List Mgmt. Aisho Going Elsewhere

[Visions]

Have any Brisbane players tweeted yet? Surely they have by now...

Yeah right. Hypocrites dont like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

 

[Visions]

I hope Aish walks to the PSD,
we say we didn't want him anyway,
no one else touches him,
he walks through unpicked
He retires
We then draft him ad a rookie on min wages

Oh to dream

I don't understand all this talk about Aish going to the PSD? Wouldn't he just do a Ball and nominate for the national draft instead and go via that path? That would be his best method of getting to us if Lions don't want to trade.

With us possibly receiving a pick in the 20's for one of the players exiting, you would think that would be enough to get him then. You would doubt another club with a top 20 pick would use it on him.

Would also stuff up the Lions "line in the sand" moment.

 

[jatsad]

Should we be concerned about a possible Bell-Aish trade deal being struck between Carlton and Lions?

Aish would have to agree to the trade. Won't happen.

 

[Tbone McGraw]

I don't understand all this talk about Aish going to the PSD? Wouldn't he just do a Ball and nominate for the national draft instead and go via that path? That would be his best method of getting to us if Lions don't want to trade.

With us possibly receiving a pick in the 20's for one of the players exiting, you would think that would be enough to get him then. You would doubt another club with a top 20 pick would use it on him.

Would also stuff up the Lions "line in the sand" moment.

Apparently Carlton are heavily into Aish so could pick him up. Not sure how it would work

 

[jasonwilde]

Apparently Carlton are heavily into Aish so could pick him up. Not sure how it would work

Well, basically Carlton hang around a bin at the back of a restaurant waiting for the bus boy to put people's leftover dinner into the bin

 

[loki04]

We still have beams

And we still have Degoey, Crisp and Greenwood.

Adding Treloar too.

 

[larrikan]

"Coach Justin Leppitsch said he wanted to bring in some A-grade talent and that's exactly what the Lions did with Beams and Christensen. Both are premiership players, highly skilled, in the prime of their careers and add polish to an already exciting midfield group."-AFL website Oct 18,2014.

So Leppitsch advocates stealing premiership players from other clubs but won't trade a player he didn't consider in his top 22 during the season while they were on the bottom of the ladder. In addition, they ask the AFL for a priority pick but when the opportunity comes to trade in value for a high draft pick, they refuse.

A better ploy would have been for them to demand a first round pick and say Collingwood better be prepared to give up next years first rounder. Demand value for their player. But instead their posturing is a PR disaster. Old man Matthews should think before he speaks.

The AFL has a mediation process during trade week. Ryder used it last year. The trade goes before an independent arbitrator who tries to bring the parties together. I suspect Brisbane do themselves no favours with the AFL with this posturing. How quickly they forget their three in a row when they ripped the heart out of other clubs by stealing young players with a cheating salary cap. Because of that, I have zero sympathy for them.

If the AFL don't step in behind the scenes, how will they like it when we say' "fair enough, we refuse to trade Freeman too." Melbourne say, "Toumpas is going nowhere." Oh my, GWS lost a #1 Boyd! Pickers says let's just go to court. hmmmm. Well played Bears, oops Luenberger just become a third round compensation-sorry didn't you read the fine print about AFL having the final say.

 

[larrikan]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ent-james-aish-will-stay-20150419-1moeei.html

Swann and Matthews must hate us. Adelaide might be alright but don't say Collingwood!

 

[joff]

I have a feeling it wont be enough to get it done... Aish is a future gun player and would attract a premium... Oxley plus 2nd rounder may get it done

I think that's a fair price surely they'd rather that than nothing?

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Apparently Carlton are heavily into Aish so could pick him up. Not sure how it would work

It would work like it worked with Nick Stevens; if we can't manufacture a deal then the Lions send him into the draft and Carltank as the bottom-feeding scum that they are are positioned to pick him up. They get into his ear that they can offer him x, y and z.

The only thing is, since the Stevens situation, players like Ball have created a new blueprint on how to do it via the ND.

 

[Matt_352]

Imagine if we did get him in the PSD though

Essentially

Out: Beams

In: DeGoey Greenwood Crisp Aish

Yeah not too bad

 

[Vicky Park]

Will it cost us too much to land Aish? Treloar is the priority, and his deal will eat up our first round pick for this year, and??? Is it therefore realistic to think we can package up players/picks to land Aish? Surely we have priorities elsewhere, such as a young KPF.

The silence coming out of Collingwood is deafening. OK, Bucks has made it clear that he and the club wont comment in public on players who are still listed with other clubs. But some feverish work will be going on at the Holden Centre. This has a long way to go.

 

[eddiebankbalance]

This is a picture of AiHsO climbing aboard the Collingwood bus.

 

[left at home]

Will it cost us too much to land Aish? Treloar is the priority, and his deal will eat up our first round pick for this year, and??? Is it therefore realistic to think we can package up players/picks to land Aish? Surely we have priorities elsewhere, such as a young KPF.

