News Barassi: Bucks Should Walk

[Dynamics]

Ron Barassi says if we win the 2012 premiership, Nathan Buckley should walk away from Collingwood.

I think Ron Barassi should lengthen his moustache into a full handlebar just to see how it looks. Never mind the fact that my opinion is half-baked, uninformed and irrelevant, I think it should make it into the newspapers because I have grown many a moustache in my time, and I am therefore an expert on Ron's facial hair.

But Ron did say he "likes" Eddie, which is sweet of him.

The tabloids are once again trying to stir up "trouble" with this Mick vs Nathan thing:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/walk-away-from-collingwood-nathan-buckley-ron-barrassi-urges-collingwood/story-e6frf9jf-1226021429283

FOOTY great Ron Barassi has urged Nathan Buckley to walk away from Collingwood's coaching succession plan if the Pies go back-to-back.



Barassi says it is Buckley - not Mick Malthouse - who must do the honourable thing.

"They're probably leaving it go for the moment, but I think someone should come forward and I think Bucks is the man," he said yesterday.

When asked what Buckley should do, Barassi said: "Well, (he should) say: 'Look, I know I've got the contract and all that sort of stuff, but it doesn't make sense to tip (Mick) out' - particularly if he has a good year ... and he's still on top of things and they win the premiership.

"Bucks should be wise enough about football to know that. And, also, if he made the great gesture, I mean, well, he would be the big winner."

Under the terms of the deal signed in July, 2009, Malthouse will surrender the senior coaching job to Buckley at the end of this season and become director of coaching for another three years.

Asked if he would have agreed to such an arrangement, Barassi said: "Only if I felt that I was getting towards the end because of tiredness or was just getting sick of it. But no, I don't think I would otherwise.

"He (Mick) obviously can't keep going forever. But I think he has demonstrated that he's in top form at the moment. I'd be surprised if they (Collingwood chiefs) hadn't discussed the situation that might occur on October 1 (Grand Final day).

"Often when you make an unusual decision, which they did, there are things that are unforeseen. And they're looking good at the moment and are probably favourites for the whole of the year."

Four-time premiership coach Leigh Matthews said last week he expected Malthouse to coach Collingwood in 2012 should they win this year's flag.

The Pies hit back in yesterday's Herald Sun, describing Matthews' opinion as "insignificant" within the club.

But Barassi said the issue had the potential to become a mess.

"It has the potential. And that's why they're probably not discussing it except in very tight circles where it won't get out," he said.

"Maybe they weren't as confident (when the deal was done) as they are now. But I'm sure this scenario was run past them ... but back then, two premierships in a row seemed a long way off."

Barassi said he believed Collingwood's administration under president Eddie McGuire was the club's best and most innovative in 60 years.

He said the Malthouse-Buckley dilemma would have already been discussed at the highest levels.

"My guess would be that. And it would be very, very tight - it might even just be the president with himself," he quipped.

"I like him (McGuire). He's done a great job for the Magpies."

 

[Kirby]

It must be a slow news day.

 

[Dynamics]

It must be a slow news day.

Yep. Nothing's happening? Call a former coach and ask them what they think of Collingwood. There's your story.

 

[The Press]

Its going to be a long year.....

 

[loki04]

I'm of the belief Bucks is a big part of the reason we won the flag in the first place, if Bucks didn't come would we of seen same old same olds running around out there again? would we have seen the forward press work the way it did? I doubt it.

However I do see if we go back to back that Buckley would be on a hiding to nothing, 2012 win the flag with him as senior coach and he wont get credit it was expected a monkey could of did it, conversely lose it and he will be hailed shit and we stuffed up.

I'm all for him taking over but I could see if he felt un easy about it.

 

[daics cousin]

Buckley will be senior coach in 2012 whether Malthouse wins the flag or not.

If Malthouse wins back to back flags then fantastic,i would say great and he has finally done his job.What must be considered is that at the end of this year Malthouse has been at collingwood for nearly 12 years.

