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Regardless of the Bakers Creek arrangement the Andergrove Senior team should be highly encourage and supported for the growth and development of afl in the andergrove, beacy and slade point area, but having said that it's no use starting a new club if it causes an exiting club to fold.
Theres two questions i pose , 1st one being have Backers Creek been to relient on the andergrove juniors being a feeder club to them and not worked hard enough to field their own junior teams concidering they have there own township plus Sarina down the road and small pocket towns along the beach and the highway, or question 2, is there just not enough afl interest in those areas and if Andergrove do field their own senior team Backers will eventually fold?
Theres no way i want to see any clubs fold , unless their a detriment to any league, but for the league to be healthy and afl to grow in mackay there needs to be more teams.
I know its easier said than done but thats just my opinion.
Some good points there regarding the Andergrove Kangaroos ,couldn't agree more.
If they were to enter the league the result would be the collapse of Bakers Creek who appear to be really struggling and this would be their demise.
Would be far more prudent IMO to assist Moranbah somehow to become more competitive.Better still would be to lock up a lucrative long term deal with Harrup Park that would see more games played there.
Regardless of the Bakers Creek arrangement the Andergrove Senior team should be highly encourage and supported for the growth and development of afl in the andergrove, beacy and slade point area, but having said that it's no use starting a new club if it causes an exiting club to fold.
Theres two questions i pose , 1st one being have Backers Creek been to relient on the andergrove juniors being a feeder club to them and not worked hard enough to field their own junior teams concidering they have there own township plus Sarina down the road and small pocket towns along the beach and the highway, or question 2, is there just not enough afl interest in those areas and if Andergrove do field their own senior team Backers will eventually fold?
Theres no way i want to see any clubs fold , unless their a detriment to any league, but for the league to be healthy and afl to grow in mackay there needs to be more teams.
I know its easier said than done but thats just my opinion.
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I think Andergrove should have to start of in the reserves. It would mean that the ressies dont have the Mooroonbah bye and gives Andergrove a chance to get them selves sorted and set up.
I think Andergrove should have to start of in the reserves. It would mean that the ressies dont have the Mooroonbah bye and gives Andergrove a chance to get them selves sorted and set up.
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From memory the name change to Whitsunday occured in 1990,with the club winning 4 Senior flags from 1993-1996.There were some powehouse teams then with some of the best players the League has seen before or since.
I agree that is the way to go and is the way your own club got a start actually winning 5 consecutive Reserve Grade flags from 1985-1989.
From memory the name change to Whitsunday occured in 1990,with the club winning 4 Senior flags from 1993-1996.There were some powehouse teams then with some of the best players the League has seen before or since.
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I went to league meeting last Wednesday, and it was suggested to the potential Andergrove prez that they should enter a team in the reserves 1st but his arguemnt was that their sponors would only come onboard
if they fielded a senior team with the aim to have reserves aswell by 2011. I reckon it would be hard to recruit quality players to their club if they only had a reserves when the player could play seniors else where, plus
from a sponors view i'd be reluctant to sponsor a reserves only side.
I express my concern to the prez in regards to player retention mid way through the season if they were consistantly losing by a conciderable amount.
The above statement was only from my observation that Andergrove may struggle early on due the team being made up of mainly this seasons 18's side moving to open age plus what ever local recruits they get to make up the numbers.
Bakers coach stated that they would lose 7 feeder players to Andergrove if they were to enter a senior team and declared they would have to forfiet their reserves team for season 2010.
I can definately see the upside to Andergrove entering a senior team next season but at what cost to the other Mackay teams is uknown until it happened.
I went to league meeting last Wednesday, and it was suggested to the potential Andergrove prez that they should enter a team in the reserves 1st but his arguemnt was that their sponors would only come onboard
if they fielded a senior team with the aim to have reserves aswell by 2011. I reckon it would be hard to recruit quality players to their club if they only had a reserves when the player could play seniors else where, plus
from a sponors view i'd be reluctant to sponsor a reserves only side.
I express my concern to the prez in regards to player retention mid way through the season if they were consistantly losing by a conciderable amount.
The above statement was only from my observation that Andergrove may struggle early on due the team being made up of mainly this seasons 18's side moving to open age plus what ever local recruits they get to make up the numbers.
Bakers coach stated that they would lose 7 feeder players to Andergrove if they were to enter a senior team and declared they would have to forfiet their reserves team for season 2010.
I can definately see the upside to Andergrove entering a senior team next season but at what cost to the other Mackay teams is uknown until it happened.
