Boxhead_31
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Same could be said about the EFC fanbois not buying into an EFC player returning a "Sky High" TB4 test result could it not?
AFL TARGETED HIRD
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DrEvil_
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Standby for a Bruce spray
Muggs
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Why not? WADA themselves backed away from it during their closing statement so was not WADA's claim, rather an expert witness, one that they called.
CAS in their award notes that expert witnesses on both sides agreed the research into the causes of elevated levels of TB4 in urine was premature.
But hey it's the HS we talking about, not giving the full story is par for the course.
Muggs
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And had recently quit from the club to boot!
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No, I’m just disappointed
Just pointing out something relevant, which you are yet to do.
No, you didn't.
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Anything to save the players...
gavaniacono
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"Doctor Reid, the traitor, throws players and hird under bus by refusing to lie", as bad as it is, would be a better thread title.
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Of course he was targeted by the AFL - he was the cornerstone of the manufactured solution. "Look to be doing something whilst not really doing anything" - only he nor ASADA (eventually and for different reasons) did not agree.
Had he towed the line, he would remained "in the fold" and would have been looked after by the Old Boy's Club. He probably would be coaching again by now.
It still doesn't change how this sorry saga all started and the failures by many, who had responsibilities to do otherwise.
Hird had responsibilities to the playing group that he did not manage appropriately, whether that was by ignorance or his own design, matters not now.
I'm happy to accept that he (amongst others) was maginalised and then victimised by the AFL to protect it's financial interest (all those gambling $ must be protected, after all). As have the doped players been to some extent, in how they have been "represented" by the puppet-AFLPA.
But those most maginalised and victimised by the AFL'S cover-up are the clean footballers ; and then by association have tarred other clean Aussie athletes (although I think Blackcat keeps trying to to point out that there may not be too many of these - of course I could just suck at "Blackcat-translations!).
NoAFLinmycomp
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I'll put in a fiver!
Am I wrong or does the OP seem a Hird fanboy who would have preferred the players were left on the hook so his hero could survive. I understand the AFL were doing it in their own interests but surely the spin off was the club was to suffer less if successful.
Instead, OP up in arms that the club / players were being saved and not Hird. A bit like throwing AFL under the bus for giving them a heads up.
Instead, OP up in arms that the club / players were being saved and not Hird. A bit like throwing AFL under the bus for giving them a heads up.
wahawk
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Who are you talking about here ?
The last 3 AFL CEO's are
Wayne Jackson , no Hawthorn involvement
Andrew Demitriou , 3 games at Hawthorn but no other involvement with the club
Gil McLachlan , no involvement with Hawthorn.
Who you talking about
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Worst coach in decades oversees a playing group that were injected with PED's and the AFL had an issue with that? Well fmd
Would not be at all surprised if it was true. EFC's shenanigans largely came to light as a result of the ACC, not ASADA. And the AFL sure as hell wouldn't investigate, we saw that with the lengths they went to in trying cover up and then stop the Essendon case.
Essendon may simply have been the unlucky ones to get caught, but this is the first time anyone has claimed there is evidence elsewhere. And the evidence was not accepted, why? Due to irrelevenace, or was actual evidence lacking, or other reasons?
There's also nothing to say that this use was club organised, or if players at clubs.
Muggs
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Not accepted due to new nature of the tests, research to establish elevated levels done on mice not men, let alone athletes.
Tyrone Time
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So we are playing for our fifth flag in a row? Cool.
Mods, please update avatars. Thanks.
Mods, please update avatars. Thanks.
Ah, thanks, it was (unreliable as yet) physical evidence. So, this saga might be revisited in a few years.
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As opposed to the rest of the alleged evidence which was even more unreliable.
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Huh? Sydney beat an "enhanced" team. Should get a double flag
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Yeah them damn molecular weight tests which showed 99% similarity.
