AFL keen to stop fans running on field

[kookadog]

It's also the legal ramifications they're afraid on.

If someone gets trampled to death then what? You think the relatives aren't going to come baying for blood? You think it won't tarnish the sport?

Somone can ignore the warnings at the beach and dive in shallow water and break their neck, legally no negligence.

As long as the AFL show a Duty of Care by telling people not to do it, if people ignore that warning then get injured, the AFL have not breached that Duty. No negligence.

This whole 'Legal' position is a myth, read the Civil Liability Act.

 

[Duggie]

it happens all the time after GAA matches no big deal but it would be mayhem during a game. lets say buddy kicks 100 just after half time in a game and thousands run on to the pitch, thats just chaos. trying to get it re-started again no ??

 

[thebaxters]

And if you feel you must charge onto the ground like a demented foot soldier, then try to consider how you would feel if you were on the ground and a thousand idiots came charging towards you. It's a dangerous practice. Don't do it.

Completely agree with the whole post, and especially this bit. Anyone stop to consider how the players are going to feel? Anyone ask Buddy if he WANTS a thousand people running at him? This is his sole livelihood - can't see he'd want to risk it.

It's complete bullshit. Would be sad to lose a great footy tradition due to unfounded paranoia.

Players walk the streets without security guards, they frequent nightclubs with drunk and drugged up bogans. What makes people think they're at any greater risk when some excited fans run on to celebrate a milestone? Ridiculous.

Because it's not one or two fans, it's a thousand. You'd back Buddy or any footballer to have the ability to fend off one or two, but none of them are good enough to keep out of the clutches of 1000+.

It's a rubbish tradition. It adds nothing to the game. It would be tolerable if it was just kids under the age of 14 and they gave him a pat on the back and then quickly went back to their seats. But most of these people are idiots, disrupting the game, larking about and trying to get their heads on television.

It's the mob mentality. We're not allowed on the ground. Look! 3,000 other people are running on! Perfect excuse! What are we waiting for? Let's go!

Spot on. I remember it being kids - not every toolbag who wants their 15 seconds. The mob mentality is real, and anyone not willing to cop a 5K fine any other game but is willing to jump the fence for this is just another mindless mob member.

The sort of idiot who ruined Terry Alderman's career in a pitch invasion in a test match some years back. It's only got to happen once, and then it's too late.

How would Hawks fans feel if Buddy kicked his 100th, then got injured in the crush & couldn't play in the finals?

Again, exactly. You pay your money to watch the guy play footy; so let him play footy. You getting involved adds nothing to his game, and only increases the risk he'll get injured and/or get put off his game. Bottom line is, the only pepole out on the ground during a game should be the ones who have earned their position there.

I remember the days at Lakeside as a kid, when half way through the last quater, us kids would eye each other off, looking for who was gonna be the first to jump the fence and sit inside the boundry line, usually chased back over by the cops, but by the last minute mark, the whole boundry would be full with kids ready to run on, great times indeed! Theres black and white footage from when the boundry was full of people waiting to run on, even finals, these times will never happen again, litigation etc, the whole worlds gone soft!

Key word here being kids, not 20-30-40-somethings wanting to get on TV. We're also dealing with professional sportsmen now, this is their livelihood.

 

[And_ROOS]

Can they fine 10,000 people?

Considering the price of food id say they already do

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

One thing that is interesting, will Buddy be on his 99th and nervous about what kicking the goal will mean? Would be pretty funny if he misses like 6 shots on his 99th.

Its pretty much a given he'll miss six set shots on his 99th, and his 98th, and his 100th etc etc.

 

[CrazyQ]

I'm going to all games where 100 is a chance.

The spliff is still on offer, Buddy.

 

[SweetLeftFoot]

It's complete bullshit. Would be sad to lose a great footy tradition due to unfounded paranoia.

Players walk the streets without security guards, they frequent nightclubs with drunk and drugged up bogans. What makes people think they're at any greater risk when some excited fans run on to celebrate a milestone? Ridiculous.

Sometimes ... drumroll ... they are the drunk and drugged up bogans. We need protected from them!

