Are modern bats too big? David Warner says no

[ManWithNoName]

A few choice highlights from Warner's article

IN Adelaide I saw a photo where Barry Richards compared his bat from 1970 to the Gray- Nicolls Kaboom that I use today.



Let’s just say; mine’s bigger, but I honestly don’t see what the big deal is.

So he's started off like a 5 year old.

I don’t believe my bat gives me any extra advantage at all and if world cricket wants to create a better balance between bat and ball which they are talking about, they should be looking at other areas

You don't think it gives you any extra advantage? Are you trolling or stupid Davey?

But look at modern day houses compared to the 1920s, look at the improvements in tennis racquets and soccer balls. The people who make bats know how to do it better now than they did 40 years ago, and I don’t see why we should go backwards.

Well I'm not sure what houses have to do with anything. But in tennis both players have racquets. In soccer both sides use the same ball. In cricket only the batsman has a bat. The bowling side has the same old ball. So there's an enormous difference.

The other point is even if you do put a restriction on bat sizes, guys would still be able to hit the ball the same distance, because batsmen in the modern game are just so strong.

Nah I don't think they would.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/c...y/news-story/c5fd3996ff73723bb2586dee9734a81e

 

[Gollo]

A few choice highlights from Warner's article



So he's started off like a 5 year old.



You don't think it gives you any extra advantage? Are you trolling or stupid Davey?


Well I'm not sure what houses have to do with anything. But in tennis both players have racquets. In soccer both sides use the same ball. In cricket only the batsman has a bat. The bowling side has the same old ball. So there's an enormous difference.



Nah I don't think they would.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/c...y/news-story/c5fd3996ff73723bb2586dee9734a81e

Your whole response is making you sound like a five-year-old.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Your whole response is making you sound like a five-year-old.

k

 

[Art Vandelay_]

We'll let everyone else decide then...

 

[Richard Pryor]

I don’t believe my bat gives me any extra advantage at all and if world cricket wants to create a better balance between bat and ball which they are talking about, they should be looking at other areas

But look at modern day houses compared to the 1920s, look at the improvements in tennis racquets and soccer balls. The people who make bats know how to do it better now than they did 40 years ago, and I don’t see why we should go backwards.

Seems like he's contradicting himself here. He could easily use a smaller bat to prove his point, but I'm guessing he won't.

The other point is even if you do put a restriction on bat sizes, guys would still be able to hit the ball the same distance, because batsmen in the modern game are just so strong.

"Steroids shouldn't be banned because the big bats mean batsman can hit the ball just as far"? Stupid logic.

 

[The 747]

Warner need to know his limitations. Written rhetoric is not gonna be his thing. Should stick to hitting the ball really hard with his gigantic bat.

 

[strewthcobber]

Which gives a bigger advantage, today's bigger bats or yesterday's terrible standard of fielding?

 

[iluvparis]

Also LOL at the tennis reference.

Game has been totally changed by the improvement in racquet technology. Serve and volley has been completely eliminated from the game because you can basically hit clean winners off the frame with the modern day racquets.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Warner need to know his limitations. Written rhetoric is not gonna be his thing. Should stick to hitting the ball really hard with his gigantic bat.

Kaboom!

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Which gives a bigger advantage, today's bigger bats or yesterday's terrible standard of fielding?

The bigger bats, coupled with wickets being covered post-play and whenever the heavens open, the inability (by laws of the game) of bowlers to bowl in a fashion designed to intimidate batsmen, the requirement that the fielding team sends down 90 overs in a day's play (means that bowlers are more likely to become fatigued, especially later in the day, which then affects their bowling rhythm and thus their line & length).

The laws of the game have definitely swung in favour of the batsmen over the last 20 years, and the bats the batsmen are using only exacerbate the situation.

 

[The 747]

I almost wish for the day they make Warner captain just so I can read his captain's diary book

 

[JackOutback]

Are you trolling or stupid Davey?

Obvious answer is obvious.

Who gave Dave Warner a pen (or worse, a ghost writer)?

 

[Chuckie357]

Warner need to know his limitations. Written rhetoric is not gonna be his thing. Should stick to hitting the ball really hard with his gigantic bat.

Yes he isn't the most intelligent sounding bloke is he, if he wasn't a cricketer he would still be working at Woolworths (but that is only because they paid him)

 

[Pugsley]

In the words of Gwen Stefani David, don't speak.

 

[strewthcobber]

The bigger bats, coupled with wickets being covered post-play and whenever the heavens open, the inability (by laws of the game) of bowlers to bowl in a fashion designed to intimidate batsmen, the requirement that the fielding team sends down 90 overs in a day's play (means that bowlers are more likely to become fatigued, especially later in the day, which then affects their bowling rhythm and thus their line & length).

The laws of the game have definitely swung in favour of the batsmen over the last 20 years, and the bats the batsmen are using only exacerbate the situation.

I don't disagree with you but they've swung in batsmen's favour to counter some of the improvements on the other side of the coin.

Balance this with:-

the massive improvement in fielding. Boundary ropes that allow for dives at the boundary. Video analysis of every shot every player makes. Improvements in general standards of every bowling attack in the world (the worst bowler in test cricket these days is much better than the worst bowler a couple of decades ago). Massive improvements in the fitness and professionalism with every team in the world. Replacement of cricket balls that go out of shape. The widespread adoption of techniques in the field that promote reverse swing.

 

[frankrizzo]

Tough one here, warner is pretty thick but in saying that if he came out in an interview and said yes my bat gives me a huge advantage please ban it quick smart wouldn't that be even stupider than anything he has said here?

 

[Belnakor]

I almost wish for the day they make Warner captain just so I can read his captain's diary book

about as likely as the captain actually writing his own diary

 

[carnthemlions]

Smaller bats, little to no padding, no helmets and forearm guards etc, uncovered pitches......the feats of the old timers are infinitely superior to the modern day feats. The standard of batter far greater.

People say this a lot, but I think it's a gross oversimplification at best and one-eyed nostalgia at worst.

 

[Belnakor]

People say this a lot, but I think it's a gross oversimplification at best and one-eyed nostalgia at worst.

if that were true, then we would see alot more batsman averaging over 50. There was a boom in the 90s but its looking now more like it was a glut of talent. Top line batsman at the moment average 50 as they have since WW2.

The biggest improvement in batting averages has come from the tail. And that is simply because it is no longer accept to be a mug with the bat.

 

[The 747]

about as likely as the captain actually writing his own diary

What? You ruined it for me now!

 

[bombersfan4000]

View attachment 199272 We'll let everyone else decide then...

lol the funny thing is those "big bats" of today are actuary some what lighter than the bats of over a decade ago

 

[Belnakor]

lol the funny thing is those "big bats" of today are actuary some what lighter than the bats of over a decade ago

Lighter, massive sweet spot, less edges and more power in general. Other than pretty much the same.

 

[Underdog]

The game evolves in playing style and technology. One could suggest the thicker bat is required to fit with the current style as a thinner bat gradually decreased in viability.

Essentially saying that the game evolved beyond smaller bats such that a heavy bat was required to restore normalcy.

 

[MisterMarcus]

I almost wish for the day they make Warner captain just so I can read his captain's diary book

It would be Warwick Todd, except not a parody.

 

[Nuke Fremantle]

Davey seems keen to mention other sports so what does he think about the evolution and then de-evolution of baseball bats?