Remove this Banner Ad

Opinion Bailey Smith

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

We already moved on from him on field last year. We replaced him in the midfield with Ed. Smith gets all the attention but Ed already is and will remain the better midfielder. If Smith were still with us he’d be spending his time at wing and half forward behind better midfielders like he always was.

Doesn’t need a thread.
I would take Ed in our midfield over Smith every day of the week and twice on Sundays, and Ed doesn’t require a full time handler at the club to boot.
 
How is Mackie the farkwit? We held onto him when he wanted out, same as Dunkley. Was our List Manager a farkwit when we held firm on Treloar? They do what’s best for club. That’s why Port would be better off trading Butters this year if he’s not committing. They can control the deal. Next year he downgrades slightly
There was a strong rumour of a potential trade the previous trade period but to be fair it might be Smith’s Geelong deal was already being worked out by then and it wasn’t a real chance.

Obviously though we would have been better off trading him in 2023. If the Hawthorn trade had been on it would have included the pick that got them Watson.
 
Some of the posters here should read the opening post. The reason for the thread is like or not there was going be a heap discussion about BS so we may have it in the one place and not pollute other threads. if you do not like it to not contribute even better still do not even open it.
That’s what I said about the thread that is no longer with us 🤪
 

Log in to remove this Banner Ad

Obviously though we would have been better off trading him in 2023. If the Hawthorn trade had been on it would have included the pick that got them Watson.
In hindsight, that whole scenario of Geelong 'officially' denying having approached him in 2023 - something I've never seen a club do before - had to have been some kind of longer-term play, with getting him when OOC in 2024 the goal.

If the Geelong/Cotton On deal was the play all along, it would have been interesting to see whether he'd have even been open to going to Hawthorn (on a deal with no Cotton On cash?) a year earlier.
 
I thought the club sat him down when the Hawks offer came through and asked him straight out if he was going to stick around, or does he want to go to the Hawks, this was after the white bag and a few other antics had made the headlines, and his response was that he wanted to do a good preseason and stick with the dogs.

He did his acl, and suddenly Geelong were sniffing. I would say they had been sniffing for awhile, they don’t put any club resources into the draft.
 
He did his acl, and suddenly Geelong were sniffing. I would say they had been sniffing for awhile, they don’t put any club resources into the draft.
I hadn't heard about the Hawthorn stuff - so even if both we and Hawthorn were open to a trade (a pretty good one for us), it sounds like he would have scuttled it.

Geelong were 100% sniffing around in 2023:



I can't find the articles, but after the above was reported, there was some kind of 'official' correspondence from them, saying that the rumours were completely false, "to put the Bulldogs minds at ease".

Under contract in 2023, there was no chance we were letting him go to the Cats or otherwise for less than the equivalent of a top 5 pick. Trading while he was out of contract smashed our leverage (even without accounting for the knee injury) - I wouldn't be surprised if there was a plan for him to wait it out.
 
Taping up players is a thing and we've literally seen it with Sniffy. It'll become a common thing if it isn't already.

Happens in the socer world far too often. Bayern Munich have the playbook and did it more or less "first" - Real Madrid started doing it in the last 5 years - They had Alaba, Rudiger, Mbappe and soon Trent Alexander-Arnold run down their contracts - approximately 600M AUD in player values that they have saved by taping up players and giving them a signing bonus.
 
Not sure of other posters but my full blown angst on BS (Good initials Bull Shit), mine comes for the following reasons:

Positive

1. At full flight he was a great player for us and gave a smaller club a lot of exposure.

Negatives

2. How long out did he have this planned
3, How much involvement did Cotton Oh have behind the scenes.
4, The club did so much to support him in dark times.
5. The worst one we got absolutely screwed on compensation
6. He is now back to 2021 form and this could have been with us.
7. He is now taking smart arse jubes against a club that gave so much
 
Not sure of other posters but my full blown angst on BS (Good initials Bull Shit), mine comes for the following reasons:

Positive

1. At full flight he was a great player for us and gave a smaller club a lot of exposure.

Negatives

2. How long out did he have this planned
3, How much involvement did Cotton Oh have behind the scenes.
4, The club did so much to support him in dark times.
5. The worst one we got absolutely screwed on compensation
6. He is now back to 2021 form and this could have been with us.
7. He is now taking smart arse jubes against a club that gave so much

I really don’t get the point in focusing on the minutiae of what happened probably 2 years ago.

