Brad Ebert

[AndrewJo]

id play hardball and pick him up at no.2 psd. gc wont pick him up because he will want to leave next year. why not screw another team over its happend to us in the past.

You won't play hard ball at all. If you try this the Crows would swoop with and offer a later pick to Westy Coast who would then say "Thanks very much! That's better than nothing!"
Sanity will prevail as we have recruiters who know the game...not like some of our posters here!!

 

[pantskyle]

there is absolutely no logic in that

There's no logic is a club wanting the best available pick for a player?

Well **** me.

 

[Scotland]

Think you've lost it.
Griffin is worth more than Ebert, don't confuse where they we drafted/traded for as being an accurate reflection of their abilities.

Griffin was traded for pick 61 in 2010 and played a handful of games in 2011. Obviously you either don't rate Ebert at all or think that in his time at Fremantle Griffin has improved from a player worth pick 61 to one worth a pick in the low 20s. Which is it?

Lycett was drafted at 29 in 2010 and played one game. We think he's pretty good but that doesn't magically make him worth pick 6 in 2011.

 

[archiemoses]

LOl Griffen plays one good game and now he is worth a first rounder. Freo supporters, lol

 

[WCE_phil]

LOl Griffen plays one good game and now he is worth a first rounder. Freo supporters, lol

I still remember all the polak talk and it still makes me laugh.

 

[RIOLIUSTAR]

LOl Griffen plays one good game and now he is worth a first rounder. Freo supporters, lol

Deluded bunch

Griffen is worth a late 3rd rounder/ 4th rounder just like last year

 

[chachi11]

lol @ top 10 pick for ebert..!

Clubs will always talk up players before the draft, its the job!
But we all know a top ten pick not going to happen.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Deluded bunch

Griffen is worth a late 3rd rounder/ 4th rounder just like last year

Reckon he's worth more than that but less than Ebert.

 

[Suma Magic]

Top 10 or we'll force GWS to take him in the PSD! Then you'll be sorry!

Whilst I'm only kidding, does anyone know if GWS has said anything or inferred anything about picking up players in the PSD? Odds are against it but if they can get a decent player for free who worst-case they can trade away next year for something? Obviously if they were going to pick him up he may resign with West Coast if they were his two options.

 

[chachi11]

seeing as choco williams is @ gws, and loves everything ebert, I'm sure he would be having a crack @ ebert in the psd......

Pretty sure port would be aware of this, and making sure a deal was done draft week..
So take our pick 58 and be happy......lol

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

GWS have a PSD pick?

 

[RIOLIUSTAR]

Reckon he's worth more than that but less than Ebert.

Maybe...

Considering Port have picks 6, 28, 33, 51 etc as it stands what would they cough up for a guy who was traded last year with pick 61?

Sure he (Griffen) showed form but seriously would they cough up 33 ( 2nd round) for him ?

I think 51 (3rd round) more likely.

Whatever... Ebert is worth more I reckon

 

[Asgardian]

Because you currently have no good rucks and an 18 year old won't fix that.

Matt Lobbe came on rather nicely in the 2nd half of this year. Our staff seem to think Jarrad redden, 205cm, is also progressing well.

Surjan, pick 33
Ebert, pick 45

I reckon that is fair

I reckon, bugger him.

Trade with the crows.

Crows could trade picks 1, 2 & 3 for him, it does not matter if he refuses to be traded to them.

Players shouldn't be allowed to nominate ONE club.

AFLPA will be down on you like a ton of bricks.

 

[plays tall 1]

The AFL's draft and trading rules are a precarious deck of cards, highly susceptible to a challenge on restraint of trade grounds.

If Ebert tries to push this line of only wanting to go to Port, the Eagles should call his bluff. Let him challenge the draft/trade structure.

Let's face it, if the deck of cards fall, it'll be clubs like Port (and not the Eagles) that'll be crying to the AFL Commission. And Ebert can sleep with the knowledge that he brought it crashing down.

It's time for the Eagles to play hard ball. Like Port do at the trade table.

 

[longdonkey]

The last thing I heard from the club on the ruck situation was Port were preparing to get an experienced ruckman in the middle of the year.
As Lobbe began playing it became apparent that he was progressing better than expected to the stage where getting an experienced ruckman MAY not be neccessary.

Port rate Lobbe and Redden with Lobbe utilised as a forward/ruck and Redden as a lead tap ruckman. I think Mark Williams called Redden the second coming of Brendan Lade - BIG CALL. Big boy 205cm

 

[King Elvis]

Considering how bad this draft is meant to be, I would've thought Ebert at anywhere near pick 25 would be an absolute steal.

