Blues Drafting - Year by Year Analysis

[Magic Alley]

Apologies if this has already been done, but I thought it would be interesting to see how we've compiled our current senior team over the years in Drafts and Trading.

Here is a list of 27 players that makes up our senior team in various forms:

B: M.Jamison B.Thornton P.Bower
HB: A.Walker J.Waite H.Scotland
C: K.Simpson N.Stevens A.Carrazzo
HF: B.Gibbs A.Hartlett R.Houlihan
F: B.Fisher B.Fevola E.Betts
Foll: M.Kreuzer C.Judd M.Murphy
I/C from: C.Cloke J.Bannister S.Grigg D.Pfieffer R.Hadley
S.O'hAilpin J.Russell S.Hampson A.Bentick

Here is a breakdown of which years we managed to snaffle these players:

1998
National Pick #38 – Brendan Fevola

1999
National Pick #73 – Ryan Houlihan

2000
None

2001
National Pick #46 – Jarrad Waite
Rookie #11 – Bret Thornton

2002
National Pick #45 – Kade Simpson
National Pick #72 – Brad Fisher

2003
National Pick #2 – Andrew Walker
National Pick #69 – Jordan Bannister
Preseason #2 – Nick Stevens
Rookie #2 – Andrew Carrazzo
Rookie #34 – Adam Bentick
Rookie #62 – Setanta O’Hailpin

2004
National Pick #9 – Jordan Russell
National Pick #25 – Adam Hartlett
Rookie #3 – Eddie Betts

2005
Pick #1 – Marc Murphy
Pick #20 – Paul Bower

2006
National Pick #1 – Bryce Gibbs
National Pick #17 – Shaun Hampson
National Pick #19 – Shaun Grigg
Preseason #9 – Cameron Cloke
Rookie #17 – Michael Jamison

2007
National Pick #1 – Matthew Kruezer
Preseason #2 – Darren Pfeiffer

Trades in
Chris Judd
Heath Scotland
Richard Hadley

Some observations:

Good:
- 18 of the 27 players were picked up after 2003....good sign that we are getting games into our youngsters (not that we have much choice )

- 2003 and 2006 look to be the pick of the years. Getting Stevens and Carrazzo for nothing in 2003 made up for the penalties that year

- We got 5 of our KPPs for cheap picks (Fev, Waite, Fish, T-Bird and Jamo)

- The players we got out of trades are pretty handy

Bad

- As is obvious from where we sit we are really missing a core group of 150+ game players.....we probably needed another 5 players from the 1998 to 2002 drafts

- Year 2000 - Annus Horribilis - we had picks 4, 11, 15 and 31 and got NOTHING

Thoughts ?

 

[Marc Shmurf 3]

Apologies if this has already been done, but I thought it would be interesting to see how we've compiled our current senior team over the years in Drafts and Trading.

Here is a list of 27 players that makes up our senior team in various forms:

B: M.Jamison B.Thornton P.Bower
HB: A.Walker J.Waite H.Scotland
C: K.Simpson N.Stevens A.Carrazzo
HF: B.Gibbs A.Hartlett R.Houlihan
F: B.Fisher B.Fevola E.Betts
Foll: M.Kreuzer C.Judd M.Murphy
I/C from: C.Cloke J.Bannister S.Grigg D.Pfieffer R.Hadley
S.O'hAilpin J.Russell S.Hampson A.Bentick

Here is a breakdown of which years we managed to snaffle these players:

1998
National Pick #38 – Brendan Fevola

1999
National Pick #73 – Ryan Houlihan

2000
None

2001
National Pick #46 – Jarrad Waite
Rookie #11 – Bret Thornton

2002
National Pick #45 – Kade Simpson
National Pick #72 – Brad Fisher

2003
National Pick #2 – Andrew Walker
National Pick #69 – Jordan Bannister
Preseason #2 – Nick Stevens
Rookie #2 – Andrew Carrazzo
Rookie #34 – Adam Bentick
Rookie #62 – Setanta O’Hailpin

2004
National Pick #9 – Jordan Russell
National Pick #25 – Adam Hartlett
Rookie #3 – Eddie Betts

2005
Pick #1 – Marc Murphy
Pick #20 – Paul Bower

2006
National Pick #1 – Bryce Gibbs
National Pick #17 – Shaun Hampson
National Pick #19 – Shaun Grigg
Preseason #9 – Cameron Cloke
Rookie #17 – Michael Jamison

2007
National Pick #1 – Matthew Kruezer
Preseason #2 – Darren Pfeiffer

Trades in
Chris Judd
Heath Scotland
Richard Hadley

Some observations:

Good:
- 18 of the 27 players were picked up after 2003....good sign that we are getting games into our youngsters (not that we have much choice )

- 2003 and 2006 look to be the pick of the years. Getting Stevens and Carrazzo for nothing in 2003 made up for the penalties that year

- We got 5 of our KPPs for cheap picks (Fev, Waite, Fish, T-Bird and Jamo)

- The players we got out of trades are pretty handy

Bad

- As is obvious from where we sit we are really missing a core group of 150+ game players.....we probably needed another 5 players from the 1998 to 2002 drafts

- Year 2000 - Annus Horribilis - we had picks 4, 11, 15 and 31 and got NOTHING

Thoughts ?

Makes me cringe everytime i think about that year

4. Livingston
11. Sporn
15. Wiggins
31. ??? i dont think we had that pick

12. Shaun Burgoyne
14. Daniel Harris
18. Daniel Kerr
20. Kane Cornes
50. Domenic Cassisi
56. Daniel Cross
67. Graham Johncock

WE certainly have done well with our later picks and elevated rookie listed players though

 

[marcmurphy3]

Exactly. I shudder still at how we managed to not get one player out of the top 30 in 2000.

Player who we could have picked in the top 30(we had picks 4, 11, 15):

8 Daniel Motlop
9 Kayne Pettifer
10 Jordan McMahon
12 Shaun Burgoyne
14 Daniel Harris
16 Scott Thompson
18 Daniel Kerr
20 Kane Cornes
22 Richard Hadley
23 Drew Petrie
24 Luke Ablett
25 Mark Coughlin
29 Jamie Charman

 

[Magic Alley]

Makes me cringe everytime i think about that year

4. Livingston
11. Sporn
15. Wiggins
31. ??? i dont think we had that pick

12. Shaun Burgoyne
14. Daniel Harris
18. Daniel Kerr
20. Kane Cornes
50. Domenic Cassisi
56. Daniel Cross
67. Graham Johncock

WE certainly have done well with our later picks and elevated rookie listed players though

We had pick #31 and drafted Blake Campbell

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/td-carlton-blues?year=2000

 

[Marc Shmurf 3]

We had pick #31 and drafted Blake Campbell

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/td-carlton-blues?year=2000

my bad wikipedia said that kangaroos had that pick. but your right

another disastrous pick

 

[Silvagnis]

Meh!

Livingston was an AA forward as a junior, so he wouldn't have been overlooked by with a top ten pick if we had picked another player at four. Angwin was arguably as talented as the top three players taken in the 2000 draft, but the headcase was still taken at seven ahead of some guns.

Angwin was a better kick than Riewoldt on the run and had better mobility and more upside than Kosi.

I reckon the 201cm and high leaping Angwin would be as hard to stop as Franklin if he had Kreuzer's attitude.

He snapped one Dean Cox running goal from 50 and another from the pocket against WCE.

Freak show.

Charman was a zone selection and wasn't in the draft.

The draft process and the quality of the kids coming through now is incredible compared to past drafts when you have more athletic talls in the system. Last year's draft and the 2005 draft weren't as weak as everyone thought they would be when Pears can play and Browne has been good in the VFL.

my bad wikipedia said that kangaroos had that pick. but your right

another disastrous pick

Campbell had a bad back injury and was a quickish defender who could kick.

That wasn't a stuff up when the odds of getting a player with a second round pick was hit and miss back then.

 

[one_twelve112]

Quite seriously, I reckon Angwin had more talent in his little finger than 95% footballer playing the game today. He could have been anything had he had his head in the right place. A real shame.

 

[bLuEbOy1984]

2004 drafting was a shocker

 

[Big Delut]

2004
National Pick #9 – Jordan Russell
National Pick #25 – Adam Hartlett
Rookie #3 – Eddie Betts

I always thought Betts was PSD for some reason

 

[LennyLeonard]

I always thought Betts was PSD for some reason

He was PSD.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Comparison with the top 27 from Geelong. We really need to stop getting caught up in poor drafting from 7 years ago. It happens to all teams. Mooney and Ottens were two big trades for the Cats.

Note that of their best 27 currently, Scarlett, Ablett, Blake and Hawkins are father/son selections. We have Waite.