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pretty sure most of heard andergrove was ruled against by all senior clubs at the last league meeting. i seen it copming from day 1 hearing that andergrove was starting a side. from what i have heard as a player from other players, bakers wasnt tha only club to lose players. alot of players from city clubs were really keen to leave so ofcourse the clubs were going to vote against andergove. as much as i would love to see more teams in the league we need more interest from more players so clubs dont struggle with numbers and angergrove can enter the league
pretty sure most of heard andergrove was ruled against by all senior clubs at the last league meeting. i seen it copming from day 1 hearing that andergrove was starting a side. from what i have heard as a player from other players, bakers wasnt tha only club to lose players. alot of players from city clubs were really keen to leave so ofcourse the clubs were going to vote against andergove. as much as i would love to see more teams in the league we need more interest from more players so clubs dont struggle with numbers and angergrove can enter the league
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Yeah fair point, it would've been good for Andergrove to get in but at what expense to the other clubs was always the concern.
I think there's still the option for Andergrove to enter a side in next season reserve grade if thats the road they want to go down.
Yeah fair point, it would've been good for Andergrove to get in but at what expense to the other clubs was always the concern.
I think there's still the option for Andergrove to enter a side in next season reserve grade if thats the road they want to go down.
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Would be good to see them admitted in some grade because i dont think yhe Creekers are going to show much improvement going by what was happening there this year.
Would be good to see them admitted in some grade because i dont think yhe Creekers are going to show much improvement going by what was happening there this year.
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I think everyone should take deep breath regarding the roos senior team.
Bakers Creek won't loose any Andergrove players that they wern't going to loose any way. They may have had 7 players listed, but they only had 3 regular kids playing, two have left Mackay and won't be playing in Mackay next year and the third from my understanding wont be staying at Bakers no matter what happens, the rest of those kids will not play afl football unless it is for roos. They were all ANDERGROVE PLAYERS TO BEGIN WITH!!!
2 of the existing clubs supported the application 4 did not, the vote was 6 to 4 in favour of the rooers! If the Andergrove application is ruled no, 13 former under 18's will be lost, they will return to soccer,league,union and basket ball!!!
I believe the roos now have a list of approx 35 players including the former 18's none registered in Mackay. Come on Mackay get the Roos in as a senior team and lets raise the bar for all clubs to follow!!!!!
I think everyone should take deep breath regarding the roos senior team.
Bakers Creek won't loose any Andergrove players that they wern't going to loose any way. They may have had 7 players listed, but they only had 3 regular kids playing, two have left Mackay and won't be playing in Mackay next year and the third from my understanding wont be staying at Bakers no matter what happens, the rest of those kids will not play afl football unless it is for roos. They were all ANDERGROVE PLAYERS TO BEGIN WITH!!!
2 of the existing clubs supported the application 4 did not, the vote was 6 to 4 in favour of the rooers! If the Andergrove application is ruled no, 13 former under 18's will be lost, they will return to soccer,league,union and basket ball!!!
I believe the roos now have a list of approx 35 players including the former 18's none registered in Mackay. Come on Mackay get the Roos in as a senior team and lets raise the bar for all clubs to follow!!!!!
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if you were to look back at how Andergrove came to be playing at the Creek and the lack of support from Bakers to A'grove and to their own Juniors that they had at the time, you would see, despite some very well meaning and hard working people at the club, that they have been going down a road of internal destruction, for some time. reportedly over 100 registered players last season and could not field a reserves team!!!!????
arguably the best surface in the comp to play on.
bring the Roo's in and let the cards fall where they may
if you were to look back at how Andergrove came to be playing at the Creek and the lack of support from Bakers to A'grove and to their own Juniors that they had at the time, you would see, despite some very well meaning and hard working people at the club, that they have been going down a road of internal destruction, for some time. reportedly over 100 registered players last season and could not field a reserves team!!!!????
arguably the best surface in the comp to play on.
bring the Roo's in and let the cards fall where they may
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Did i here correctly on the radio this morning that Andergrove will join the league next season as a reserves side to Mooranbah.
POSITIVES- It gives Andergrove approximately 16months to get a home ground and facilities up to scratch before entering senior team in 2011.
You would presume the will make the reserve finals.
It gives them a season to develop a list.
It makes the reserve comp more stable.
There should be now 3 games on a saturday when playing Mooranbah instead of 1.
NEGATIVES- Having to travell to Mooranbah every second week.
Possably not being able to secure potential senior players being only a reserve side.
DELIMERS- Gate takings, canteen etc..revenue. I wonder what the financial arrangement will be with the extra profits Andergrove will bring to a Mooranbah home game with the reserves and thirds playing there now aslo.
