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Re: Would the Hawks be interested in Ben Cousins?

chrismew said:
He will play football again, and next year when he announces he is coming back to football, watch every Melbourne based club chase him.

It will be bigger than the Judd auction, and he will go top 10 in whatever draft he enters.

I have said this before, if he was committed to staying clean, and had stringent clauses inserted into his contract, I would have no problem with Ben Cousins coming to Hawthorn. If he comes back, he will be the most drug tested athlete in history.

He will only be 30, is extremely fit, is very much like Robert Harvey in how he plays, and he could have another 2-3 years left in him. Remember, in his comeback game he had 30 plus possessions. He could be the difference between a club being a finals contender, and winning a premiership.

I think we are all jumping the gun, he has a very serious health issue to overcome, and only when has got his life back together, should he contemplate coming back to football.

I for one, hope he comes back better than ever, because I used to love watching him play.
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Question: How many players over 30 do you know who made successful comebacks to top level footy after missing the best part of 2 years of footy? And by successful, I mean back to somewhere near his absolute best.

I would imagine the answer is none. Wayne Carey couldn't manage it, so why would Cousins? Any club which uses a top 10 pick on Cousins are out of their minds.
 
Re: Would the Hawks be interested in Ben Cousins?

Adelaide Hawk said:
Question: How many players over 30 do you know who made successful comebacks to top level footy after missing the best part of 2 years of footy? And by successful, I mean back to somewhere near his absolute best.

I would imagine the answer is none. Wayne Carey couldn't manage it, so why would Cousins? Any club which uses a top 10 pick on Cousins are out of their minds.
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I take your point, there has been none that I can think of.

If anybody can do it, I would be betting on Cousins, because fitnesswise he is a freak, and he would have to be in top 5 of the fittest blokes in the AFL.

And he will be a high draft pick, because you should never underestimate the stupidity of clubs, wishing to top up their lists for a tilt at a premiership, (eg St Kilda, Port Adelaide, Hawthorn) or looking for a quick rebuild, (eg Carlton, Richmond, Melbourne).

Whether it would be wise, taking Cousins as a high draft pick, only time will tell.
 
Re: Would the Hawks be interested in Ben Cousins?

chrismew said:
I take your point, there has been none that I can think of.

If anybody can do it, I would be betting on Cousins, because fitnesswise he is a freak, and he would have to be in top 5 of the fittest blokes in the AFL.

And he will be a high draft pick, because you should never underestimate the stupidity of clubs, wishing to top up their lists for a tilt at a premiership, (eg St Kilda, Port Adelaide, Hawthorn) or looking for a quick rebuild, (eg Carlton, Richmond, Melbourne).

Whether it would be wise, taking Cousins as a high draft pick, only time will tell.
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I guess the thing that bemuses me the most is this perception amongst the football public that securing a Judd or a Cousins is some guarantee of success.

West Coast, who still has a wonderful list without them, had BOTH of them, and could only manage one flag, and that was by 1 point. They could have easily had none.

I was once an enormous fan of Cousins and would given anything to get him to the Hawks. I just wonder, after all that has transpired, if we may discover the presence of Cousins in the West Coast team may have been more an obstacle than an asset. I also wonder if, had the Eagles sacked Cousins earlier, then Judd may still be running around in blue & gold in 2008.
 
Re: Would the Hawks be interested in Ben Cousins?

Adelaide Hawk said:
I was once an enormous fan of Cousins and would given anything to get him to the Hawks. I just wonder, after all that has transpired, if we may discover the presence of Cousins in the West Coast team may have been more an obstacle than an asset. I also wonder if, had the Eagles sacked Cousins earlier, then Judd may still be running around in blue & gold in 2008.
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Cousin was an obstacle in 2007, before that he was definitely was an asset in 2006 and before that. He did spend 11 years (a bloody long time) at the club. He won't play again which is sad.

Also I know that everyone thinks Judd is Jesus Christ, but if he wanted to stay at West Coast and wanted Cousins out. The management would have gotten rid of Cousins in an heartbeat. To blame Cousins for Judd leaving is now fashionable. But his best mate at West Coast was Kerr. Judd left for either a) huge player behavior problem (that extends past Cousins b) big money in Melbourne c) to go back home d) all of the above.

Anyway, thats my opinion
 

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Re: Would the Hawks be interested in Ben Cousins?

Won't be clean by then. And hypothetically if he was, i wouldnt want him driving 2 strikes around late at night.
 
Could we get Cousins?

Just a thought. Take him away from his WA influences. I bet he's still a gun. Another string to the centre bow.
We need something to cover these injuries. Start of the year it semed we had almost limitless depth now it appears we're half a team and fatigue is setting in.
 
Re: Could we get Cousins?

garygee said:
Just a thought. Take him away from his WA influences. I bet he's still a gun. Another string to the centre bow.
We need something to cover these injuries. Start of the year it semed we had almost limitless depth now it appears we're half a team and fatigue is setting in.
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Just a thought..Go away
 
Re: Could we get Cousins?

Sign him to Box Hill! get him there, would improve them dramatically. Improve them dramatically and that improves our fringe player confidence who spend time at BHH... Improve them and when we have injuries it means we have better players to come in...
 

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Re: Could we get Cousins?

Mitchell Madness said:
Sign him to Box Hill! get him there, would improve them dramatically. Improve them dramatically and that improves our fringe player confidence who spend time at BHH... Improve them and when we have injuries it means we have better players to come in...
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I'm pretty sure he can't play with any club aligned with an AFL club
 
Re: Could we get Cousins?

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Not worth the bother.
 

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Re: Could we get Cousins?

An All-Australian, Premiership Captain, Brownlow Medallist, Elite Runner, Elite Sprinter, Super Strong, Super Fit, Sensational Football Skills, Brilliant onfield Leader, A Promise of having Reformed, for next to nothing while we about to have a tilt at a Premiership? :eek::eek::eek:

Whatever makes you think we could humble enough to admit we could use someone like that? :rolleyes:
 
Re: Could we get Cousins?

CouchPotato said:
Ben Cousins is an out and out superstar of the game.

Would I like him at the hawks - you bet - but the baggage omg the baggage

It would not be worth the backlash
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I honestly think it would be. If he's sorted himself out, he'd be a huge plus to have in the midfield. Who cares what other people say?
 
Re: Could we get Cousins?

Merit, Skill-wise he would probably be one of our top 4 players, however you have to remember the reason hes avalable.
How much do we want to win a premiership? will another Lapse cause our brand to be tarnished? or will people view it as "cousins fault" insted of "hawthorns fault" because he can still play a massive role in our team going towards a 10th premiership
 

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