Big Cricket Thread

[Truckosaurus]

So what have we learned so far?

• McDermott has reverted to type (i.e. not up to international standard)
• Finch is still past it
• Agar should not open
• Seriously Finch, just retire
• Bowling depth is still great
• Inglis looks good, I know it's Sri Lanka but their bowling is the closest thing they have to a strength

 

[THE A5]

Seeing SL having two quicks bowling express pace is quite refreshing. Man those two will be quite depressed when they get home and have to slave away on dustbowls.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Yeah Agar is much better suited to come in at 6 or 7 and crash and bash. Definitely cannot score consistently enough to be a short-form opener, way too many dots.

I really hope Jhye Richardson gets a shot with Australia in various forms and doesn't end up as a potentially great player who just ended up blocked because his prime came at the same time as three other great fast bowlers. His first class average is elite and he's got a lot of variations for T20. I do wonder if he would be as effective overseas as he is in Australia, he seems to use the pace and bounce really well. But we'll never really know unless he gets an extended chance.

 

[THE A5]

So what have we learned so far?

• McDermott has reverted to type (i.e. not up to international standard)
• Finch is still past it
• Agar should not open
• Seriously Finch, just retire
• Bowling depth is still great
• Inglis looks good, I know it's Sri Lanka but their bowling is the closest thing they have to a strength

Funny how the bloke who look out of sorts in the BBL stepped up to international standards and the bloke who set the comp on fire struggling for Aus

 

[Tugga27]

Inglis making it real hard to drop him.
Surely Smith doesn't come back and Finch is finished.
McDermott isn't international quality.

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Inglis making it real hard to drop him.
Surely Smith doesn't come back and Finch is finished.
McDermott isn't international quality.

Even in Smith's prime he was never a great T20 player. Career strike rate of 125 in T20 as a middle order batsman which isn't terrible, but hardly in the league of some others. Very handy when one or both of the openers fail and you need to rebuild (because he's so good at rotating the strike, at the very least) but if the openers fire you'd normally be elevating the more explosive middle order batsman above him. Now that he's past his peak it makes sense to move on from Smith and give other promising younger T20 players a go. It's honestly hard for me to recall anything that Smith did during the recent World Cup, pretty much every other batsman made more of an impact, even if (like Wade) it was mostly in one match or another.

 

[Dazzler9]

Even in Smith's prime he was never a great T20 player. Career strike rate of 125 in T20 as a middle order batsman which isn't terrible, but hardly in the league of some others. Very handy when one or both of the openers fail and you need to rebuild (because he's so good at rotating the strike, at the very least) but if the openers fire you'd normally be elevating the more explosive middle order batsman above him. Now that he's past his peak it makes sense to move on from Smith and give other promising younger T20 players a go. It's honestly hard for me to recall anything that Smith did during the recent World Cup, pretty much every other batsman made more of an impact, even if (like Wade) it was mostly in one match or another.

A bit premature to say Smith has passed his peak. It may very well be that he never again ascends the ridiculous heights he reached a few years ago, but he's right in his prime.

Having said that, there's better T20 players going around.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Faulkner leaves PSL after payment row with PCB

The PCB have rejected his accusations, calling his behaviour "reprehensible" and declaring he would not be a part of future PSL drafts

www.espncricinfo.com

Is that out? I think that's out.

 

[Ochre]

Faulkner leaves PSL after payment row with PCB

The PCB have rejected his accusations, calling his behaviour "reprehensible" and declaring he would not be a part of future PSL drafts

www.espncricinfo.com

Is that out? I think that's out.

Amazing how T20 has revolutionised cricket to introduce new tactics we'd never have imagine previously

 

[WCE_phil]

TBH I'd be taking Faulkner's word here over the PCB. Their record on integrity is similar to Russia or China and voting or civil rights.

 

[Dazzler9]

TBH I'd be taking Faulkner's word here over the PCB. Their record on integrity is similar to Russia or China and voting or civil rights.

Faulkner's always been a bit of a strange cat though.

 

[Ochre]

Faulkner's always been a bit of a strange cat though.

