News Blues cashed up for 2010 trade

[shell23]

Roughead

Roughean would be great, isnt he only like 23 years old ??

 

[AlecDuncan]

Roughead

Extremely unlikely, but a lot of things can happen in twelve months (just look at Aaron Hammil). At least Roughy's the type we should be chasing. Remember the 100 game rule.

 

[Deep Blue]

I have an analogy here that involes nailing. I'm not sure I can share it

Have detected that the ladies have a thing for Shaun. Also noticed that Bruce was quite taken by him! From a playing perspective he's just about ready to burst onto the scene and I'm sure GC will well and truly have him on their radar. We need to keep him - at the very least he keeps the ladies happy!

 

[laminex]

Roughead

I would offer him 5 mill for 5 years no problems at all.

 

[Blues_Man]

Goddard ..i heard somewhere he was a Carlton fan growing up......

 

[Blues_Man]

Have detected that the ladies have a thing for Shaun. Also noticed that Bruce was quite taken by him! From a playing perspective he's just about ready to burst onto the scene and I'm sure GC will well and truly have him on their radar. We need to keep him - at the very least he keeps the ladies happy!

Maybe his new nickname can be "Bob"

 

[blueman91]

Rather we go for someone like roughead rather than pavlich, not because i don't rate pav would take him any day of the week but look at the age difference. Getting pav would just be like releasing fev and getting someone of same age. Roughead is only around 22-23 and we will get much more out of him, plus he is that real power fwd we require rather than that Medium-big sized CHF when we could have them in abundance with the players we have at our disposal.

 

[parrot]

Unfortunately, it means nothing. It might give some extra leverage in the PSD if we finished bottom 3, but that's about it. The only reason we have so much space in the cap is that we probably have the youngest list in the AFL again and apart from Judd, we have no players on large contracts. We have no problem luring players to the Blues, the problem is getting them there through trade week or the PSD (e.g. Bradshaw, and ROK).

 

[true blue19]

I think higgins is out contact next year aswell as g ablett and selwood( the good one)

 

[Shambolic]

And if you dont get someone big cant you just prepay Chris Judd's salary, subjec to his contracting, bringing it forward. Permanently keep it up your sleeve type thing?

 

[Weiterbot23]

I think higgins is out contact next year aswell as g ablett and selwood( the good one)

Yeah we could def get a player like Higgins over, the doggies have no cash and we have the $$$

We could give them Carrots and our first pick

 

[HBF]

We're in a very fortunate position here that we can offer some serious coin to a couple of out of contract players in 12 months time. Will be difficult to compete with the Gold Coast in terms of dollars paid, but with our club well and truly in the hunt to play deep into the finals, you'd have to think we'd be a more attractive option that the Gold Coast.

 

[blueblood25]

Yeah we could def get a player like Higgins over, the doggies have no cash and we have the $$$

We could give them Carrots and our first pick

Higgins is an absolute dill and belongs at the dogs. His finals series was hilarious.

 

[DarkTint]

higgins is an absolute gun

 

[Silvagnis]

Travis Boak.

 

[dark blue days]

Travis Boak.

They'd want Gibbs for him.

 

[Bluebear]

Is 2010 a bad year for a war chest? Surely most top-line players would be locked away under contract due to the impending GC raids. That would leave us having to offer sizeable trade-bait to entice not only players, but clubs as well.

Quite right MK.

For clubs other than GC:
Trade week will be a fizzer because veru few will have picks high enough to satisfy a deal.
PSD will be all but a lock out as GC gets the priority to 1 uncontracted player per club and will be able to match dollar values.

TBH, we'd be better off re-negotiating some contracts to front load them over the next couple of years (i.e. Waite, Judd, Gibbs, Murph) so that when we need the extra cash these guys will be on lower contracts.

 

[Bluebear]

but with our club well and truly in the hunt to play deep into the finals, you'd have to think we'd be a more attractive option that the Gold Coast.

Do they get some sort of preference though HBF?

Not sure what compulsion the league has to send uncontracted players there if they choose not to go?

 

[bibi01]

GC are also able to trade picks for players as well as pick up uncontracted players

They won't go into 2011 with a full list of kids, I can see maybe 1/2 their picks being traded

IMO there will be a lot more activity in next years trade than we think.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Do they get some sort of preference though HBF?

Not sure what compulsion the league has to send uncontracted players there if they choose not to go?

The way I understand it, the GC can throw cash at uncontracted players and those players can accept without the GC giving anything up for them. The AFL then give that club a draft pick in the ballpark range for that player as compensation.

Theoretically, they could get 16 ready to go players, plus have all their choice draft picks, plus all the juniors they have already signed. They could be competitive from the outset.

 

[jonesy86]

Unfortunately, it means nothing. It might give some extra leverage in the PSD if we finished bottom 3, but that's about it. The only reason we have so much space in the cap is that we probably have the youngest list in the AFL again and apart from Judd, we have no players on large contracts. We have no problem luring players to the Blues, the problem is getting them there through trade week or the PSD (e.g. Bradshaw, and ROK).

For once I agree with Parrot.

Let's say you guys finish 6th in 2010. Your first draft pick in the ND will be somewhere between 15-20 with the GC concessions and your first pick in the PSD will be about pick 12.

To get a star player you would have to give something else away.

 

[Pafloyul]

There's a dark side to all this, though - depth. It's going to be increasingly harder to build a formidable list depth wise. I can envisage the need to cull more this time next year and having less to choose from due to the GC.

We won't have anything to trade, anyway. unless we give away three of our blokes for one of theirs (whoever 'they' may be) thus adding to a potential depth problem.

We should be thinking of trading a surplus player or two above the odds and keeping the blokes we already have happy.

 

[Bluebear]

The way I understand it, the GC can throw cash at uncontracted players and those players can accept without the GC giving anything up for them. The AFL then give that club a draft pick in the ballpark range for that player as compensation.

Theoretically, they could get 16 ready to go players, plus have all their choice draft picks, plus all the juniors they have already signed. They could be competitive from the outset.

Yep, I get all that.

I guess I was heading more down the lines of "What if the player doesn't want to go to GC"?

But I guess it then comes down to whether GC recruit a "hostile" recruit and try to turn them, or let them go.

I foresee a lean trade week and PSD for clubs next year in terms of getting quality players in.......it will be more about what is being traded to GC to get high picks I think.

 

[kouta70]

TBH, we'd be better off re-negotiating some contracts to front load them over the next couple of years (i.e. Waite, Judd, Gibbs, Murph) so that when we need the extra cash these guys will be on lower contracts.

Right on, unless we have a chance at getting a Roughead.

 

[Tom Kreuze]

Does anyone know which big name forwards are coming out of contract next year?

Even though we will be cashed up I think it will be hard to attract a big name. Any player who shows a remote interest in being traded will struggle to end up anywhere bar Gold Coast. GC will be able to match any salary offer, have a vast array of picks to trade and have a fall-back lock on the PSD as well. Unless a club has a specific interest in one of our tradeable players I see no point in another team bothering to deal with us, even if that player nominates Carlton as his preferred destination.