 

[longdonkey]

The AFL's draft and trading rules are a precarious deck of cards, highly susceptible to a challenge on restraint of trade grounds.

If Ebert tries to push this line of only wanting to go to Port, the Eagles should call his bluff. Let him challenge the draft/trade structure.

Let's face it, if the deck of cards fall, it'll be clubs like Port (and not the Eagles) that'll be crying to the AFL Commission. And Ebert can sleep with the knowledge that he brought it crashing down.

It's time for the Eagles to play hard ball. Like Port do at the trade table.

Ebert will get traded for 28. If the draft is as shallow as they say then 28 would be about right. But there's plenty of BS thrown around - remember Heppell and Selwood both have degenerative knees and Darling is a lager lout. I bet WCE couldn't believe their luck when he was still available high twenties.

 

[longdonkey]

Considering how bad this draft is meant to be, I would've thought Ebert at anywhere near pick 20 would be an absolute steal.

I'm not so sure Kingy - if he cleaned up his kicking a bit I'd agree with you 100%. But I'm not so sure about how shit the draft is. In every years draft there are always good players picked up with high picks. I'm not sure this is being perpetuated by clubs wanting to get better deals by talking down the worth of the draft choices.

No matter what you say a draft choice is a chance to get a 250 game player. The older the established player is the less games you can potentially get from him.

I think it will be Pick 28 that gets him

 

[King Elvis]

Edited my post to be closer to the pick you guys have

You're right - but you can almost guarantee that Ebert will be a 200+ game player now; that's a lot more certainty than you're going to get for pick 20-25 in the draft.

 

[greennick]

The AFL's draft and trading rules are a precarious deck of cards, highly susceptible to a challenge on restraint of trade grounds.

If Ebert tries to push this line of only wanting to go to Port, the Eagles should call his bluff. Let him challenge the draft/trade structure.

Let's face it, if the deck of cards fall, it'll be clubs like Port (and not the Eagles) that'll be crying to the AFL Commission. And Ebert can sleep with the knowledge that he brought it crashing down.

It's time for the Eagles to play hard ball. Like Port do at the trade table.

It won't happen, all three parties will want a trade to happen at a fair price. They won't even be too far away on the price in all likelihood with any initial calls just being them playing the negotiation game. Still, a trade won't happen early as they'll probably wait on a few other deals to start to formulate before they pull the trigger.

Neither club will try and **** the other over. And Ebert certainly has more self respect than that.

 

[longdonkey]

Edited my post to be closer to the pick you guys have

You're right - but you can almost guarantee that Ebert will be a 200+ game player now; that's a lot more certainty than you're going to get for pick 20-25 in the draft.

If he was anything older than 21 he would start to be worth less - we can still get 200 games from him in 10 years if he stays relatively injury free.
In another thread I put a list of 200 game players from the 1999 draft that were all taken 30+ I reckon there were more than 10 of them so if you pick the right guys and develop them right you get results.

And you can look at what Richmond has done in the past to show you the wrong way.

 

[bodazoka]

I'm not so sure Kingy - if he cleaned up his kicking a bit I'd agree with you 100%. But I'm not so sure about how shit the draft is. In every years draft there are always good players picked up with high picks. I'm not sure this is being perpetuated by clubs wanting to get better deals by talking down the worth of the draft choices.

No matter what you say a draft choice is a chance to get a 250 game player. The older the established player is the less games you can potentially get from him.

I think it will be Pick 28 that gets him

If he cleaned up his kicking he would be worth something in the top 10 easily. It's because of his kicking that you are sudgesting closer to the 28. The club will hope for more then that considering they legitimately (not just pushing his value) rate him even with his current flaws higher than pick 28.

 

[juddy_Like]

His kicking isn't as bad as people make it out to be.


It's his god-awful decision making that makes his kicking look 'that bad'.

 

[Patron]

I reckon the club rates him at a pick around 15, they really do rate him and always have, i think as a person/leader as much as a player.

 

[PortBrillance]

The AFL's draft and trading rules are a precarious deck of cards, highly susceptible to a challenge on restraint of trade grounds.

If Ebert tries to push this line of only wanting to go to Port, the Eagles should call his bluff. Let him challenge the draft/trade structure.

Let's face it, if the deck of cards fall, it'll be clubs like Port (and not the Eagles) that'll be crying to the AFL Commission. And Ebert can sleep with the knowledge that he brought it crashing down.

It's time for the Eagles to play hard ball. Like Port do at the trade table.

You can't play "hard ball". If you do, you guys will get screwed over and lose Ebert for free. If anyone wants to play "hard ball", It will be Port. We hold the aces here