Autopsy Afl 2025 Round 2 - Blues v Hawks Thurs March 20th 7:30pm AEDT (MCG)

[Cdog71]

Not enough weapons for the Blues.
The only player to get into the bests last two weeks who wasn’t a stoppage player is Weidering last week.
Going to need more than that to win a couple of finals

 

[Aucklander]

Hawthorn are a bloody good watch.

 

[JackFlash]

Ball movement killed the Blues as expected, Carlton are playing a style of game not suited to this era. They will struggle this year unless they change their style of play.

 

[Leeda]

Well I thoroughly enjoyed the entire game.
But then I do like eating broccoli and brussel sprouts too.

Juniper trees gives a sight that is canny

 

[Frank Thring]

Did BT just see some Sudanese fellows and think of Gout Gout or was Gout there or does BT think all Sudanese look the same???

BT is a racist bogun.

 

[rei154]

I watched the entire game and any time Carlton looked like they were pulling away or gaining momentum there was a very soft free kick paid.

Granted some were there by the letter of the law but it’s just typical for the umpires to start being so thorough when they feel like it.

Cheer up, mate!

This works out well for you- when we trade this years first and a couple extras for Harley, Carlton's first is going to be worth more to you because of this game

 

[Stottzy]

The total free kick count is irrelevant in my opinion. There will be well umpired games that only have 30 free kicks paid and then there will also be well umpired games that have 60 free kicks paid. Umpiring should be evaluated on the quality of decision making and their consistency within games not the number of free kicks they pay.

This. I've been to games where they've been 20 paid and they weren't calling anything. Terrible! Hate the line "put the whistle away". If the frees there, pay it. In 1970, free kick count had a average of 83.5 per game and yet this is regarded as a "golden decade" of football.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Ball movement killed the Blues as expected, Carlton are playing a style of game not suited to this era. They will struggle this year unless they change their style of play.

Do you see similarities in Hawthorn 2024/25 and Geelong 2007?

They seem to use wave running and lots of handballs to open up opportunistic scoring avenues via their smalls

 

[Mr Meow]

Do you see similarities in Hawthorn 2024/25 and Geelong 2007?

They seem to use wave running and lots of handballs to open up opportunistic scoring avenues via their smalls

Blasphemy!

Maybe a VFL version. But that could still be enough to win the comp.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Do you see similarities in Hawthorn 2024/25 and Geelong 2007?

They seem to use wave running and lots of handballs to open up opportunistic scoring avenues via their smalls

It's not really rocket science. Teams set up defensively to intercept the long kicks. If you run through them, the defence collapses. Hell, even Richmond in 2008 beat the hawks by running the ball

 

[Nvent]

This. I've been to games where they've been 20 paid and they weren't calling anything. Terrible! Hate the line "put the whistle away". If the frees there, pay it. In 1970, free kick count had a average of 83.5 per game and yet this is regarded as a "golden decade" of football.

No doubting Hawthorn got a great run the same the first two rounds. They’re the flavour of the month and the umps are rising along with it.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

No doubting Hawthorn got a great run the same the first two rounds. They’re the flavour of the month and the umps are rising along with it.

Ok, so can you provide quantified evidence of this? Not just "the vibe"

 

[carlton_99]

Ok, so can you provide quantified evidence of this? Not just "the vibe"

There is no such thing as quantitative evidence of bad umpiring

 

[Delisted]

Do you see similarities in Hawthorn 2024/25 and Geelong 2007?

They seem to use wave running and lots of handballs to open up opportunistic scoring avenues via their smalls

Our defence is much better. Forward break even.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

There is no such thing as quantitative evidence of bad umpiring

There absolutely is. It's a list of poor decisions. Given the amount that keep tabs on supposed hawthorn bias, there must be evidence

 

[carlton_99]

There absolutely is. It's a list of poor decisions. Given the amount that keep tabs on supposed hawthorn bias, there must be evidence

What a bad decision is is completely subjective for the most part

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

No doubting Hawthorn got a great run the same the first two rounds. They’re the flavour of the month and the umps are rising along with it.

Hope you enjoyed Josh Battles game.

 

[Leeda]

No doubting Hawthorn got a great run the same the first two rounds. They’re the flavour of the month and the umps are rising along with it.

Chumpy...ecstatic at my boys endeavours

 

[Mitchell Madness]

What a bad decision is is completely subjective for the most part

List them then. Let it be debated. 99% of all studies are subjective

 

[carlton_99]

List them then. Let it be debated. 99% of all studies are subjective

Why? If you thought the umpiring was fine then that's your right. I'm not rewatching the whole game to get time stamps of every wrong decision to show you. I was at the game and it was one of the worst officiated games I've been too. Regardles, either team could have won that game.

And not sure what studies you are referring to that are 99% subjective...

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Why? If you thought the umpiring was fine then that's your right. I'm not rewatching the whole game to get time stamps of every wrong decision to show you. I was at the game and it was one of the worst officiated games I've been too. Regardles, either team could have won that game.

And not sure what studies you are referring to that are 99% subjective...

All studies are subjective. That's how studies start. Then they research and present facts. Present the facts. Im keeping an open mind, but I doubt you'll present any fact

 

[Mr Meow]

Why? If you thought the umpiring was fine then that's your right. I'm not rewatching the whole game to get time stamps of every wrong decision to show you. I was at the game and it was one of the worst officiated games I've been too. Regardles, either team could have won that game.

And not sure what studies you are referring to that are 99% subjective...

Both teams ducked, flopped, dived and staged for free kicks consistently all night. Both sides were rewarded for it.

I didn't see it as a screw job to either team.

 

[carlton_99]

Both teams ducked, flopped, dived and staged for free kicks consistently all night. Both sides were rewarded for it.

I didn't see it as a screw job to either team.

I don't agree but like I said its all subjective. Everyone will have their own view. And as I've said even putting it aside it was still a winnable game for both sides.

 

[Mr Meow]

I don't agree but like I said its all subjective. Everyone will have their own view. And as I've said even putting it aside it was still a winnable game for both sides.

You thought Carlton were screwed?

Did you watch Hawthorn's previous two matches? They were much more favourable to Hawthorn (albeit the complaints were still overbearing) than this week. If anything Carlton played Hawthorn at their own game.

 

[carlton_99]

You thought Carlton were screwed?

Did you watch Hawthorn's previous two matches? They were much more favourable to Hawthorn (albeit the complaints were still overbearing) than this week.

I have watched both of Hawthorn's previous games but I'm not commenting on the umpiring from those games because it's irrelevant in a thread like this. I don't believe there is some conspiracy where umpires favour Hawthorn.