Big Cricket Thread

[Monocle]

Aaron Finch is a now a liability in the T20 team, no wonder he endorsed Langer's departure.

He isn't being held to account at the moment.

Been a pretty good short form player for Australia in the past , BUT the dude is well and truely cooked.

Time to move him on and invest in an up and comer.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Suspect he stays on in the hope of defending the T20 title at home. He should retire though. Carried him through the last tournament, can't carry him through another.

 

[kane249]

 

[Ljp86]

Faulkners career is self is a massive fall from grace. One of Australia's brightest talents in his early 20's and he wasn't just showing promise at that stage, he was literally winning games for Australia ( Was the MOM in the WC final at 24). Genuinely looked like he was gonna be a white ball star for Aus for a decade and half. Got some injuries towards his mid/late 20's and now at 31 can't even get a BBL contract or even play games for his state. He was 27 when he last played a shield game and 29 when he played for Tassie at all.

A lot of that comes down to one of Faulkner's knees which he has had major issues with. It reached a point where he had to give up red ball cricket and 50-over cricket has also been an issue for him as well due to chronic knee issues. The article below is about 20 months old but provides some detail of how this has affected him over the last few years.

Not finished yet: Faulkner eyes one-day return

 

[darksquare]

Aaron Finch is a now a liability in the T20 team, no wonder he endorsed Langer's departure.

He isn't being held to account at the moment.

Been a pretty good short form player for Australia in the past , BUT the dude is well and truely cooked.

Time to move him on and invest in an up and comer.

It's not like they haven't got anyone else in the squad who could open - pick two from Warner, Inglis, Stoinis, Wade. Maxwell would be a more than adequate captain.

 

[Chris_6678]

Finch has some serious credits in the bank with Simmo to keep being picked each week.

 

[Agent93]

Aaron Finch is a now a liability in the T20 team, no wonder he endorsed Langer's departure.

Now? He's been unreliable as an opener in the national side since India dropped by in Dec 2020. Too often ends up with sub-10 scores with a sub-100 SR.

It's not like they haven't got anyone else in the squad who could open - pick two from Warner, Inglis, Stoinis, Wade. Maxwell would be a more than adequate captain.

Agar's apparently an opener these days.

Finch's captaincy definitely doesn't guarantee him selection. We'd be better off rewarding Philippe's form (and age). Smith got the arse vs SL due to form, give it to Finch as well.

 

[darksquare]

We'd be better off rewarding Philippe's form (and age).

Not a bad shout, although he hasn't set the world on fire with the chances he's had. We've given a go to almost everyone in the country who has the capacity to score at a strike rate near 200. So far:

Already in the best XI: Warner, Maxwell, Stoinis, Wade, M Marsh
Slipping out: Finch
Probably not up to international standard: Turner, D Short, McDermott
Jury still out: Philippe
Untried: David

Have I missed anyone?

 

[Agent93]

Time for a puzzling take:

Australia takeaways: Inglis steps up, Finch's worrying form, and the Agar conundrum

Also, could Hazlewood be the new leader of the T20I attack?

www.espncricinfo.com

Agar's bowling an asset but he can only be used in a four-man attack
Ashton Agar bowled superbly in this series after playing just one game in the T20 World Cup, having lost his place due to the balance of the team requiring seven batters. He took 3 for 47 in 12 overs and did not concede a boundary in the three games he played after missing out on selection in the first two matches. He strangled Sri Lanka's batting line-up in the middle overs. Australia have settled on the fact that they must play seven batters and this series, like the T20 World Cup, proved the value of having Matthew Wade at No. 7 instead of Agar. The spinner was oddly trialled as an opener in two games but again it was clear that it can't work as a long-term strategy. If Agar is going to be utilised in a home World Cup, where he can be a huge asset given his control, bounce, changes of pace, and ability to defend on big grounds, then he will have to play in a four-man attack. That will mean Australia will need to leave out one of their big three quicks and play two spinners, or he plays in front of Adam Zampa, which seems unlikely.

I mean, he's played for seasons in a BBL side with 3-4 quicks plus a spinner...

 

[Agent93]

We've given a go to almost everyone in the country who has the capacity to score at a strike rate near 200.

I think that's part of the problem, looking at guys who are feast or famine with the career SR above 140.

Have I missed anyone?

Henriques?

Jury still out: Philippe

He's 24 and needs a go at it. If he were backed in as much as some other players are he's probably have played the WC.

He probably also needs to play some domestic leagues outside Australia so he learns how to play on different decks.

