Adelaide’s Young Talent

[Embers]

The talent gap between Judd and the rest is quite extraordinary. Looks like the Weagles Judd one-man-game plan is set to continue into 2007. When you have to include players like Seaby, Selwood, Jones, Graham and Lynch into a list discussing "talent" you know you're in a spot of trouble.

Yah.

 

[fryingpan]

If Douglas is pacy then Judd is a ********ing jet engine. Thats what im talking about in terms of pace. Has he got that acceleration. Nope. All of your midfielders bar Knights are under 185cm. Who the hell is gonna mark the ball in the midfield.

Why does he have to be compared to Judd? Of course he's nowhere near Judd FFS. Douglas may not be as quick as Judd (but who is?) but belive me, he is quick.

Maric is your Cain Ackland type. Rucks a bit but club will be hoping he improves around the ground so he can be a option up forward. Meesen is your normal ruckmen but at 199cm wil struggle against the taller more athletic Cox Sandilands and co.

How can you compare a 1 year player to some hack who has been to 10 different clubs? Come back in 5 years then you can rate Maric with another ruckman. As for Meesen, how do you know that? Again, have you seen him play SANFL? Seen him train? NO.

If were including 24 year olds then Eagles young list would be

Judd Kerr Butler Waters Nicoski Lynch Hansen Staker Graham Armstrong Hurn B.Jones LeCras Morton Priddis Rosa Sampi Selwood Seaby not including our draftees of last year or players yet to debut. Can we see the difference yet

LMFAO @ M. LeCras. Morton? Priddis?

 

[Gets!]

Judd Kerr Butler Waters Nicoski Lynch Hansen Staker Graham Armstrong Hurn B.Jones LeCras Morton Priddis Rosa Sampi Selwood Seaby not including our draftees of last year or players yet to debut. Can we see the difference yet

Who?

And Sampi? ROFL.

 

[Embers]

Who?

And Sampi? ROFL.

You dont know who the Armstrong and Brett Jones are . Just wow. Both have premiership medallions btw

South Aussies know all about Hurn

Priddis won the WAFL version of the Brownlow. Did Douglas or any other of your reserve players in the history of your club do that

LeCras Morton are project players and we all know what Sampi is capable of if he can ever get himself fit but even if he doesnt make it no big loss. We have the depth to cover one mistake.

 

[Embers]

Why does he have to be compared to Judd? Of course he's nowhere near Judd FFS. Douglas may not be as quick as Judd (but who is?) but belive me, he is quick.



How can you compare a 1 year player to some hack who has been to 10 different clubs? Come back in 5 years then you can rate Maric with another ruckman. As for Meesen, how do you know that? Again, have you seen him play SANFL? Seen him train? NO.



LMFAO @ M. LeCras. Morton? Priddis?

Because everyone will be compared to Judd by a Eagles fans. Its the privilege we have in having him as a player

Im comparing him in style. Maric should be better then Ackland who is a utter hack but I cant see Maric slotting in as no 1 ruckmen anytime soon, can you.

 

[fryingpan]

Because everyone will be compared to Judd by a Eagles fans. Its the privilege we have in having him as a player

Im comparing him in style. Maric should be better then Ackland who is a utter hack but I cant see Maric slotting in as no 1 ruckmen anytime soon, can you.

A one year player should already be better than Ackland? I know Ackland is a hack but give Maric a couple more years FFS.

And no, he probably can't slot into #1 ruckman anytime soon seeing as Hudson is dominating and ATM is our first choice. Maric will be great support though and will eventually take over as #1 ruckman.

 

[Embers]

A one year player should already be better than Ackland? I know Ackland is a hack but give Maric a couple more years FFS.

And no, he probably can't slot into #1 ruckman anytime soon seeing as Hudson is dominating and ATM is our first choice. Maric will be great support though and will eventually take over as #1 ruckman.

Yeh Ackland is the worst player ever. Marics better trust me . Surely you can see the abundance of ruckmen espeically young ones on your list. You have like six

 

[F-U]

Quality over quantity.

Other clubs have more youngsters but I would rather have more better youngsters.