When I was a tiny little tacker of 6, my old man took me onto the ground when Blighty kicked his 100th. And I can remember running on when I was older when Dunstall or Ablett or Lockett did it against us, running on.

There was no danger, no element that the players would get hurt. And it was a great memory and experience for me as a kid.

 

[torchbearer38]

Fun Police at it again

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24171897-19742,00.html

The fun police are at it again, trying to stop a great Aussie tradition. Can they seriously stop this anywy if 20,000 people ran out on the ground Wouldn't it be better to whip him off the ground straight away?

I encourage all those at the ground to run on and stick it up the authorities!

 

[scottydeewah]

Re: Fun Police at it again

I think they will go very close on stopping it. My experience says that in the face of a lot of police and security people will talk the talk, then shit themselves and sit back down!

 

[The Sultan]

Re: Fun Police at it again

people were banned from running onto the ground when the final siren went so why should they be able to after a player kicks his 100th, it prob cost st-kilda a grand final apprerance against Port Adelaide, as the Saints has the run of play and the invation cost them some momentum. its a by gone tradition that needs to be forgotten.

The people who do are just morons who want to run on the ground and get a small thrill in of their boring little lives. anyone running on the ground should be beaten by police.

 

[FuManchu]

Re: Fun Police at it again

I can understand how pre pubescent kids would want to run on the ground and honour their heroes, well, i could understand it 30 years ago.

But in this day and age? Nah, kids dont worship anything other than themselves and to run onto the ground is just basically them telling the authorities that 'we love ourselves so much that there is nothing you can do to prevent us doing what we want'

What they should have is a few authorised thugs going around belting anyone in their 20's and above who run on, that will make 'em think twice.

 

[The Sultan]

people were banned from running onto the ground when the final siren went so why should they be able to after a player kicks his 100th, it prob cost st-kilda a grand final apprerance, as the Saints has the run of play and the invation cost them some momentum. its a by gone tradition that needs to be forgotten.

Like the cheer squads it used to be for the kids, now it about every braindead ******* trying to either get their ugly mugs on tv, or to "stick it up the afl".The people who do are just morons who want to run on the ground and get a small thrill in of their boring little lives. anyone running on the ground should be beaten by police.

 

[LoneStar]

Re: Fun Police at it again

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24171897-19742,00.html

The fun police are at it again, trying to stop a great Aussie tradition. Can they seriously stop this anywy if 20,000 people ran out on the ground Wouldn't it be better to whip him off the ground straight away?

I encourage all those at the ground to run on and stick it up the authorities!

It's past time this tradition went away! It's not a great Ausie tradition, it's a holdover from when the game was played on Saturday afternoons at suburban grounds in front of 17,000 people. The AFL is not the VFL. The culture & atmosphere of games has changed and a horde of peope rushing onto the oval cannot be trusted to behave themselves like they once did.
While you may want to stick it up the authorities, some nutjob may want to stick it up a player. They must stop this antiquated tradition before some player or supporter gets seriously injured, not as a reaction after an unfortunate incident has occurred! It's ridiculous to believe this is a ritual we are entitiled to continue!

 

[JeffDunne]

Why do people always bring up the 'momentum' issue in relation to the Saints/Port final as some sort of justification to stop it?

The state of the game isn't a reason to stop it.

Player safety is the only reason you'd stop it.

I was ticked at the AFL prior to the St Kilda/Port final because they basically encouraged people to do it. Since the game was in Adelaide, I doubt there'd have been much of an issue had the AFL not raised it. When Tony Lockett kicked his 100th at FP nobody ran onto the ground. IIRC, nobody ever ran onto Footy Park in those days even after the game. It wasn't an expectation people had.

Great tradition of the game that's unfortunately past it's used-by date.

 

[harmesy 37]

If they have security guards - the guys that wear yellow - to guard Buddy or hopefully Fev as well - then there is no problem.

I was there when Plugger kicked the 1300th and there was not ONE single incident.

Oh, but i forgot. The aim of the AFL is to make the game into a sanitised, homogonised clone of European sport. Ok, then in that case - let's ban it.

