Bad news for James Bond fans

[Ry009]

Cruise will be standing on a crate with high heels on. He's 5'7". Cavill's 6'1".

Referring to bulk not height, but yeah.

 

[Brick Loosener]

Referring to bulk not height, but yeah.

Pretty easy to slim down as he'd usually bulk up for roles.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Cavill has all the personality and charm and on screen presence as an pot plant.

I would generally prefer a woman Bond (or ideally someone like Idris Elba) over that soulless vanilla actor.

 

[Ry009]

Pretty easy to slim down as he'd usually bulk up for roles.

Oh yeah totally. Ironically the one role he doesn't need to be super jacked.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

It's official, welcome the new 007

 

[Roobs321]

doubt it, Boyega would be very miscast

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Fake

Obviously. I wish it was true though. He would be an amazing Bond I think.

 

[crafty_bernardo]

All the Hollywood fan casts are just uninspiring. Cavill, Elba, Hiddleston, Hardy.

I like Aaron Pierre otherwise they should do a casting call and hire an unknown

 

[Vader]

All the Hollywood fan casts are just uninspiring. Cavill, Elba, Hiddleston, Hardy.

I like Aaron Pierre otherwise they should do a casting call and hire an unknown

Most of the previous Bond castings were relative unknowns, at least as far as the movies were concerned.

• Sean Connery was best known for being a former Mr Universe winner, before being cast as Bond in Dr No.
• George Lazenby was a male model from Queanbeyan (not Mudgee), who had never previously acted.
• Roger Moore was cast as a result of his role as The Saint, on TV.
• Timothy Dalton had been around for ages, mostly playing minor roles, and was best known as a stage actor.
• Pierce Brosnan was cast as a result of his role in Remington Steele, again on TV.
• Daniel Craig had appeared in a heap of movies, but was barely on anyone's radar as a likely Bond, until his name was announced by Wilson & Broccoli.

Historically, Bond actors have all been relative unknowns. At best, some have played TV roles similar to Bond.

Wilson & Broccoli never cast an established A-grade actor in the role, which would rule out the likes of Cavill, Elba, Hiddleston & Hardy. However, with Amazon taking creative control, history is no longer any guide.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Most of the previous Bond castings were relative unknowns, at least as far as the movies were concerned.

• Sean Connery was best known for being a former Mr Universe winner, before being cast as Bond in Dr No.
• George Lazenby was a male model from Queanbeyan (not Mudgee), who had never previously acted.
• Roger Moore was cast as a result of his role as The Saint, on TV.
• Timothy Dalton had been around for ages, mostly playing minor roles, and was best known as a stage actor.
• Pierce Brosnan was cast as a result of his role in Remington Steele, again on TV.
• Daniel Craig had appeared in a heap of movies, but was barely on anyone's radar as a likely Bond, until his name was announced by Wilson & Broccoli.

Historically, Bond actors have all been relative unknowns. At best, some have played TV roles similar to Bond.

Wilson & Broccoli never cast an established A-grade actor in the role, which would rule out the likes of Cavill, Elba, Hiddleston & Hardy. However, with Amazon taking creative control, history is no longer any guide.

It's rather Doctor Who casting in that regard tbh


I would assume that Wilson and Broccoli have final say on who is the next Bond actor cast

 

[Vader]

I would assume that Wilson and Broccoli have final say on who is the next Bond actor cast

Not any more, they don't - they sold their rights to creative control to Amazon. This means that Amazon now has the final say in everything about Bond - including casting, scripts, directors, etc.

That's the whole point of this thread. Wilson & Broccoli no longer have any control over Bond, and that is almost entirely a bad thing.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Not any more, they don't - they sold their rights to creative control to Amazon. This means that Amazon now has the final say in everything about Bond - including casting, scripts, directors, etc.

Ah okay. Still I am interested to see what different direction Amazon will take the franchise, I feel it's gone a bit stale since the amazing Skyfall (my 3rd all time favourite Bond movie after From Russia with Love and Licence to Kill)

 

[crafty_bernardo]

Can they get Deakins to work with Nolan?

Speaking of Deakins he hasn't done a movie since 2022 and no upcoming projects on IMDB. Hope he's doing well health wise. One of the best cinematographers.

 

[HomerThompson]

Most of the previous Bond castings were relative unknowns, at least as far as the movies were concerned.