Clubs are bigger than individual players and we’ve moved on and replaced him. Seems like the players were off him and the locker room is a happy place now.

He brought the club far more negative attention than positive over his last few years here. His 300k teenage girl insta followers weren’t doing anything for the club.

The Hawks lost Buddy for a similar pick and then won three flags and Smith is about 5% of the player Buddy was.

If he’d left as a FA then the pick would have only been a few spots higher. Who cares. We got Hynes and hopefully he’s good.

He can talk shit if he wants, he’ll get attention but not respect and that’s his choice. He’s not at our club so it’s not our problem.
 
Not sure of other posters but my full blown angst on BS (Good initials Bull Shit), mine comes for the following reasons:

Positive

1. At full flight he was a great player for us and gave a smaller club a lot of exposure.

Negatives

2. How long out did he have this planned
3, How much involvement did Cotton Oh have behind the scenes.
4, The club did so much to support him in dark times.
5. The worst one we got absolutely screwed on compensation
6. He is now back to 2021 form and this could have been with us.
7. He is now taking smart arse jubes against a club that gave so much
He used to holiday at Torquay every summer - I wouldn’t be surprised if it was in the works back then
 

Posting in here so we don't pollute the other threads with discussions around sniff.

Death by a thousand cuts: The end of Bailey Smith the Bulldog​

There wasn’t one standout moment that ended Bailey Smith’s time at the Bulldogs, it was death by a thousand cuts. Now he’s almost the pantomime villain in a battle between Cats and Dogs.
Lauren WoodLauren Wood

@LaurenHeraldSun

5 min read
May 7, 2025 - 5:00AM
News Sport Network
https://archive.is/xVPoq#comments
7506026e9fb03eea7721cdb751af05cc6084cae0.jpg


AFL: Bailey Smith had a cheeky swipe at his former club, after the Cats pulled off a thriller against the Pies at the MCG.
As one Western Bulldogs figure put it this week, “there wasn’t necessarily one huge moment” where it all fell apart between Bailey Smith and the Dogs.
But when Smith left early during the Bulldogs’ camp in Mooloolaba in January last year, some at the club considered it to be the beginning of the end.
Smith had just done his ACL the month prior and the prospect he had played his last game for the Dogs was starting to become a reality.
If anything, the final 12 months of Smith’s life as a Dog was to some reminiscent of Taylor Swift, where saying goodbye was death by a thousand cuts.

Smith missed the entire 2024 season with a knee injury. Picture: David Crosling

Smith missed the entire 2024 season with a knee injury. Picture: David Crosling
Little moments here, distraction in meetings there, with his ACL rehabilitation and all the “trauma” that came with it before an eventual trade to Geelong the ending blow.
Now all eyes turn to Round 11 in the wake of Smith’s theatrical and comical gibe that he would not be getting that atmosphere in “Ballarat” during the post-script of last Saturday night’s Cats victory.
But not everyone saw it that way. Especially many at the Dogs.
Last Thursday night, a swag of Bulldogs including Marcus Bontempelli and Tom Liberatore were in the North Melbourne rooms in celebration of former teammate Caleb Daniel’s 200th game, with the latter even presenting his mate’s guernsey for the occasion with kind words.
By contrast, some 48 hours later, Smith was delivering wisecracks at his old team on national television.
355c42f87ab7bd982f1f8ec3ebd5c8bd1704f21d.webp

