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Haha..I remember that Weaver post in response to my 'comment'..( my previous username was Nobby8).

I'd just joined BF and really didn't know how it all worked and made the mistake of going on the Tiger board to stir up shit...(stir up IDGAF mostly:p)

I'll never forget that draft day when J.R was picked and Weaver promptly started a thread and called it a 'disgusting' draft pick. The avalanche of abuse and arguements went on for weeks.

Highly entertaining reading it was compared to the more 'dullsville' type of Bomber forum at the time..actually nothing has changed.

I've tried to find that Weaver draft day thread but can't seem to locate it..?
 
Cotchin was meant to only b , a forward pocket player at best..,
Masten was the player we had to get as he was a pure mid......
What he wrote read well, but to be honest i didnt think his recruiting brain was that good.
Glad tigers didnt get him

That's not what he said about Cotchin at all, he said he was similar to Ablett in that he could turn out to be an absolute elite midfielder, but (like Ablett) it was going to take time and an enormous amount of hard work on the training track for him to play the role. Lucky for us, he's a hard worker and the question marks on his body holding up at the top level have so far not been a major issue.

Had his injuries been a bigger issue and/or he couldn't put the work in on the track, pick#2 was a lot to pay for a classy HFF when we desperately needed mids - which was the reasoning behind what Weaver said.

And in fairness to Masten, he hasn't had the opportunity to show his best yet - though it's pretty clear he'll never hold a candle to Cotchin.
 
That's not what he said about Cotchin at all, he said he was similar to Ablett in that he could turn out to be an absolute elite midfielder, but (like Ablett) it was going to take time and an enormous amount of hard work on the training track for him to play the role. Lucky for us, he's a hard worker and the question marks on his body holding up at the top level have so far not been a major issue.

Had his injuries been a bigger issue and/or he couldn't put the work in on the track, pick#2 was a lot to pay for a classy HFF when we desperately needed mids - which was the reasoning behind what Weaver said.

And in fairness to Masten, he hasn't had the opportunity to show his best yet - though it's pretty clear he'll never hold a candle to Cotchin.

Would bet my bottom dollar that if it was in reverse and Masten was now a tiger and Cotch an eagle, you and all the other apologists would have been trundling out the party line, backed up by the stats etc etc etc, to back up the selection...adding any other possible excuse you could find to defend the pick...
In defence of Masten, he aint that bad, he aint a lost cause, he makes some kind of impact so its not as if the comparisons have no grounds...like other comparisons between chalk and cheese types i.e. no hope vs no need to wait and hope. ;)
 

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Just loved UptheGuts' response to the Riewoldt selection! LMAO!!!


Re: Pick 13 - Jack Reiwoldt
Atrocious. Dead set atrocious.

Sellar, Hislop, Proud.

Deary me Tiges, we deserve what we get.... Miller - on notice from my point of view.

Furious


Gold!!!!!!
 
Just loved UptheGuts' response to the Riewoldt selection! LMAO!!!


Re: Pick 13 - Jack Reiwoldt
Atrocious. Dead set atrocious.

Sellar, Hislop, Proud.

Deary me Tiges, we deserve what we get.... Miller - on notice from my point of view.

Furious

Gold!!!!!!


Yeah too funny this thread, to be fair the guy has turned out far better than all of us could have imagined though!!:eek::thumbsu:
 
reading that thread it quickly becomes apparent that not a lot has changed around here in the last 5 years
 
Would bet my bottom dollar that if it was in reverse and Masten was now a tiger and Cotch an eagle, you and all the other apologists would have been trundling out the party line, backed up by the stats etc etc etc, to back up the selection...adding any other possible excuse you could find to defend the pick...
In defence of Masten, he aint that bad, he aint a lost cause, he makes some kind of impact so its not as if the comparisons have no grounds...

LOL...I think you got confused about WHO is an 'apologist?' :D

Just loved UptheGuts' response to the Riewoldt selection! LMAO!!!