Yeah, this is the second team that Faulkners quit over money issues in a few months. Sounds like this one is on Faulkner by all reports

 

[Dazzler9]

WHat a great franchise name.

He further threatened and refused to participate in his side's match against Multan Sultans on Friday afternoon until his money demands were met.

 

[WCE_phil]

Faulkner's always been a bit of a strange cat though.

Absolutely no dispute there. But the fact he paid for the damages himself straight away before leaving or just getting out of there shows that whilst he got really angry, he was able to compose himself and do the right thing.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Faulkner's always been a bit of a strange cat though.

Oh like you haven't thrown a batting helmet onto a hotel chandelier.

 

[WCE_phil]

Oh like you haven't thrown a batting helmet onto a hotel chandelier.

TBH he was probably throwing it at the PCB official. He's just lost a bit of accuracy with age.

 

[Dazzler9]

Absolutely no dispute there. But the fact he paid for the damages himself straight away before leaving or just getting out of there shows that whilst he got really angry, he was able to compose himself and do the right thing.

According to the article he was paid 70% of his fee into a British account and then advised he wanted to change his account to an Australian based one and demanded the 70% be paid again into that one, before returning the initial payment. That's odd.

 

[Ochre]

According to the articl he was paid 70% of his fee into a British account and then advised he wanted to change his account to an Australian based one and demanded the 70% be paid again into that one, before returning the initial payment. That's odd.

Apparently he gave them the wrong details, and then when he gave them the correct details, the PCB wouldn't pay it into the new account until the first payment was refunded by the bank.

 

[WCE_phil]

According to the articl he was paid 70% of his fee into a British account and then advised he wanted to change his account to an Australian based one and demanded the 70% be paid again into that one, before returning the initial payment. That's odd.

Lets just look at this from a banking perspective. From a commercial standpoint it takes a maximum of 24 hours to deposit funds and a maximum of 3 days to retrieve them. So how does he play 6 games and not play the last 3 due to the dispute. The timing just makes no sense at all. The PCB will protect the PCB at all costs.

 

[Dazzler9]

Apparently he gave them the wrong details, and then when he gave them the correct details, the PCB wouldn't pay it into the new account until the first payment was refunded by the bank.

And fair enough too.

 

[Dazzler9]

Lets just look at this from a banking perspective. From a commercial standpoint it takes a maximum of 24 hours to deposit funds and a maximum of 3 days to retrieve them. So how does he play 6 games and not play the last 3 due to the dispute. The timing just makes no sense at all. The PCB will protect the PCB at all costs.

Has Faulkner refuted the claims then?

 

[WCE_phil]

Has Faulkner refuted the claims then?

The point im trying to make is that the PCB is corrupt on a similar level to Russia in regards to anti-doping. Having worked in finance for a long time, particularly with what is not going to be a huge sum the timeline on the money doesn't fit. It's why likely after repeatedly being told it had been sorted he lost his shit. I'm not condoning Faulkner's actions im just saying that there is definite cause here and the timeline itself backs up Faulkner's version of events.

 

[Dazzler9]

The point im trying to make is that the PCB is corrupt on a similar level to Russia in regards to anti-doping. Having worked in finance for a long time, particularly with what is not going to be a huge sum the timeline on the money doesn't fit. It's why likely after repeatedly being told it had been sorted he lost his sh*t. I'm not condoning Faulkner's actions im just saying that there is definite cause here and the timeline itself backs up Faulkner's version of events.

But what is Faulkner's version of events?

 

[THE A5]

Faulkners career is self is a massive fall from grace. One of Australia's brightest talents in his early 20's and he wasn't just showing promise at that stage, he was literally winning games for Australia ( Was the MOM in the WC final at 24). Genuinely looked like he was gonna be a white ball star for Aus for a decade and half. Got some injuries towards his mid/late 20's and now at 31 can't even get a BBL contract or even play games for his state. He was 27 when he last played a shield game and 29 when he played for Tassie at all.

 

[kane249]

Didn't realise he was still so young