What really happened to the relationship between the Dogs and Bailey Smith?
For many Dogs players, the anticipation for the Round 11 meeting was built far before he let his “no filter” approach out on Fox Footy.
There was no harm intended, but Bulldogs players – some of whom are champing at the bit to face their former teammate for the first time - and fans could be forgiven for wanting the game brought forward to this Thursday, such is the thirst for the bright spotlights the face-off would have already brought but that will no doubt now be further intensified in the wake of Smith’s cheeky post-match jibe.
Tom Liberatore in the Kangaroos’ rooms before Caleb Daniels 200th game. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Tom Liberatore in the Kangaroos’ rooms before Caleb Daniels 200th game. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Talk to those at the Bulldogs and there’s a clear edge.
Talk to those at Geelong and close to Smith, and it’s nothing but love for his former team, as he deeply expressed at the time of his move some six months ago.
Saturday night’s comment wasn’t seen as offensive by many at the Dogs, but it’s safe to say it touched a nerve.
Distasteful, lacking respect and salt in wounds that had almost closed were a few ways that several at the club put it when contacted for their take this week.
Smith was glowing of the Dogs on his departure, and those close to him say his affection remains deep, but his comment that he had “outgrown” Whitten Oval is said to have rankled a few at the Kennel.
“He loves the attention,” former teammate Sam Darcy said in a TV spot on Monday.
“He loves the theatre.”
And Smith is proving the ultimate pantomime villain – the stage’s triple-threat who can prod, post about it and, crucially, play some serious football.
Geelong is happy to embrace the character and all that Smith brings to the Surf Coast, having moved down at the end of last season.
50eaa9376cbd124a672fbe62951269d32c7abbd8.webp

Bulldogs captain Marcus Bontempelli gave Bailey Smith a taste of his own medicine during an appearance on breakfast TV.
Out of the spotlight in one sense, maybe, but firmly in it in another.
Coach Chris Scott has said he wouldn’t want to be coaching a whole team of Bailey Smiths, but the sentiment is strong at the Cats that individual personalities are embraced and he will remain no different.
Smith, 24, is considered cheeky in nature and anything but aggressive towards his former side, though there’s been a suggestion that a few of his former midfield mates might not feel the same come Round 11.
They drafted him, developed him and supported him through his ACL tear, though they ultimately satisfied his trade request to Geelong.
His departure was the climax to a build-up of moments: Of being in meetings while rehabbing a knee – and sometimes not – of a flexible training arrangement that included a trip to Europe in winter last year and eventually, a fairly mutual break-up after simply falling out of love.
He’d been granted personal leave by the club in 2021, having earlier opened up on his mental health battle, later that year completing his training remotely as he navigated personal issues, and then the ACL rupture came at training in December of 2023.
It all, former coach Luke Beveridge revealed on Tuesday, may have simply been the perfect storm.
“I don’t really want to provide any commentary on (whether Smith checked out mentally last year,” he said.
Smith faces his former side in round 11. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images

Smith faces his former side in round 11. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images
“I think what happens with any player – and Libba’s (Tom Liberatore) probably one to talk about that with his two knee reconstructions – is that they go through the trauma and the hardship of the rehabilitation, it affects you emotionally, psychologically.
“And your physical presence and how you carry yourself over the recuperation period is a real challenge.
“So whether he was here or not, or any of the challenges, I just accept that everyone deals with it in different ways and that was Bailey’s. And ultimately, him moving to Geelong seems like it’s been a good move for him and a good move for Geelong, and we’re going OK, so no heartache.”
Saturday night’s Ballarat barb – in an on-ground interview minutes after the final siren in the Cats’ three-point win over Collingwood, was the result, some close to Smith say, of a lot of adrenaline and not much filter.
The Cats are relaxed about boundary riders making a beeline for Smith, no doubt anticipating a moment just like that one. He doesn’t love the idea of doing sit-down interviews, but it’s when the adrenaline is pumping that he is raw and real.
“It’s going to be interesting, if people keep grabbing him straight after a game,” Beveridge said.
Smith’s Ballarat barb has set the stage for a true blockbuster. Picture: Michael Klein

Smith’s Ballarat barb has set the stage for a true blockbuster. Picture: Michael Klein
“I’m not sure whether Geelong are going to like that every week. But it’s just the way he rolls.
“There’s no real filter with Baz, so you come to accept that and I don’t think it’s going to change.
“I do (think it was cheeky rather than pointed), I think that’s just the way he is. He will tell you – it’s just the way I am. I don’t have a filter. He doesn’t try and hide from it, while those around him try and calm him down.”
He watched the comment live, and welcomed “interesting theatre”, but has parked it until Round 11 rolls around.
It could yet be revisited, of course.
Why the game was scheduled for GMHBA Stadium has many also wondering – wouldn’t a full house at Marvel Stadium in front of the Bulldogs faithful have been a real test of if the feeling in this one is real, rather than a majority crowd of Cats supporters who will no doubt be in full voice for their new golden boy.
56c5201557b53d61c98c5bdc6767165caf6074be.jpg