....

Gold!!!!!!

LOL...poor old UTG has copped more about his comments on that thread than Weaver ever did YaBB...and every time someone mentions Weaver that post inevitably comes back to haunt him all over again. To his credit, he takes it very well. :thumbsu:
 

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Haha..I remember that Weaver post in response to my 'comment'..( my previous username was Nobby8).

I'd just joined BF and really didn't know how it all worked and made the mistake of going on the Tiger board to stir up shit...(stir up IDGAF mostly:p)

I'll never forget that draft day when J.R was picked and Weaver promptly started a thread and called it a 'disgusting' draft pick. The avalanche of abuse and arguements went on for weeks.

Highly entertaining reading it was compared to the more 'dullsville' type of Bomber forum at the time..actually nothing has changed.

I've tried to find that Weaver draft day thread but can't seem to locate it..?
Ha! I thought it was you.
I remember as a n00b i implored Adam Pattison to handball and never kick it. Weaver then tore shreds off me saying it was pointless and that the only way he could improve was to focus on his negatives.
He had a point. But he could be very condescending in doing so.
 
LOL...I think you got confused about WHO is an 'apologist?' :D



LOL...poor old UTG has copped more about his comments on that thread than Weaver ever did YaBB...and every time someone mentions Weaver that post inevitably comes back to haunt him all over again. To his credit, he takes it very well. :thumbsu:

It just shows though how difficult it really is to identify those who are and those who are not going to make it!
The psyche testing is just so important to get right! All of us on BF are not privy to that info. In fairness to UTG, the players mentioned as a preference to Jack, all have shown mental frailty in some capacity and this has contributed to their lack of success in major ways.

I've said it a hundred times, hindsight has 20/20 vision!
 
The psyche testing is just so important to get right! All of us on BF are not privy to that info.

It's a huge factor YaBB - if indeed it correctly identifies the 'worthiest attitudes' consistently enough. We don't really have any evidence to suggest how well or how often it actually does come up with the 'worthiest attitude for football.'

I loved Weaver for the completely different ways we often approached our football analysis. When he looked at Reiwoldt he (quite legitimately) saw a player who couldn't run anywhere near the level that the athletes did, was well and truly verging on being undersized to play a genuine KPF role, and didn't have enough talent to overcome these liabilities to an extent where he was worth such an early pick.

Completely legitimate and intelligent opinion, based on perfectly valid empirical evidence.

I saw a player with freakish ball reading ability and natural football smarts, great natural marking and kicking technique, and a competitive instinct to succeed which just screamed that he could and would lead a forward line. Me and Pat Malone copped an enormous amount of crap for even daring to imply pre-draft that he was the best tall of the crop - it was unthinkable apparently, Hanson, Hawkins and Thorp were clearly way ahead and anyone who thought otherwise was a moron. I didn't really notice his lack of running ability until Weaver mentioned it, I didn't really care about his size in precise cm and kg, I just saw him as a footballer. I could easily have been proven wrong (and have been many times - he'd nail me time and time again on many of the footballers who couldn't and didn't achieve the required athletic ability...Krakouer perhaps the best known example) by Weaver's genuine concerns.

Maybe if we'd known the results of the psyche tests on Reiwoldt back in those days it would have shown which legitimate opinion was the risk worth backing in. ;)
 
Ahh shit..I thought he said disgusting but it was 'pathetic'...:o

So much for my memory...I've got to stop sniffing that Ajax!

I like this one...post 6

I want to cry.
 
Some memories that thread brings back lol! Remember sitting and reading posts and biting my tongue....until my tirade after 6 pages..lmao I was right that time but I suspect Weaver was more often right than wrong. I also miss his insight. Notice Jezza's nick on a few post too. Another golden oldie who I dont see around. We had a good day at Princes Park together watching Cleve not bend his knees once in the VFL Ressies GF one year! Thems was da days!
 

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