Time for Bucks to take over next year,and really all the detractors and so called experts,don't realise how much imput Buckley has had on us winning the flag last and will have this year.

Buckley will be the innovator when he takes over wait and see,Malty is good developing young players but his game plans are too old style.

So bring on Bucks in 2012 and thank you Mick !

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Does anyone really give a shit what Barassi thinks any more? The guy is a bigger media whore than Kim Duthie.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Heres a scenario.

What if Collingwood folds to public pressure and tells Buckley he cant have his job. He then looks at his four year apprenticeship in media/coaching and sees it extended indefinitely. After all if you are going to extent Malthouse's contract, you are not going to do it for just one year, you'll do it for three.

So Buckley looks around for another gig. He sees an up and coming side like Carlton looking for a new coach and he jumps at the opportunity to be a senior coach, after being dudded by Maguire and knifed by Malthouse.

The playing list then finds themselves in the middle of a shit storm because Collingwood has boned its favorite son and coach-in-waiting. GWS come in and poach some disgruntled superstars. Collingwood in 2012 under Malthouse, miss the finals. Malthouse will be under pressure to keep his job. Miss the finals in 2013 again and he's out. And we have neither Buckley (who will never return) or Malthouse. And we'll have lost Pendelbury or similar. And we'll have to start searching for a new President and CEO.

This scenario is not out of the question. You dont just create team harmony overnight. Its something you have to work at. Going back on the Buckley/Malthouse arrangement could rip the club apart.

Collingwood will simply NOT bone Buckley. He will coach Collingwood in 2012.

 

[Zahki]

Collingwood will simply NOT bone Buckley. He will coach Collingwood in 2012.

Where in the article does Barassi suggest that Collingwood should bone Buckley?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Where in the article does Barassi suggest that Collingwood should bone Buckley?

Its implied.

Why would anybody walk away from a senior coaching position before they even started it?

If Buckley decided to commit hari-kari, Malthouse and Maguire would be implicated by the media and the public in a conspiracy.

There is NO upside in Buckley volunteering to step aside. Even if it was done with all the right intentions the media would still twist the story to suit themselves.

 

[MarkT2]

Barassi is a self confessed Collingwood hater and his views on anything Collingwood should be trated with the contempt they deserve.

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

It's laughable that all these so-called experts can't fathom that - even IF we win back-to-back - the transition can still happen smoothly.

Why wouldn't Mick bow out at the top of his game and therefore be remembered as a great coach and an even better person. A man of his word? A friend and mentor to Bucks, and a man passionate about the club he works for and who has given him the utmost loyalty.

It's because they're small-minded enough not to see outside of their own reality bubble.

Poor form Barassi.

 

[mattys123]

WHO?

 

[Histrionics]

Its going to be a long year.....

This.

There will be at least one story a week til the end of the year about Malthouse/Buckley.

 

[handy point]

Barassi is a self confessed Collingwood hater and his views on anything Collingwood should be trated with the contempt they deserve.

Precisely. I'm going a little tinfoil hat here, but IMO there are quite a few in the football world who aren't pleased by the Pies ascendancy, and are stirring up as much as possible to disturb the progress.

 

[mattys123]

Gary Pert said it the other day, and Maxy said it last year, articles like this, and the people's opinion who write articles like this, are, to the Collingwood Football Club;

IRRELEVANT.

 

[Zahki]

Gary Pert said it the other day, and Maxy said it last year, articles like this, and the people's opinion who write articles like this, are, to the Collingwood Football Club;

IRRELEVANT.

Then again so is the truth.

 

[Pluggeroo]

If it were me, and I know its not me, I wouldnt be happy. If I coached back to back Premierships, I'd want the job for 2012, even if the great Jerusalem full back, Jesus Christ was touted as being the next coach.

In my opinion its a lot easier for the man that has it to keep it, than it is for the man that wants it to get it.