The silence coming out of Collingwood is deafening. OK, Bucks has made it clear that he and the club wont comment in public on players who are still listed with other clubs. But some feverish work will be going on at the Holden Centre. This has a long way to go.

yes your right, it mite play out till the last days. but I like how there doing it this year quietly, quietly. say very little and hopefully
get the job done.

 

[ppoiter]

I like it when we unite against someone instead of arguing amongst ourselves. Thanks Brisbane, you've really brightened this place up

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Should we be concerned about a possible Bell-Aish trade deal being struck between Carlton and Lions?

It doesn't work like that

There are 3 parties to a trade and ALL three MUST agree to the deal
2 out of 3 = fail

 

[Enforcer]

Will it cost us too much to land Aish? Treloar is the priority, and his deal will eat up our first round pick for this year, and??? Is it therefore realistic to think we can package up players/picks to land Aish? Surely we have priorities elsewhere, such as a young KPF.

The silence coming out of Collingwood is deafening. OK, Bucks has made it clear that he and the club wont comment in public on players who are still listed with other clubs. But some feverish work will be going on at the Holden Centre. This has a long way to go.

Silence ain't too deafening when the club updates two stories on their website in a matter of a couple of hours of Aish publicly committing to Collingwood.

Reckon Eddie made sure the club wanted the world (and especially the Brions) know who Aish had selected.

Cannot see this deal not going through.

 

[unplugged]

The influx of a good culture continues with this one. Great young lad.

Didn't even touch a beer in his first year. Dave will like that.

Hope we can get the deal done.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

Brisbane are simply a very unprofessional organisation. Refusing to entertain a trade, publicly, before they even know what's on offer is amateurish and immature. They will now look weak if they cave, which they probably will.

Leigh is a liability. All fire and brimstone, no strategy. LeppO is all at sea and looks completely out of his depth. They need an overhaul and if I was a supporter I would be demanding one.

The fact that everyone wants out is telling. This stance won't do anything to change that.

Areas around Brisbane have some of the best beaches in the world, a magnificent climate, gorgeous fit women, leisure activities, plenty of nightlife. Youngsters should love going there. Queensland is the dream. It's clearly about culture and the internal environment must be toxic.

Treating players like prisoners and refusing to acknowledge their wants and needs will not do anything but alienate them. This is not 1972. The club's attitude will also make potential suitors think twice about going there.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

I'm not understanding what Brisbane are trying to achieve by doing this.

Instead of taking your ball and going home like a petulant child, how about they as a Club address the ACTUAL issue of why players continually want to leave that club?

Why don't players want to leave Sydney en masse?
Why don't players want to leave West Coast en masse?
Why don't players want to leave Fremantle en masse?
Why don't players want to leave Adelaide en masse?
Why don't players want to leave Port Adelaide en masse?

Brisbane are like Elizabeth Taylor. After 7 marriages, maybe take a look at yourself and ask...."Am I the problem?"

Having this shit attitude will just make LESS players want to go to Brisbane. Not more. We're losing a Top 10 player from that same draft Lions. Except ours hasn't even played a game and we've spent a lot more trying to get him right.

We got Pick 5, Pick 25 and Crisp for Beams
1st pick next year (most likely Top 10), Pick 25-27, and Seedsman is MORE than fair for Aish.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I'm not understanding what Brisbane are trying to achieve by doing this.

Instead of taking your ball and going home like a petulant child, how about they as a Club address the ACTUAL issue of why players continually want to leave that club?

Why don't players want to leave Sydney en masse?
Why don't players want to leave West Coast en masse?
Why don't players want to leave Fremantle en masse?
Why don't players want to leave Adelaide en masse?
Why don't players want to leave Port Adelaide en masse?

Brisbane are like Elizabeth Taylor. After 7 marriages, maybe take a look at yourself and ask...."Am I the problem?"

Having this shit attitude will just make LESS players want to go to Brisbane. Not more. We're losing a Top 10 player from that same draft Lions. Except ours hasn't even played a game and we've spent a lot more trying to get him right.

We got Pick 5, Pick 25 and Crisp for Beams
1st pick next year (most likely Top 10), Pick 25-27, and Seedsman is MORE than fair for Aish.

Wow, we agree on something

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Wow, we agree on something

Sun even shines on a dog's arse some days.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Liam Pickering on James Aish;

"We only really knew in the last couple of days that Collingwood was his destination of choice," Pickering said.

"James has been there two years, he’s got every right as an uncontracted player to request a trade."

"Aish really wants to come to Melbourne and he really wants to play for Collingwood. He’s still only 19, he’s got a hell of a lot in front of him, he’s going to be a terrific player."

 

[crazybear]

It doesn't work like that

There are 3 parties to a trade and ALL three MUST agree to the deal
2 out of 3 = fail

Correct but Carlton can take less back on the Bell deal from Brisbane knowing that they will get Aish in PSD.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Correct but Carlton can take less back on the Bell deal from Brisbane knowing that they will get Aish in PSD.

But if Pickering is clever, Aish won't go into the PSD, he will go into the ND. Just as Luke Ball did