 

[The Sultan]

If they have security guards - the guys that wear yellow - to guard Buddy or hopefully Fev as well - then there is no problem.

I was there when Plugger kicked the 1300th and there was not ONE single incident.

Oh, but i forgot. The aim of the AFL is to make the game into a sanitised, homogonised clone of European sport. Ok, then in that case - let's ban it.

if buddy gets a guard why not every other player, the only way you can guarantee the safety of every player is to ban the people coming onto the ground, it does not happen in any other sport so why should we do it in AFL.

 

[JeffDunne]

it does not happen in any other sport so why should we do it in AFL.

That's not a reason to change anything about our game.

Quite the opposite IMO.

 

[Pessimistic]

When Lloyd kicked a ton against Richmond in that final - richmond fans invaded too and circled their players giving them strong verbal abuse.

So there is potential for an incident

 

[The dele larmer]

The AFL have got to be seen to do everything to stop you getting on the ground the Courts call it "DUTY OF CARE" ,the world we live is far different to 20 years ago with people prepared to take you to court at the drop of a hat!Secretly they see nothing wrong in celebrating a 100 goal mile stone but for legal reasons they have to play the negative role!Sad world we live in folks

 

[melb_will]

When Lloyd kicked a ton against Richmond in that final - richmond fans invaded too and circled their players giving them strong verbal abuse.

So there is potential for an incident

fixed

 

[melb_will]

The AFL have got to be seen to do everything to stop you getting on the ground the Courts call it "DUTY OF CARE" ,the world we live is far different to 20 years ago with people prepared to take you to court at the drop of a hat!Secretly they see nothing wrong in celebrating a 100 goal mile stone but for legal reasons they have to play the negative role!Sad world we live in folks

For one individual to sue the AFL it would take ~$50,000 and 2-3 years before they even got to court. Nobody sues anybody at the 'drop of a hat'

 

[The Sultan]

That's not a reason to change anything about our game.

Quite the opposite IMO.

didnt we used to run on the ground up until the mid 80's, until a player was assulted then the second siren rule was brought in. If you want to follow tradition and kick the ball/run on the grounds after a game go watch the VFL or amo's, if you want to watch a professional player/league then realise the we have moved on from the past and are in a different time the players are owed a duty of care not to have ten tousand people invading the ground, no matter how small the chances of something happening are.

whilst were at it, i think the run through banners should be banned. they have out live the usefullness.

 

[Chase the Ace]

Re: Fun Police at it again

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24171897-19742,00.html

The fun police are at it again, trying to stop a great Aussie tradition. Can they seriously stop this anywy if 20,000 people ran out on the ground Wouldn't it be better to whip him off the ground straight away?

I encourage all those at the ground to run on and stick it up the authorities!

Probably OK for you 13 year olds, but adults don't need to be out there.

Why not start a petition with the other kids at your school?

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Re: Fun Police at it again

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24171897-19742,00.html

The fun police are at it again, trying to stop a great Aussie tradition. Can they seriously stop this anywy if 20,000 people ran out on the ground Wouldn't it be better to whip him off the ground straight away?

I encourage all those at the ground to run on and stick it up the authorities!

I don't pay my money to watch a goose run onto the ground and disrupt the football. The public are not allowed onto the ground, simple as that. If you can't handle that, then stay away.

 

[Chodders]

Re: Fun Police at it again

I am actually with the Fun police but for the reason I see it as an unnecessary hold up to the game. I will use my team as an example:

Say for instance in round 22 Fev is close to 100 but has a bad day and hasn't kicked a goal and the Blues are down by 30 points or something. Suddenly he kicks three in five mins (which has happened this year) and Carl are back within two goals. That last goal is his 100th and there are 5,000 people trying to run onto the ground. Carlton potentially lose all momentum.

I know there are a lot of 'ifs' in that example, but this is the 21st century and I think the public running on the ground to 'pat a player on the back' in completely unnecessary.

They can stamp it out easily and state that anyone caught on the ground will receive the $5k fine and a criminal conviction (I believe this is what streakers at the G get). You would have only have to pick out 10 to 15 examples and it would be stamped out pretty quickly.