Douglas, Sellar, Pfeiffer, Mackay, Bock, Rutten, Porplyzia, Knights, Vince, Maric, Meesen, Mcintyre, Archard, Hinge, van Berlo.

Quality.

You know your youngsters are ordinary when you include rookie listed players and 7 players yet to debut. Is their a option above terrible because the word terrible doesnt do them justice. They are way worse then that. The ten year bottom 8 adventure begins in 07 for the Crows thanks to that list

 

[parrot]

You know your youngsters are ordinary when you include rookie listed players and 7 players yet to debut. Is their a option above terrible because the word terrible doesnt do them justice. They are way worse then that. The ten year bottom 8 adventure begins in 07 for the Crows thanks to that list

While lacking in quantity and quality, I really don't think the Crows younger players are that much worse the Juddless Weagles collection. The Weagles talent gap after Judd, just gets wider.

 

[F-U]

While lacking in quantity and quality, I really don't think the Crows younger players are that much worse the Juddless Weagles collection. The Weagles talent gap after Judd, just gets wider.

They really do lack both. Not too disimilar to Carlton are Adelaide in many ways. Rely on the older types such as in your case Kouta Fevola Whitnall and Stevens to carry a ordinary bunch of youngsters. Unfortunately for Carlton unlike Adelaide they have the worst veterans in the game and they could only carry there ordinary youngsters to a 2nd spoon. Its a shame that Carlton will have to wait another 10 years to experience finals footy but those are the breaks when you are ruled cheaters of the game.

 

[parrot]

They really do lack both..

Yes, hence the parallels with the Weagles current list. Would be interesting to see how far the Weagles would fall without Judd. The general consensus is 3-4 ladder spots. I think 7-8 spots is not out of the question especially when you see players like Seaby in action.

 

[F-U]

Yes, hence the parallels with the Weagles current list. Would be interesting to see how far the Weagles would fall without Judd. The general consensus is 3-4 ladder spots. I think 7-8 spots is not out of the question especially when you see players like Seaby in action.

I disagree. Eagles won 3 out of 4 games last year without Judd including there finest victory ever over Geelong. Carlton on the other hand have shown there team as a one man band especially with Fevola. Only team in history to have a Coleman medalsit with a wooden spoon which really does indicate just how horrible the players around Fevola are. Fevola missed one game last season and Carlton easily lost it. It was the same the year before hand

If Fevola gets a serious injury not only will it ruin the club but it will be the death of the Carlton football club as there fans continue to abandon the club in droves. Its sad its come to this but without Fevola Carlton FC wouldnt exist as a club anymore

 

[fryingpan]

Yeh Ackland is the worst player ever. Marics better trust me . Surely you can see the abundance of ruckmen espeically young ones on your list. You have like six

Hudson, Maric, Meesen, Griffen.

Hinge and Sellar both wouldn't be competing for ruck spots seeing as, well, Hinge isn't a ruckman, remember that next time you try and look as though you know what you're talking about.

Biglands is injured and needs to be covered somehow.

Hudson #1 Ruckman and Maric playing a supporting role. Meesen and Griffen are 2 developing ruckman, a total of 4. I see no problem

 

[parrot]

...including there finest victory ever over Geelong....

Was shaky at best. It really brought home how dependent the Weagles are on Judd. We have never seen a teams reliance on one player to such a degree, since Carey in the late 1990's. I guess it works, and ultimately that's all that counts. The Weagles post-Judd talent level tapers so heavily, JW's Plan B will always be a concern.

 

[F-U]

Was shaky at best. It really brought home how dependent the Weagles are on Judd. We have never seen a teams reliance on one player to such a degree, since Carey in the late 1990's. I guess it works, and ultimately that's all that counts. The Weagles post-Judd talent level tapers so heavily, JW's Plan B will always be a concern.

Doesnt matter how much you win by in the end, they won something Carlton are failing to do. Something Carlton have shown a severe lack of ability to do without Fevola. We all remember the spray he got when he got suspended a year or too back. Pagan knew his team cant win a game without Fevola and he was 100% right.