There will be more to play out, yet.

Imagine Mick at carlton? All we can hope is for the blues lose the first 6 games and Ratten is replaced as early as mid season.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

If it were me I'd be glad I was given an unprecedented ten years without being sacked before winning a flag.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Barassi didn't really say "Leave Collingwood". Pretty sure he meant leave the coaching job on hold for one more year.

Again, this is something I've suggested many times. Wouldn't surprise me if Bucks did it too.

But then, why? I still credit Nathan for a lot of that flag so I don't see why Mick should keep going. What is so wrong with letting a revered coach end his (senior coaching) career on a high?

 

[CousinOfModra]

If it were me, and I know its not me, I wouldnt be happy. If I coached back to back Premierships, I'd want the job for 2012, even if the great Jerusalem full back, Jesus Christ was touted as being the next coach.

In my opinion its a lot easier for the man that has it to keep it, than it is for the man that wants it to get it.

There will be more to play out, yet.

Imagine Mick at carlton? All we can hope is for the blues lose the first 6 games and Ratten is replaced as early as mid season.

Mate. Jesus played a CHB for Jerusalem.

Just clearing that up.

 

[TradeDraft]

Heres a scenario.

What if Collingwood folds to public pressure and tells Buckley he cant have his job. He then looks at his four year apprenticeship in media/coaching and sees it extended indefinitely. After all if you are going to extent Malthouse's contract, you are not going to do it for just one year, you'll do it for three.

So Buckley looks around for another gig. He sees an up and coming side like Carlton looking for a new coach and he jumps at the opportunity to be a senior coach, after being dudded by Maguire and knifed by Malthouse.

The playing list then finds themselves in the middle of a shit storm because Collingwood has boned its favorite son and coach-in-waiting. GWS come in and poach some disgruntled superstars. Collingwood in 2012 under Malthouse, miss the finals. Malthouse will be under pressure to keep his job. Miss the finals in 2013 again and he's out. And we have neither Buckley (who will never return) or Malthouse. And we'll have lost Pendelbury or similar. And we'll have to start searching for a new President and CEO.

This scenario is not out of the question. You dont just create team harmony overnight. Its something you have to work at. Going back on the Buckley/Malthouse arrangement could rip the club apart.

Collingwood will simply NOT bone Buckley. He will coach Collingwood in 2012.

Just shows the Media is trying to Ruin the Pies

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Just shows the Media is trying to Ruin the Pies

They certainly dont want our innovations to be successful, hence the campaign against rotations and now the fruitless attempts to criticise our coaching arrangement which has already brought a flag so has already been a success, irrespective of what happens in the future.

The same people criticising our Buckley/Malthouse arrangement were just a few years earlier criticising us for holding too long to a failed coach with a crap game plan and terrible recruiting. There were even some Collingwood supporters starting believe what they read.

 

[HFF]

I support every decision this football club makes because they have ever rarely let us down, however, I do like the idea of "shelving" the succession plan if MM goes back2back.

Bucks can come out looking so much better if he is the one that is prepared to make the "sacrifice" for the team and the football club. It will really show impeccable character, loyalty and team-man-ship and this will even send a clear/strong message to Mick that such selflessness and loyalty will not go un-rewarded for when the time is right for him to pass the torch (i.e. him honouring his promise to stay around for the entire 5yrs he is contracted to).

 

[docks]

Firstly I think Mick is great and I support him all the way, but the odds of Collingwood going back to back are pretty high, if he does (and it is still a big if e.g injuries can decimate a season) the chances of winning three in a row would be huge. Why wouldn't you want to bring in someone new with fresh ideas and a new approach. If Malthouse wants to go to Carlton I don't have a problem at all, it took him 11 years to win one with Collingwood so I would think it would be even longer at Carlton.
If Barrassi is making comments like this the rest of the AFL must be pretty scared of back to back which gives me a hell of a lot of confidence for 2011