AFL: Geelong star Max Holmes joined the Fox Footy panel following the Cat's win and was questioned on Bailey Smith inclusion in the team and knowledge on the team song!
Captain Marcus Bontempelli was ready on Sunday with his line to hit back at Smith, and just how much feeling the Dogs will have ready come Round 11 has a few weeks still to simmer.
The Bailey Smith Experience at Geelong’s Sphinx Hotel on Wednesday night – a paid pub appearance that includes an interview and audience Q&A - didn’t pass by unnoticed at Whitten Oval with many a raised eyebrow.
But as for what awaits in 16 days’ time, it depends on who you talk to.
“I don’t know (if the animosity from my players is real),” Beveridge said, smiling.
“I suppose we’ll find out in a couple of weeks, won’t we? Hopefully we’ll be disciplined.”
Pack the popcorn just in case.

 

Remove this Banner Ad

Also I don't think he has been that much better for the Cats than his first half of 2022 and he has even sniffed the stuff he showed in the semi or prelim from 2021.
 
I really don’t get the point in focusing on the minutiae of what happened probably 2 years ago.

Clubs are bigger than individual players and we’ve moved on and replaced him. Seems like the players were off him and the locker room is a happy place now.

He brought the club far more negative attention than positive over his last few years here. His 300k teenage girl insta followers weren’t doing anything for the club.

The Hawks lost Buddy for a similar pick and then won three flags and Smith is about 5% of the player Buddy was.

If he’d left as a FA then the pick would have only been a few spots higher. Who cares. We got Hynes and hopefully he’s good.

He can talk shit if he wants, he’ll get attention but not respect and that’s his choice. He’s not at our club so it’s not our problem.
I think my biggest grievances are:

1. A few spots higher potentially makes a bit difference depending on how we rated Cooper vs Murphy Reid or Joe Berry; and

2. The supposed threats to other clubs that he wouldn’t play for them if drafted, and supposed threats by Connors management that their would be consequences beyond Smith (i.e. existing Connors managed players, future trades) if they did (unsubstantiated). Geelong offered value on this basis.

All we needed to to get fair value was a credible threat from Saints, Richmond, etc. that they’d select Smith in the open draft before the Geelong pick. Richmond selected Hotton with an ACL who won’t play this year at pick 12. I find it hard to believe they wouldn’t take Smith over him on their list in a heartbeat if not compromised from doing so.
 

Posting in here so we don't pollute the other threads with discussions around sniff.

Death by a thousand cuts: The end of Bailey Smith the Bulldog​

There wasn’t one standout moment that ended Bailey Smith’s time at the Bulldogs, it was death by a thousand cuts. Now he’s almost the pantomime villain in a battle between Cats and Dogs.
Lauren WoodLauren Wood

@LaurenHeraldSun

5 min read
May 7, 2025 - 5:00AM
News Sport Network
https://archive.is/xVPoq#comments
7506026e9fb03eea7721cdb751af05cc6084cae0.jpg


AFL: Bailey Smith had a cheeky swipe at his former club, after the Cats pulled off a thriller against the Pies at the MCG.
As one Western Bulldogs figure put it this week, “there wasn’t necessarily one huge moment” where it all fell apart between Bailey Smith and the Dogs.
But when Smith left early during the Bulldogs’ camp in Mooloolaba in January last year, some at the club considered it to be the beginning of the end.
Smith had just done his ACL the month prior and the prospect he had played his last game for the Dogs was starting to become a reality.
If anything, the final 12 months of Smith’s life as a Dog was to some reminiscent of Taylor Swift, where saying goodbye was death by a thousand cuts.