 

[parrot]

Doesnt matter how much you win by in the end,...

It does because it re-highlights the Weagles absolute dependence on Judd, and the massive post-Judd talent-gap

 

[F-U]

It does because it re-highlights the Weagles absolute dependence on Judd.

Well 3 wins out of 4 isnt bad. We nearly matched your entire win/loss tally for the year without Judd but unfortunately he wanted to come back and play. Same cant be said to Fevola who even said he was happy the year was over. A unhappy camper he is. How long before we think he abandons ship?

 

[parrot]

... without Judd but unfortunately he wanted to come back and play....

The problem will be if Judd is out for a considerable length of time. Hopefully that won't happen, but the Weagles quality after Judd is highly questionable and very over-rated as we have seen. JW's Judd-one-man-game-plan is fine, but Plan B will always be the concern.

 

[F-U]

The problem will be if Judd is out for a considerable length of time. Hopefully that won't happen, but the Weagles quality after Judd is highly questionable and very over-rated as we have seen. JW's Judd-one-man-game-plan is fine, but Plan B will always be the concern.

We will get him back and he will play again. If Fev went down tomorrow with a knee injury to end his year by the time his knee was fixed Carlton will be on the next plane to the Gold Coast after there supporters left there team in there droves. If Judd goes down we miss him for a few games but he returns. If Fev goes down the Carlton football club ceases to exist and is moved to the Gold Coast. I think we all know who has more to lose here especially since Eagles have shown there ability to win without Judd with a 75% winning record for 06.

 

[Smell The Glove]

Meeson and Porplyzia look good. Sellar is untried and, apart from appearing to be a bit of a tool, looks to have a fair bit of talent. Rutten is still reasonably young and has the runs on the board. Thats it. Any Adelaide supporter who thinks guys like Van Berlo, Douglas, Vince etc. are going to take the AFL by storm are delusional.

 

[parrot]

We will get him back and he will play again....

The point is though, there is huge talent gap between Judd and the rest of the Weagles list. You might be able to restrict the damage with a 3-4 week absence, but anything longer than that would lead to a significant ladder slide. I wouldn't be too concerned thought, as Judd will probably play every game. But you never know.

 

[F-U]

The point is though, there is huge talent gap between Judd and the rest of the Weagles list. You might be able to restrict the damage with a 3-4 week absence, but anything longer than that would lead to a significant ladder slide. I wouldn't be too concerned thought, as Judd will probably play every game. But you never know.

Selective quoting wont make the problem go away parrot. I guess its hard to realise. If Judd goes down we have a Brownlow medalist in Ben Cousins as backup. If Fevola goes down they have ??? A irish failure in O Hailpin or a overrated injury prone youngster in Josh Kennedy whose played more games then goals. Not much backup there at all. Enough to send the Carlton club to Gold Coast permanentely

 

[parrot]

... If Judd goes down we have a Brownlow medalist in Ben Cousins as backup. ...

If Judd goes down, you'll drop 7-8 spots if he's out for say 16 games. Again, I hope this doesn't happen, but the Weagles heavy reliance on Judd always puts them on a knife-edge I guess i.e no Plan B.

 

[CrazyQ]

Probably.

Richmond have Deledio, Raines and Polo though, three young players which would be better than any of Adelaide's.

I dont rate Polo as high as Raines or Deledio, heck even Tambling.

Polo doesnt have the best disposal, he reminds me abit like Tuck, he will be a very solid footballer, just not a superstar like a Lids or Raines type.

I'd take Douglas over Polo.

 

[fryingpan]

Meeson and Porplyzia look good. Sellar is untried and, apart from appearing to be a bit of a tool, looks to have a fair bit of talent. Rutten is still reasonably young and has the runs on the board. Thats it. Any Adelaide supporter who thinks guys like Van Berlo, Douglas, Vince etc. are going to take the AFL by storm are delusional.

van Berlo dominated in the trial game. BOG by a long way. Has also bulked up and looking fitter than ever. Disposal was amazing on Friday.

Big things ahead for van Berlo!!