Will Mooranbah have access to the Andergrove reserve players if there short due to injuries or unavailabilty and if an Andergrove reserve playing is performong will he be promoted to the Mooranbah seniors or will both clubs have seperate player lists.
How would the above effect the eligabilty for players qualifying for finals in either grade.
Would like to hear the opinion of any Andergrove members or followers on here to what they think , i personally think its a big positive for league and Mackay football in general and as much as Andergrove's preference was to be a stand alone senior team i think this is the better approach for the long term of the clubs existance.
Now if Pioneer valley 18's play before Bakers Creek reserves, presuming they have a reserve team, there will be 3 teams v 3 teams every saturday which will boost crowd numbers and revenue for home games just what the all clubs need.
Did i here correctly on the radio this morning that Andergrove will join the league next season as a reserves side to Mooranbah.
POSITIVES- It gives Andergrove approximately 16months to get a home ground and facilities up to scratch before entering senior team in 2011.
You would presume the will make the reserve finals.
It gives them a season to develop a list.
It makes the reserve comp more stable.
There should be now 3 games on a saturday when playing Mooranbah instead of 1.
NEGATIVES- Having to travell to Mooranbah every second week.
Possably not being able to secure potential senior players being only a reserve side.
DELIMERS- Gate takings, canteen etc..revenue. I wonder what the financial arrangement will be with the extra profits Andergrove will bring to a Mooranbah home game with the reserves and thirds playing there now aslo.
Will Mooranbah have access to the Andergrove reserve players if there short due to injuries or unavailabilty and if an Andergrove reserve playing is performong will he be promoted to the Mooranbah seniors or will both clubs have seperate player lists.
How would the above effect the eligabilty for players qualifying for finals in either grade.
Would like to hear the opinion of any Andergrove members or followers on here to what they think , i personally think its a big positive for league and Mackay football in general and as much as Andergrove's preference was to be a stand alone senior team i think this is the better approach for the long term of the clubs existance.
Now if Pioneer valley 18's play before Bakers Creek reserves, presuming they have a reserve team, there will be 3 teams v 3 teams every saturday which will boost crowd numbers and revenue for home games just what the all clubs need.
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Personally i struggle to see how playing two reserve grade standard teams in Moranbah can possibly help football in Mackay grow or develope.
Surely it would be wiser to have a team playing in the high growth Northern Beaches area rather than out at a coal mine.Can not see any logic behind this decision at all.....How long does anyone think they will hold their young group of players together travelling all the way out there and playing away from family and friends?
All this while the Creekers most likely wont even field a Reserve grade team and will continue to be an undisciplned rabble.
Someone hasn't done their homework on this decision.
Personally i struggle to see how playing two reserve grade standard teams in Moranbah can possibly help football in Mackay grow or develope.
Surely it would be wiser to have a team playing in the high growth Northern Beaches area rather than out at a coal mine.Can not see any logic behind this decision at all.....How long does anyone think they will hold their young group of players together travelling all the way out there and playing away from family and friends?
All this while the Creekers most likely wont even field a Reserve grade team and will continue to be an undisciplned rabble.
Someone hasn't done their homework on this decision.
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Wishing a happy,healthy and prosperous new year to everyone reading AFL Mackay......go Swannies....
Wishing a happy,healthy and prosperous new year to everyone reading AFL Mackay......go Swannies....
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Has Nth Mackay & Whitsunday annouced there coach for this season yet?
Has Nth Mackay & Whitsunday annouced there coach for this season yet?
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He played mostly at full back i think and has coached their under 18,s for the past few seasons.
Dunno about Whitsunday but North's new coach is Scott Thomas ,a blond headed fellow who has been at the clyb for a few years.
He played mostly at full back i think and has coached their under 18,s for the past few seasons.
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Gav got the job for the Sea Eagles. Training kicks off Monday night. The club had a working bee today at the club rooms and 25 players turned out to help out which is a good start to the year.
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Mangoplah participates in the Riverina Football League which is the strongest league in the Riverina MIA region. The club has a proud history and with our strong junior base are looking to add to that in 2010.
The goannas have retained all players from last year and appointed two more and feel that a couple more experienced footballers would help us take the next step.
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Does any one know if Jason Kelly is coaching the Hawkes again?
Does any one know if Jason Kelly is coaching the Hawkes again?