• Sean Connery was best known for being a former Mr Universe winner, before being cast as Bond in Dr No.
• George Lazenby was a male model from Queanbeyan (not Mudgee), who had never previously acted.
• Roger Moore was cast as a result of his role as The Saint, on TV.
• Timothy Dalton had been around for ages, mostly playing minor roles, and was best known as a stage actor.
• Pierce Brosnan was cast as a result of his role in Remington Steele, again on TV.
• Daniel Craig had appeared in a heap of movies, but was barely on anyone's radar as a likely Bond, until his name was announced by Wilson & Broccoli.

Historically, Bond actors have all been relative unknowns. At best, some have played TV roles similar to Bond.

Wilson & Broccoli never cast an established A-grade actor in the role, which would rule out the likes of Cavill, Elba, Hiddleston & Hardy. However, with Amazon taking creative control, history is no longer any guide.

I reckon Cavill will get it as Amazon will want to ensure they have a strong franchise.
Also, Moore, Dalton & Brosnan were all serious contenders the previous time the actor changed before they eventually got the role. Broccoli & Wilson don't have full control but do have some input, and Cavill made their shortlist last time around.

 

[Beerfish]

I reckon Cavill will get it as Amazon will want to ensure they have a strong franchise.
Also, Moore, Dalton & Brosnan were all serious contenders the previous time the actor changed before they eventually got the role. Broccoli & Wilson don't have full control but do have some input, and Cavill made their shortlist last time around.

If they've sold the rights i can't see how they'd have much input at all unless it was part of the deal.. which would be odd.

 

[crafty_bernardo]

License to Shill: Inside Amazon’s 007 Takeover

It’s the Bond movies’ most shocking plot twist in decades. But will the tech giant’s surprise buyout of the franchise prove deadly? Or could it breathe new life into cinema’s most famous spy?

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Here's a detailed article about the breakdown between the Broccoli's and Amazon eventuating in the sale

 

[HomerThompson]

If they've sold the rights i can't see how they'd have much input at all unless it was part of the deal.. which would be odd.

I thought they gave up majority control of creative, not all interest.

 

[Vader]

Off the top of my head Amazon has never done a major theatrical "Let's try to get a billion dollars at the box office" release movie before. Lots of potential for things to go wrong. Reads like they'll be starting from scratch with none of the old Bond people around.

Starting from scratch, with crap like TV series based around Moneypenney, Felix Leiter, and a female 007.

Way to destroy the IP you just spent $1B buying.

 

[Simon_Says]

They essentially did in No Time to Die.

Or maybe they Retcon NDTD and the next film is a spiritual successor to Spectre.

imagine they reboot.... with a cat-and-mouse dual storyline that is very sparse on details and keeps you guessing who actually is Bond until the final scene, maybe with some undercover ruse to keep you guessing. ..

I'm getting the Departed Vibes off that alone.

 

[PoppedCorn]

no prob with cavill or hardy
but it wont matter

as a bond fan...its more than likely all over

 

[AFDogs]

Denis Villeneuve to Direct James Bond Film at Amazon

Denis Villeneuve will direct the next James Bond film, Amazon MGM Studios has announced. He will also executive produce alongside Tanya Lapointe.

variety.com

DENIS VILLENEUVE. HOLY ****.

Bond fans gonna absolutely eat.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Denis Villeneuve to Direct James Bond Film at Amazon

Denis Villeneuve will direct the next James Bond film, Amazon MGM Studios has announced. He will also executive produce alongside Tanya Lapointe.

variety.com

DENIS VILLENEUVE. HOLY ****.

Bond fans gonna absolutely eat.

More bad news.
Bond has gone for tinsel town trash.
Young non JB fans will like it.

 

[Roobs321]

ugh, I guess the Craig era wasn’t serious enough


Thinking back, No Time to Die was in cinemas at the same time as Dune, likewise Spectre & Sicario

 

[crafty_bernardo]

Tinsel town trash?

Skyfall one of the best Bond films was done by Mendes who’s quite Hollywood. They’ve also had Boyle and Fukunaga

Denis is an incredible get.

 

[Vader]

There aren't many directors who I would go out of my way to avoid watching. I loved the Dune movies, so Villeneuve is definitely not in the "must avoid" zone.

The one director who I really dislike is Paul Greengrass - wrecker of Bourne movies & a large part of the reason why Quantum of Solace was such a monumental failure. Greengrass's style of shooting action sequences, by force feeding his camera operators 40 cups of coffee in the hour before filming, arming them with cameras with the steadycam function disabled, cutting the shots so that no single shot lasts for more than 0.3 seconds (thereby eliminating any chance of the viewers following the action), and dressing his protagonists in nearly identical clothing (thereby making them indistinguishable, when combined with the short cuts) - all make his films virtually unwatchable.