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You think Saunders and another player is the equivalent of Heeney, Mills, Gulden etc?If North get gifted Sanders and first round pick for McKay I expect none of their fans to complain about academies again.
You don't think 2x top 10 picks is equivalent to top 10 picks? At least we had to use our other picks to matchYou think Saunders and another player is the equivalent of Heeney, Mills, Gulden etc?
*At a 20% discountYou don't think 2x top 10 picks is equivalent to top 10 picks? At least we had to use our other picks to match
If North got an end of first round compo for Mckay, but got the same leg up as the swans, the result would be much the same as what is going to happen anyway, something like:You don't think 2x top 10 picks is equivalent to top 10 picks? At least we had to use our other picks to match
Draft points are always at a 20% discount. When do they come into play except for matching bids?*At a 20% discount
Since when has McKercher been in north’s academy?If North got an end of first round compo for Mckay, but got the same leg up as the swans, the result would be much the same as what is going to happen anyway, something like:
WC select Reid
North select Walter, bid matched by GC, GC get 20% discount
North select Curtin
Hawthorn select McKercher, North match bid on basis he spent time with our NGA, 20% discount applies
Hawks select Watson
Melbourne select Duursma
GC select Read, 20% discount applies
Adelaide select Sanders, North match bid, 20% discount applies
We'd need to use a little more draft capital to make it happen, but that's it.
He participated in it as a teen, but my understanding is he's not NGA eligible for the purposes of the draft because he's not indigenous. (I think. Happy to be corrected if I've misunderstood.)Since when has McKercher been in north’s academy?
Just like when the Dogs got JUH, just like when Sydney got Nick Blakey through its academy, just like when Gold Coast got Anderson and Rowell, just like when Daniher got band 1 and charitably extended his contract at 2/3s the rate... Enforcing integrity in the draft and trade season is pretty far down the AFL’s list of priorities.
In the absence of much integrity from the AFL commission on this, of course North supporters are going to point to precedence to argue what they think is fair within an unfair system.
Yes, Sanders is the one we're applying to become NGA eligible for us to prelist.Hold on, when did McKercher become part of the NGA?
Isn't it Sanders?
North have had enough top picks in their squad.Still amazes me that clubs get rewarded for s**t decsions,its not the other 17 clubs fault that your recruiters cant spot talent and continually pick players that are either no good or hire development coaches that are any good at their jobs. paying Polec 750k a year is just one example. Do what richmond and melbourne have done draft elite kids with top picks and then sign free agents instead of relying on handouts
North have 25 first and 2nd rounders on their list.
They are potentially going to add 4-5 more.
An incredible amount considering most clubs have 44-46 players.
This is a VAFA club masquerading as an AFL club.
Right. But in this sham of a system, I would argue he probably is worth 3 years at 800k so long as in six months time he charitably extends for another 3 years at 500k.Precidence says you need a $800k contract to land bamd 1. McKay isnt worth that and North posters have explained why.
You think Saunders and another player is the equivalent of Heeney, Mills, Gulden etc?
Right. But in this sham of a system, I would argue he probably is worth 3 years at 800k so long as in six months time he charitably extends for another 3 years at 500k.
Apart from the word academy the Next Gen Academies and the Swans academies are completely different. Not sure why you're comparing them.He participated in it as a teen, but my understanding is he's not NGA eligible for the purposes of the draft because he's not indigenous. (I think. Happy to be corrected if I've misunderstood.)
My point is just that a player coming from Sydney's academy doesn't have that prerequisite for them to match a bid on them.
Sanders has done development with the NGA:Apart from the word academy the Next Gen Academies and the Swans academies are completely different. Not sure why you're comparing them.
Sanders is a great example; he has had no development from North yet you're able to link him to your club all of a sudden. Swans Academies aren't able to pull a player in at the last minute like that.
Instead of complaining how hard done by North is just take the gift and run with it.
Just read an article that said the afl has assure clubs it won’t manipulate Mackay’s compensation to trigger band 1. Will be interesting to see what he is actually offeredMate there are a couple about saying pick 3 is what North should get for compo. More than a couple.
And you need a $800k contract to land that.
Agree with all that.
Precidence says you need a $800k contract to land bamd 1. McKay isnt worth that and North posters have explained why.
Some North poster mentioned Sanders had been a North nga since he was 12. Hmmmm.
Quote from Sanders.
"North have been talking with me since I was 15. If I need anything they say just let them know"
-melbourne-kangaroos/afl-news-2023-north-melbourne-three-top10-draft-picks-ben-mckay-compensation-first-round-pick-ryley-sanders-next-generation-academy-prelisted/news-story/fe2d2db2
Be interested to know exactly what development they put into him. During the past three covid years with limited games and no travel early on. A couple of pairs of boots, a footy or two, a North shirt and a beanie!
If North get gifted Sanders and first round pick for McKay I expect none of their fans to complain about academies again.
The rules are what they are at the time. Just as the Bulldogs missed out on Rance & Sam and Ben Reid when FS eligibility was changed from 50 to 100 games. It happens. You did manage to get Tarryn Thomas before the change to pick 40 for NGA access.Just like when the Dogs got JUH, just like when Sydney got Nick Blakey through its academy, just like when Gold Coast got Anderson and Rowell, just like when Daniher got band 1 and charitably extended his contract at 2/3s the rate... Enforcing integrity in the draft and trade season is pretty far down the AFL’s list of priorities.
In the absence of much integrity from the AFL commission on this, of course North supporters are going to point to precedence to argue what they think is fair within an unfair system.
The rules are what they are at the time. Just as the Bulldogs missed out on Rance & Sam and Ben Reid when FS eligibility was changed from 50 to 100 games. It happens. You did manage to get Tarryn Thomas before the change to pick 40 for NGA access.
Asking the AFL to bend the rules doesn't make it right.
To be clear, I’m not here to argue that North have been particularly hard done by.The rules are what they are at the time. Just as the Bulldogs missed out on Rance & Sam and Ben Reid when FS eligibility was changed from 50 to 100 games. It happens. You did manage to get Tarryn Thomas before the change to pick 40 for NGA access.
Asking the AFL to bend the rules doesn't make it right.
Who is offering a guy that’s body has let him down to have only played 66 games in his 8th season a 6 year contract?Right. But in this sham of a system, I would argue he probably is worth 3 years at 800k so long as in six months time he charitably extends for another 3 years at 500k.