B) Andrew Mackie Matthew Scarlett Darren Milburn
HB) Tom Harley Matthew Egan David Wojcinski
C) Corey Enright James Bartel Joel Selwood
HF) Joel Corey Cameron Mooney Steve Johnson
F) Tom Hawkins Brad Ottens Paul Chapman
R) Mark Blake Cameron Ling Gary Ablett

Int from) James Kelly Harry Taylor Brent Prismall Max Rooke Mathew Stokes Josh Hunt Ryan Gamble

2007

17 Harry Taylor
34 Dawson Simpson
44 Scott Simpson
50 Dan McKenna
60 Adam Donohue

2006

7 Joel Selwood
25 Nathan Djerrkura
41 Tom Hawkins
57 Simon Hogan

2005

15 Travis Varcoe
31 Trent West
35 Stephen Owen
47 Ryan Gamble
61 Mathew Stokes

2004

32 Brent Prismall
48 Nathan Ablett (FS)
2004 62 Matthew Egan

2003

7 Kane Tenace
22 Cameron Thurley
38 Mark Blake (FS)
42 Matthew Spencer

2002

7 Andrew Mackie
23 Tom Lonergan
36 Tim Callan (FS)

2001

8 James Bartel
17 James Kelly
23 Charlie Gardiner
24 Steve Johnson
40 Gary Ablett Junior (FS)
41 Henry Playfair
69 Matthew McCarthy
81 David Johnson

2000

44 Joshua Hunt
71 Daniel Lowther
79 Hamish Simpson

1999

8 Joel Corey
15 David Spriggs
17 Ezra Bray
23 Daniel Foster
31 Paul Chapman
38 Cameron Ling
47 Corey Enright

1998

17 Peter Street
21 David Clarke
24 David Wojcinski
37 Tom Harley
52 Simon Arnott

1997

15 Joel McKay
29 Marc Woolnough
38 James Rahilly
45 Matthew Scarlett
54 Justin Wood
61 Tim Finocchiaro

1996

8 Leigh Brockman
18 Gerrard Bennett
43 Paul Corrigan
33 Jason Snell
38 Glenn Kilpatrick

1995

47 Darren Milburn

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I always thought Betts was PSD for some reason

He was. Pick 2 in the PSD. Richmond took Trent Knobel at 1.

 

[Bomba Sheldon]

He was. Pick 2 in the PSD. Richmond took Trent Knobel at 1.

The irony was that the Tigers "trumped us" by getting Knobel as thats who we wanted and we got "stuck" with Eddie.

Suffer in your jocks Tigers.

 

[cwebb(go_fish#14)]

I think we did pretty well to get simo and fish out of the 2002 draft considering we lost our first few picks.

 

[thylacine60]

Quite seriously, I reckon Angwin had more talent in his little finger than 95% footballer playing the game today. He could have been anything had he had his head in the right place. A real shame.

100% spot on. If I think about what might have been too much I get a regret rash. Goddamn.

 

[Korn]

Rookie #17 – Michael Jamison

pick of the century!

 

[legendtofski]

2004 draft put us back a few years when we had momentum. Maybe Libba and Pagan were taking drugs with Angwin..?

Angwin was the one that stuffed us up. He shoulda waited until he was like Ben Cousins before becoming a screwed up drug brogen.

 

[The Coach]

We have ended up with No. 22 - R.Hadley and No.47 J.Bannister from the 2000 draft. Noticed our 31 pick could have obviously scored us No.33 - a man who played in 3 premierships
Apart from the Hawks, 2004 has proved to be an ordinary draft for most and at this point in time nothing much after No.5/7 has set the footy world alight. The fact that the Hawks scored 3 goodies in such a poor year is why they are firing now.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

38 - the first one,

he turned out ok.

What is the point of this?

 

[The Coach]

38 - the first one,

he turned out ok.

What is the point of this?

Yeah what is the point of talking about footy LOL

 

[thylacine60]

Yeah what is the point of talking about footy LOL

Hmm. Seems a pretty inappropriate place to be bringing up AFL issues. What gives?

 

[AlecDuncan]

I reckon the 201cm and high leaping Angwin would be as hard to stop as Franklin if he had Kreuzer's attitude.

Wouldn't he have just. The kid had the talent to be anything. Why anyone would be a nothing ________ rather than knuckle down and take a fabulous opportunity we can only wonder. I hope I had more brains when I was 20.

 

[legendtofski]

Wouldn't he have just. The kid had the talent to be anything. Why anyone would be a nothing ________ rather than knuckle down and take a fabulous opportunity we can only wonder. I hope I had more brains when I was 20.

He was going to the Q Bar and scoring chicks coz he was a fotballer with money, but they're all on E's so he got caught up in it.

 

[Blueinblood]

Rookie drat has not been to bad for us