Are we ready to replace our veterans?

[Ian Dargie]

I honestly think with 1-2 more preseasons schofield could easily take the CHB role and be AA at it (i think you'll find i said he'd be a future AA CHB at the end of 2010 and everyone laughed at me.

I reckon it makes more sense to leave Mackenzie where he is and find someone else to slot straight into Glass's current role.

That would mean, if Schofield's the man, that he would likely play deeper, at FB, than at CHB, where Mackenzie is pretty settled.

 

[Ian Dargie]

The only issue is that key defenders are so hard to find, once Glass goes and we lose Brown, it will be extremely hard to get any sort of replacement. There simply are not many out there, and being able to secure one via trade or free agency would be near on impossible.

Why?

Are key defenders less likely to move as free agents than other players?

 

[Suma Magic]

This makes no sense, Mackenzie already takes the power forwards most of the time?

Yes he does. Which is why he cant replace Glass. He's already got a spot in the team.

 

[Marlin01]

Yes he does. Which is why he cant replace Glass. He's already got a spot in the team.

Suma, EF final v North is on Fox Footy ATM.

 

[Suma Magic]

Suma, EF final v North is on Fox Footy ATM.

Was just watching it but had to head to work. I also caught the end of the Freo/north game a few days ago. North were a rabble last three games of the year, embarrassed by us and the dockers, struggled against GWS. And that was with a full team too.

On topic, my point is, if you replace someone in a team with someone else already in that team, then someone else needs to come into that team.

 

[Ian Dargie]

On topic, my point is, if you replace someone in a team with someone else already in that team, then someone else needs to come into that team.

I don't think it makes that much sense to think of us as replacing Glass with Mackenzie.

I think it's more likely Mackenzie will stay at CHB, essentially in his current role, albeit with even more responsibility, leaving us to find a direct replacement for Glass at FB.

I think that is a more accurate characterisation of what would happen if, for example, Brown or Schofield were to take over from Glass.

 

[TOA.]

Why?

Are key defenders less likely to move as free agents than other players?

I think so because clubs will be willing to pay them alot because there are so few and therefore they have a high replacement cost. The only good key defenders who will be better than Brown and be around for the same length of time at Frawley, Phil Davis, Talia and Ben Reid. No side has a couple of extra you can poach on the cheap and if you went for one of those guys you would have to pay huge money to entice them away which I dont think is ideal.

 

[sydney eagle]

Could we turn one of our young key forwards into a key defender, in much the same way as Ashley McIntosh went from being a promising key forward to a star key defender ?

 

[WCE_phil]

I reckon it makes more sense to leave Mackenzie where he is and find someone else to slot straight into Glass's current role.

That would mean, if Schofield's the man, that he would likely play deeper, at FB, than at CHB, where Mackenzie is pretty settled.

I legitimately think thank Emac is a better FB than CHB due to his skillset and while the positions aren't as defined these days i would have him playing on the closest big forward to the goals. As a CHB i legitimately think schofield can be better due to his skillset. Not only can he nullify the opposition but he can hurt them the other way. Something Emac could never do and something you would expect more out of a CHB than a FB.

 

[Chris_6678]

Could we turn one of our young key forwards into a key defender, in much the same way as Ashley McIntosh went from being a promising key forward to a star key defender ?

Frasier Mcinnes is the player that has been mentioned as a player that could possibly slot into the backline.

 

[Big Tones]

I think so because clubs will be willing to pay them alot because there are so few and therefore they have a high replacement cost. The only good key defenders who will be better than Brown and be around for the same length of time at Frawley, Phil Davis, Talia and Ben Reid. No side has a couple of extra you can poach on the cheap and if you went for one of those guys you would have to pay huge money to entice them away which I dont think is ideal.

Agree. Which is why we would have to find big $ to keep Browny in the face of the offer St K will make for him for 2014.

Can't see McInnes at the back. Has Sinclair played back - he's big enough, also Colledge (Woosh "recruiters say he is physically ready to play"). Even if we can keep Browny we need cover for the big back men 2014 on.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Agree. Which is why we would have to find big $ to keep Browny in the face of the offer St K will make for him for 2014.

Can't see McInnes at the back. Has Sinclair played back - he's big enough, also Colledge (Woosh "recruiters say he is physically ready to play"). Even if we can keep Browny we need cover for the big back men 2014 on.

Can't see McInnes in defence with his excellent reading of the play, long reach, big size and telescopic left foot?

 

[Big Tones]

Can't see McInnes in defence with his excellent reading of the play, long reach, big size and telescopic left foot?

unlike many who post on this board I would be very happy to be wrong but the one time I got to training this year, McInnes was training with the fwds. I don't see him as a defender in the same way as I don't see Browny as a fwd (IMO he always seems lost up front). It would be great to be wrong.

 

[Bender_]

Where is Tunbridge's ideal position?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Where is Tunbridge's ideal position?

He seems to be targeting a big bodied midfielder role i.e. Kennedy from Swans if some reports are to be believed.

 

[Bender_]

He seems to be targeting a big bodied midfielder role i.e. Kennedy from Swans if some reports are to be believed.

He's 191cm, bit short I know, but if Schofield went to CHB could he play on a third tall?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

He's 191cm, bit short I know, but if Schofield went to CHB could he play on a third tall?

He was playing as a forward at the end of last season for Perth, and doing quite well.

 

[the harry]

Am I the only one who is unconvinced Brown will even make the grade?

 

[Bender_]

He was playing as a forward at the end of last season for Perth, and doing quite well.

Unlikely he could play defense effectively you reckon?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Unlikely he could play defense effectively you reckon?

He started the season playing in defence, but seemed better suited up forward. I think he is a genuine utility tbh, perhaps in the Staker mould.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

unlike many who post on this board I would be very happy to be wrong but the one time I got to training this year, McInnes was training with the fwds. I don't see him as a defender in the same way as I don't see Browny as a fwd (IMO he always seems lost up front). It would be great to be wrong.

Where he trains tells us about intentions, nothing more. He's played forward and back in the past, he's young and yet to play a game in the AFL.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Where is Tunbridge's ideal position?

He's not even a KPP.

 

[Bender_]

He's not even a KPP.

I didn't think so. I was hypothosising the possibility of Schofield playing KPP and Tunbridge going third tall, as per my other post.

 

[the harry]

He started the season playing in defence, but seemed better suited up forward. I think he is a genuine utility tbh, perhaps in the Staker mould.

Got dropped mid year didn't he?

Appears more capable of bulking up than Staker going by the training pics. The idea of him playing in the middle is genuinely exciting, I really hope we try it.

 

[Chris_6678]

Is he capable to even play as a mid? where did people get the idea who could do that.