]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

Like your logic Tiger and have thought of a similar approach except for having Ablett and 7 rookies. Only problem is getting 7 (or at least 5) players scoring each week. Pick the wrong rookies and you'll end up trading yourself out of the season early!

There are a lot of kids that will get plenty of games, the thing that worries me is the sub rule!

Can't handle 2 or 3 players scoring 20-30!

 

[bombermick]

It could work if you select an Ablett or Swan as perma captain, as well as finding a sneaky mid-pricer like this year's Shiel. Finding 8 rookie mids who will appreciate quickly is very difficult, but I'm all for people trying out different strategies. It might win them a car.

 

[freo84]

I love it. But I'm to chicken to try it in my second year. Finding the right rookies will be a challenge as others have pointed out. Good luck to ya mate

 

[DaSawx]

Wouldn't you be missing out on some big scores from midfielders early on? Sure you can fill out other positions but it's not like it's easy to find forwards and defenders who can score high every week.

 

[Th3 DoG FaTh3R]

what are peoples opinions on best rookie options without being too GWS centric...

 

[The Big Sauce]

First year players tend to score better and thus rise in price faster when played in the centre. It seems a lot easier this year to find cheap youngsters I'm happy with in the midfield than on any other line.

What do you guys think of loading up the mids with rookies that should play (and rise in price quickly) whilst stacking the other lines with guns?

For example, here's my first pass at a team:

Backs: Goddard, Deledio, Newman, Birchall, Yarran, Lake, Buntine, (Ellis, Morris)
Mids: Coniglio, Wingard, Morabito, Docherty, Treloar, Shiel, (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Rucks: Goldstein, Leuenberger, (Giles, Stevenson)
Forwards: Franklin, Fyfe, Johnson, Beams, Rioli, Martin, N. Riewoldt, (Cameron, Walsh)

It's an interesting take but my first thought is that team is going to get slaughtered when it comes to byes. Now the odd 0 for the optimum team is going be almost unavoidable but looking at your premiums you have 5 premium backs from the round 13 bye have a look at some round 12 options in Heppell, Shaw & Broughton. Your forwards are similar with 3 from round 12 & 4 from round 13 you are looking at 3 0's on that line as well.

That's just your mock team & I am in no way saying it's not a viable strategy but that side would need some fine tuning to make it work.

Also what do you envisage that team scoring per week?

 

[Pocket_Pears]

There are plenty of viable backline rookies as well - Buntine, Clarke, Docherty, Spurr, Morris, Ellis, Brown, Wilkes etc...

You could stack your backlines and midfields evenly with rookies meaning you don't have to sacrifice premium midfielders.

 

[kreuze_missile]

Re: 8 Rookie midfield strategy?

WOOOOSH.

That's the sound of me blowing by your dodgy rookie midfield

 

[bomberboy0618]

what are peoples opinions on best rookie options without being too GWS centric...

Kavangah
Wingard
Bootsma
Mitchell
Grigg

 

[Daniels]

Kavangah
Wingard
Bootsma
Mitchell
Grigg

Really...? Somebody has been doing some research

 

[bomberboy0618]

Really...? Somebody has been doing some research

Theyre the ones I predict will play.
Bootsma will be the next Duigan apparently. You beauty.

 

[kreuze_missile]

Bootsma will not play in 2012.

 

[liam_13]

Bootsma will be the next Duigan apparently. You beauty.

Bootsma will not play in 2012.

Haha

A big problem is, if you start with 7 guns in your forward line, say:
Franklin, Johnson, Fyfe, Pavlich, Goodes, NRiewoldt, Martin...then what happens when a player like Zaharakis or Beams jumps up to being a top 3 forward..you have no way to fit them in, meaning you will be losing points.

I think a better way to take advantage of the best rookies is 4-3-2-5, so you take advantage of the back rookies (5) and mid (5), while still having room to upgrade to players who may turn out to be absolute premiums.