Smith missed the entire 2024 season with a knee injury. Picture: David Crosling

Smith missed the entire 2024 season with a knee injury. Picture: David Crosling
Little moments here, distraction in meetings there, with his ACL rehabilitation and all the “trauma” that came with it before an eventual trade to Geelong the ending blow.
Now all eyes turn to Round 11 in the wake of Smith’s theatrical and comical gibe that he would not be getting that atmosphere in “Ballarat” during the post-script of last Saturday night’s Cats victory.
But not everyone saw it that way. Especially many at the Dogs.
Last Thursday night, a swag of Bulldogs including Marcus Bontempelli and Tom Liberatore were in the North Melbourne rooms in celebration of former teammate Caleb Daniel’s 200th game, with the latter even presenting his mate’s guernsey for the occasion with kind words.
By contrast, some 48 hours later, Smith was delivering wisecracks at his old team on national television.
355c42f87ab7bd982f1f8ec3ebd5c8bd1704f21d.webp

What really happened to the relationship between the Dogs and Bailey Smith?
For many Dogs players, the anticipation for the Round 11 meeting was built far before he let his “no filter” approach out on Fox Footy.
There was no harm intended, but Bulldogs players – some of whom are champing at the bit to face their former teammate for the first time - and fans could be forgiven for wanting the game brought forward to this Thursday, such is the thirst for the bright spotlights the face-off would have already brought but that will no doubt now be further intensified in the wake of Smith’s cheeky post-match jibe.
Tom Liberatore in the Kangaroos’ rooms before Caleb Daniels 200th game. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Tom Liberatore in the Kangaroos’ rooms before Caleb Daniels 200th game. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Talk to those at the Bulldogs and there’s a clear edge.
Talk to those at Geelong and close to Smith, and it’s nothing but love for his former team, as he deeply expressed at the time of his move some six months ago.
Saturday night’s comment wasn’t seen as offensive by many at the Dogs, but it’s safe to say it touched a nerve.
Distasteful, lacking respect and salt in wounds that had almost closed were a few ways that several at the club put it when contacted for their take this week.
Smith was glowing of the Dogs on his departure, and those close to him say his affection remains deep, but his comment that he had “outgrown” Whitten Oval is said to have rankled a few at the Kennel.
“He loves the attention,” former teammate Sam Darcy said in a TV spot on Monday.
“He loves the theatre.”
And Smith is proving the ultimate pantomime villain – the stage’s triple-threat who can prod, post about it and, crucially, play some serious football.
Geelong is happy to embrace the character and all that Smith brings to the Surf Coast, having moved down at the end of last season.
50eaa9376cbd124a672fbe62951269d32c7abbd8.webp

Bulldogs captain Marcus Bontempelli gave Bailey Smith a taste of his own medicine during an appearance on breakfast TV.
Out of the spotlight in one sense, maybe, but firmly in it in another.
Coach Chris Scott has said he wouldn’t want to be coaching a whole team of Bailey Smiths, but the sentiment is strong at the Cats that individual personalities are embraced and he will remain no different.
Smith, 24, is considered cheeky in nature and anything but aggressive towards his former side, though there’s been a suggestion that a few of his former midfield mates might not feel the same come Round 11.
They drafted him, developed him and supported him through his ACL tear, though they ultimately satisfied his trade request to Geelong.
His departure was the climax to a build-up of moments: Of being in meetings while rehabbing a knee – and sometimes not – of a flexible training arrangement that included a trip to Europe in winter last year and eventually, a fairly mutual break-up after simply falling out of love.
He’d been granted personal leave by the club in 2021, having earlier opened up on his mental health battle, later that year completing his training remotely as he navigated personal issues, and then the ACL rupture came at training in December of 2023.
It all, former coach Luke Beveridge revealed on Tuesday, may have simply been the perfect storm.
“I don’t really want to provide any commentary on (whether Smith checked out mentally last year,” he said.
Smith faces his former side in round 11. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images