 

[darksquare]

I think that's part of the problem, looking at guys who are feast or famine with the career SR above 140. Henriques?

Stacking the order with hitters is the English model. It seemed to work for them, but maybe we don't have the same talent profile. Henriques I place in the same boat as Smith and Inglis (and Labuschagne). They play proper cricket shots (in Smith's case I mean "no more unorthodox than usual"), and they can score very quickly on their day, but they lack the absolute top-end power of the others. It seems like there's only room for one of those in the top 7 - we want everyone else to be able to go into overdrive once well set with wickets in hand.

 

[Dazzler9]

Let's just stick with what worked in the WC?

Or do the players want to go in a "new direction"?

 

[PintSzedSlasher]

Stacking the order with hitters is the English model. It seemed to work for them, but maybe we don't have the same talent profile. Henriques I place in the same boat as Smith and Inglis (and Labuschagne). They play proper cricket shots (in Smith's case I mean "no more unorthodox than usual"), and they can score very quickly on their day, but they lack the absolute top-end power of the others. It seems like there's only room for one of those in the top 7 - we want everyone else to be able to go into overdrive once well set with wickets in hand.

Inglis career strike rate in T20s is 149... higher than all you mentioned in the best XI section above apart from Maxwell (151).

 

[darksquare]

Inglis career strike rate in T20s is 149... higher than all you mentioned in the best XI section above apart from Maxwell (151).

Did not know it was so high. Very good effort, given he doesn't just clear the front leg and wallop.

 

[Nuke Fremantle]

Happy Richie Benaud day everyone.

 

[Agent93]

Australia's ODI and T20 squad

Aaron Finch (c), Sean Abbott, Ashton Agar, Jason Behrendorff, Alex Carey, Nathan Ellis, Cameron Green, Travis Head, Josh Inglis, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitchell Marsh, Ben McDermott, Kane Richardson, Steve Smith, Marcus Stoinis, Adam Zampa

A couple of interesting names in that list, Dorff being one of them. No Wade in sight.

 

[Truckosaurus]

No Maxwell either. I'd say it's a development squad for Asian conditions exposure but then they've got Behrendorff in there...

 

[Ochre]

Maxwell's getting married then which is why he's out.

 

[Tugga27]

Australia's ODI and T20 squad

Aaron Finch (c), Sean Abbott, Ashton Agar, Jason Behrendorff, Alex Carey, Nathan Ellis, Cameron Green, Travis Head, Josh Inglis, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitchell Marsh, Ben McDermott, Kane Richardson, Steve Smith, Marcus Stoinis, Adam Zampa

A couple of interesting names in that list, Dorff being one of them. No Wade in sight.

They're not taking Wade as there's only one T20 game.
Carey or Inglis will keep.

 

[THE A5]

It's good to see Inglis in the Aussie set up but I'd hate to see him being picked purely as a batsmen. It's a waste when his keeping is better than both Wade's and Carey's.


My ODI squad

Finch (C)
Carey
Lab
Smith
Marsh
Stoinis
Inglis (wk)
Abbott
Richardson
Zampa
Behrendorff

 

[Tugga27]

It's good to see Inglis in the Aussie set up but I'd hate to see him being picked purely as a batsmen. It's a waste when his keeping is better than both Wade's and Carey's.


My ODI squad

Finch (C)
Carey
Lab
Smith
Marsh
Stoinis
Inglis (wk)
Abbott
Richardson
Zampa
Behrendorff

Can't see them giving the gloves to Inglis over the test keeper TBH.

If that was the case, you're admitting Inglisv is a better keeper and therefore should be in the test team.

 

[Dazzler9]

Best wishes to Bacchus

Australian cricket great Rod Marsh suffers heart attack

Australian cricket great Rod Marsh has reportedly been rushed to hospital after suffering a major heart attack in Bundaberg.

www.news.com.au

 

[kane249]

Threats, grubs, vitriol: The Shield's greatest comeback

Twenty years on, 19 of those involved in one of the most remarkable – and spiteful – Sheffield Shield contests ever played reflect on the drama, the heroics and the fateful final afternoon at the MCG

www.cricket.com.au

 

[Westend]

Langer ‘wasn’t’ a legend, Ian Chappell sticks boot in once again

Former Australian Test skipper Ian Chappell has slammed Justin Langer once again, saying Damien Martyn was “twice as good”.

www.news.com.au

What a gutless piece of sh**

 

[Campaigner for good]

Damien Martyn may have had twice the talent but he did not achieve as much as JL did.