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i just rad thru the past few months of posts and read the mention on wat plays from andergrove 18s played at bakers last yr and how they were all original roo's. well that is not true as mark henwood and nick muscat are both signed with bakers and i beleive jaebyn drefke and brian adams have signed with bakers again for the 2010 season. mathew hungerford is off the brisbane due to uni but has been training at bakers, young clergy has gone 2 the army. they were the only 18s to play for bakers last season. i would just like to say if the players that have signed again and trained pre-season there got treated like crap by bakers y r they bak?? some one needs 2 get facts right i think instead of down talking bakers, yes they have problems and the end of the yr for them was rather dissapointing but brad the 2010 coach knows wat he is doing and i think will bring discipline and change to the club which is what they desperately need. also many new faces on the committee, dont get 2 far ahead on how bad bakers is just yet
i just rad thru the past few months of posts and read the mention on wat plays from andergrove 18s played at bakers last yr and how they were all original roo's. well that is not true as mark henwood and nick muscat are both signed with bakers and i beleive jaebyn drefke and brian adams have signed with bakers again for the 2010 season. mathew hungerford is off the brisbane due to uni but has been training at bakers, young clergy has gone 2 the army. they were the only 18s to play for bakers last season. i would just like to say if the players that have signed again and trained pre-season there got treated like crap by bakers y r they bak?? some one needs 2 get facts right i think instead of down talking bakers, yes they have problems and the end of the yr for them was rather dissapointing but brad the 2010 coach knows wat he is doing and i think will bring discipline and change to the club which is what they desperately need. also many new faces on the committee, dont get 2 far ahead on how bad bakers is just yet
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I see in todays newspaper andergrove have pulled the pin on a reserve side. They are weak as piss, they pulled out cause they didn't get there own way. I think the league board had the right idea for them get established in the reserves and then come up into the senior comp. When moranbah wanted to enter a team they had to play as Bakers creek reserves in 2005 for the whole season and play all home games at bakers, no home games in mornabah. They didn't worry just got on with it and played. Andergrove said a factor was having to travel 6 times to mornabah to play home games, its not that big an issue seeing as though whitsunday and moranbah travel every second week. But like all mackay sides they just don't like to travel.
I see in todays newspaper andergrove have pulled the pin on a reserve side. They are weak as piss, they pulled out cause they didn't get there own way. I think the league board had the right idea for them get established in the reserves and then come up into the senior comp. When moranbah wanted to enter a team they had to play as Bakers creek reserves in 2005 for the whole season and play all home games at bakers, no home games in mornabah. They didn't worry just got on with it and played. Andergrove said a factor was having to travel 6 times to mornabah to play home games, its not that big an issue seeing as though whitsunday and moranbah travel every second week. But like all mackay sides they just don't like to travel.
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I raise your Mackay sides don't like to travel and give you a "Queensland Country" sides don't like to travel.
I raise your Mackay sides don't like to travel and give you a "Queensland Country" sides don't like to travel.
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Would like to see Bakers Creek return to their former glory years but don't think there is much chance of that happening.
Don't think the club has produced a home grown player for over 20 years.
As far as teams travelling goes ,Airlie is a popular destination for obvious reasons while Moranbah is not attractive to anyone unless you are heading off to your highly paid job in a coal mine.
This ''arrangement''was never going to work'' and didn't give Andergrove a realistic chance of getting on the ground.Personally i struggle to see how playing two reserve grade standard teams in Moranbah can possibly help football in Mackay grow or develope.
Surely it would be wiser to have a team playing in the high growth Northern Beaches area rather than out at a coal mine.Can not see any logic behind this decision at all.....How long does anyone think they will hold their young group of players together travelling all the way out there and playing away from family and friends?
All this while the Creekers most likely wont even field a Reserve grade team and will continue to be an undisciplned rabble.
Someone hasn't done their homework on this decision.
Would like to see Bakers Creek return to their former glory years but don't think there is much chance of that happening.
Don't think the club has produced a home grown player for over 20 years.
As far as teams travelling goes ,Airlie is a popular destination for obvious reasons while Moranbah is not attractive to anyone unless you are heading off to your highly paid job in a coal mine.
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P.S. good to see some activity happening on this site at last.
P.S. good to see some activity happening on this site at last.
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Congrat's, your one of the footy dinosaurs that keeps the Mackay league just the way it is!! We can only do things certain ways cause thats the way we have always done it!! We can all see how successful Moranbah and Bakers have been on the field in recent years and of cause there're future is so bright you want to force Andergrove to do it that way aswell?? No disrespect to either club but they have no junoirs so for the league to treat Andergrove the same as either of those clubs is not looking at the big picture!! i'm told the only way Andergrove would get to come home on a permanent basis was when they had both reserve and senior teams, how many years would that take??? Wake up to yourself and look around because your kind are nearly extinct!!! The plans for progress are under way!!!