AFL Rd 12 - Other Games Discussion

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Topkent

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Oliver doesn't have Cripps' size. Will never hold a candle to Cripps or Bont really.
Sure physically they aren't similar, neither is Danger. It's those guys want to be a match winner and not just a contributor.
 

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Two years is a long, long time when you're talking about a 21 and a 23 year old. Cripps is best in the league and Oliver has come out slow this year after the double reco. Both were top 10 last year.
 

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Yes but strange things happen. Look at Richmond had an absolute dream run with injuries and were clearly the dominant side last year but choked in the preliminary final.
Injuries are a piss poor excuse, just ask Topkent.
 

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Er Greg Williams was a slow fat **** who went on to become a great . Once Oliver realises he is not under as much pressure as he thinks he is he will return to the Oliver we saw in his first 2 years.
Yep. And Oliver is neither fat or slow. He's shed so much weight and clearly has self-driven elite standards. He's been average this year, but that happens after two shoulder recos in a row. Cripps had a slow 2017 due to injuries as well.
 

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I know it's round 13 but I didn't see a thread for it. Watching North Melbourne recover their season and even Carlton managing to get to 100 second time this season I'm only confident that we are only better than gold coast this season. We really need some confidence after the bye because we look way off.
 

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I know it's round 13 but I didn't see a thread for it. Watching North Melbourne recover their season and even Carlton managing to get to 100 second time this season I'm only confident that we are only better than gold coast this season. We really need some confidence after the bye because we look way off.
Should shore up the defense with May and Lever back but I don't see other forward line de-shambling itself any time soon.
 

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I know it's round 13 but I didn't see a thread for it. Watching North Melbourne recover their season and even Carlton managing to get to 100 second time this season I'm only confident that we are only better than gold coast this season. We really need some confidence after the bye because we look way off.
The game last night was trash. Bulldogs are the only side in the comp with worse coaching than us.
 

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I know it's round 13 but I didn't see a thread for it. Watching North Melbourne recover their season and even Carlton managing to get to 100 second time this season I'm only confident that we are only better than gold coast this season. We really need some confidence after the bye because we look way off.
I actually think we're the worst side in the comp, GC have honestly had a real crack this year with a FAR weaker list than us.
 

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He's not sackable but there hasnt been enough asked of Bevos coaching.

A 6th and a 7th placed finish and then looking like 3 years out of the finals. The premiership is amazing and hard to ignore but they haven't really been able to progress at all since the flag
 

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He's not sackable but there hasnt been enough asked of Bevos coaching.

A 6th and a 7th placed finish and then looking like 3 years out of the finals. The premiership is amazing and hard to ignore but they haven't really been able to progress at all since the flag
They've got an exceptionally young team still, I reckon they're tracking OK. 2020 is when the pressure should be on.
 

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They have way too much talent to be playing the way they are for this long. Players have no idea week to week - sometimes they look amazing, sometimes hopeless.
 

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Watched until quarter time of the North vs gws game. Rubbish umpiring, listening to derrrwayyne commentating, and the unwatchable nature of the match in general.

Turned over and watched the second half of vfl port Melbourne vs Williamstown. Was a hell of a lot better to watch. The umpiring was unnoticeable, the skills were actually really good. The game was fairly open, and to end stuff. First game I've watched all year that has actually looked like football.
 

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Watched until quarter time of the North vs gws game. Rubbish umpiring, listening to derrrwayyne commentating, and the unwatchable nature of the match in general.

Turned over and watched the second half of vfl port Melbourne vs Williamstown. Was a hell of a lot better to watch. The umpiring was unnoticeable, the skills were actually really good. The game was fairly open, and to end stuff. First game I've watched all year that has actually looked like football.
Exact same rules. Skills are better because fitness standard is lower meaning coaches can't implement high pressure defensive strategies, which leads to fewer stoppages and fewer opportunities for umpiring deliberations.
 

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Exact same rules. Skills are better because fitness standard is lower meaning coaches can't implement high pressure defensive strategies, which leads to fewer stoppages and fewer opportunities for umpiring deliberations.
I can't understand people who think that the skills will drop away if you make players tired. Its crap. Space = more skills. Perceived pressure is the killer not how tired someone is.

**** rotations right off I'd say
 

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I can't understand people who think that the skills will drop away if you make players tired. Its crap. Space = more skills. Perceived pressure is the killer not how tired someone is.

**** rotations right off I'd say
Problem is clubs will just push even harder for the guy that can run over the guy who can kick.
 

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Problem is clubs will just push even harder for the guy that can run over the guy who can kick.
There's a tipping point though. Tom Bugg could run all day but he ain't getting the opportunity Petracca has. Richmond and WC have been full of footballers not athletes aswell and Geelong are the same.
 

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Exact same rules. Skills are better because fitness standard is lower meaning coaches can't implement high pressure defensive strategies, which leads to fewer stoppages and fewer opportunities for umpiring deliberations.
Maybe so, but whilst the rules are the same, there was no overumpiring, no calling of pathetic ruck infringments or minor 1 on 1 infringemnts that are in the seniors.

Agree with topkent, rotations should be capped a lot lower. If that happens, how we've drafted for 5 years will push us from 16th to 18th though.
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