Smith faces his former side in round 11. Picture: Quinn Rooney/Getty Images
“I think what happens with any player – and Libba’s (Tom Liberatore) probably one to talk about that with his two knee reconstructions – is that they go through the trauma and the hardship of the rehabilitation, it affects you emotionally, psychologically.
“And your physical presence and how you carry yourself over the recuperation period is a real challenge.
“So whether he was here or not, or any of the challenges, I just accept that everyone deals with it in different ways and that was Bailey’s. And ultimately, him moving to Geelong seems like it’s been a good move for him and a good move for Geelong, and we’re going OK, so no heartache.”
Saturday night’s Ballarat barb – in an on-ground interview minutes after the final siren in the Cats’ three-point win over Collingwood, was the result, some close to Smith say, of a lot of adrenaline and not much filter.
The Cats are relaxed about boundary riders making a beeline for Smith, no doubt anticipating a moment just like that one. He doesn’t love the idea of doing sit-down interviews, but it’s when the adrenaline is pumping that he is raw and real.
“It’s going to be interesting, if people keep grabbing him straight after a game,” Beveridge said.
Smith’s Ballarat barb has set the stage for a true blockbuster. Picture: Michael Klein

Smith’s Ballarat barb has set the stage for a true blockbuster. Picture: Michael Klein
“I’m not sure whether Geelong are going to like that every week. But it’s just the way he rolls.
“There’s no real filter with Baz, so you come to accept that and I don’t think it’s going to change.
“I do (think it was cheeky rather than pointed), I think that’s just the way he is. He will tell you – it’s just the way I am. I don’t have a filter. He doesn’t try and hide from it, while those around him try and calm him down.”
He watched the comment live, and welcomed “interesting theatre”, but has parked it until Round 11 rolls around.
It could yet be revisited, of course.
Why the game was scheduled for GMHBA Stadium has many also wondering – wouldn’t a full house at Marvel Stadium in front of the Bulldogs faithful have been a real test of if the feeling in this one is real, rather than a majority crowd of Cats supporters who will no doubt be in full voice for their new golden boy.
56c5201557b53d61c98c5bdc6767165caf6074be.jpg

AFL: Geelong star Max Holmes joined the Fox Footy panel following the Cat's win and was questioned on Bailey Smith inclusion in the team and knowledge on the team song!
Captain Marcus Bontempelli was ready on Sunday with his line to hit back at Smith, and just how much feeling the Dogs will have ready come Round 11 has a few weeks still to simmer.
The Bailey Smith Experience at Geelong’s Sphinx Hotel on Wednesday night – a paid pub appearance that includes an interview and audience Q&A - didn’t pass by unnoticed at Whitten Oval with many a raised eyebrow.
But as for what awaits in 16 days’ time, it depends on who you talk to.
“I don’t know (if the animosity from my players is real),” Beveridge said, smiling.
“I suppose we’ll find out in a couple of weeks, won’t we? Hopefully we’ll be disciplined.”
Pack the popcorn just in case.

By the by, the writing in that report is absolute dog shit
 
I notice these days the use of the term "he doesn't have a filter" used a lot as an excuse for people like Smith mouthing off. As if the poor things can't help it as they weren't born with one, like its some birth defect that we have to understand and have tolerance for.
Talk about woke bs. We used to call them big mouth smart arses and sit em back on their backsides when they mouthed off. Guess what, suddenly they had filters.
 

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Look at our club and our supporters respect for Daniel, Macrae, even Dunkley and contrast that with the complete disdain for Sniff. Speaks volumes.

Also, why the hell are we having to travel to play Cotton On at that s***hole yet again? Every year bar maybe one or two for the last 20 I would say.
 
No such thing as bad publicity , I guess. I didn't crack a smile but I'm quite old.

I guess he gets more $$$$ for taking the piss out of our club. Fuel for the fire lads 🔥
 
Meh. Nothing wrong with some theatre. We only took it personal because our crowd number got insulted on live TV.

The thing is though, when you talk the talk, you wouldn’t want to play poorly in a couple weeks time. And if you have a lean patch, good luck with the media vultures.
 
Having to give away that crap beer because no one buys it.
Smith fancies Nostril Lager himself.

I would happily sacrifice Oskar Baker to take him out early with a shirt front. Smith loses the plot when physically targeted. Tag him, smash him.

Watch him headbutt one of our blokes and send him into a spiral of stupidity.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Opinion Bailey Smith

Similar threads

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Back
Top