Player Watch Brayden Maynard

[Bramax]

In todays paper in Perth, a letter to the editor said “the Maynard incident is why there should be a send off rule and Collingwood should have been forced to play with 17 players on field for the rest of the game.”

No.
This is the reason there shouldn't be a a send off rule.
The umps and the AFL got it wrong with Maynard. The tribunal exonerated him after a 3 hour hearing.
Just imaging if the ump sent Maynard off during that game and we lost, only to find out later that Maynard had no case to answer? A disaster with no recourse.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Mike Sheehan summed it up well on Pendles podcast last week - He was always interested in writing about what happened inside the boundary line and Caro was more interested in stories inside the boardroom. I know which ones bore the s**t out of me more

That’s fine too, that’s her gig…… Club politics.

She needs to drop her new segment though. “ Caros Tales from the Florist” is a segment I don’t want to see again.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

In other positive news, it's being reported that Angus is recovering well to this point and much better than initially feared.

Positive update emerges after Angus Brayshaw’s neurologist check-up

Teammates have revealed key details of the Melbourne player’s recovery from his latest concussion.

7news.com.au

Better than originally feared by who?

Just the usual Melbourne scaremongers who wanted Maynard convicted. There was no actual expert medical updates suggesting otherwise.

Awesome news that he’s hopefully on the way to a full and quick recovery, but it’s an amazing coincidence that this story has come out after the tribunal has concluded.

 

[jmac70]

I'm not sure what sort of flowers Maynard brought to Angus, but I feel confident that Gawn would have been able to arrange them in a tasteful manner.

I do wonder how Brayden made his selection. Did the florist ask him 'the occasion'? Are natives best in such circumstances, or something softer?

Definitely not daisies.

 

[Greenaicos]

If he could arrange Caro to be put in a retirement village that would be nice.

my Mum used to use the term “cats bum face”, never really pictured it until I saw Caro.

 

[KrispyKremePie]

 

[Pistol Night]

my Mum used to use the term “cats bum face”, never really pictured it until I saw Caro.

I reckon she cuts a lemon up before each episode of Footy Classified and sucks on a piece before each comment

 

[3rdMan]

Never saw the "overruling" of Christian as strange or a problem. He asseses the case on purely football terms. As we saw during the hearing he was right that there was nothing in it. However others at the AFL need to do more than look at the case in isolation. They need to think about clearly communicating to clubs and fans, testing cases that might be near the edge or part of future legislation, and yes managing perception and protecting the game's image. In the end I think they made the right call in referring to the tribunal.

 

[Pie eyed]

Just suppose.... we win the flag & Brayden wins the Norm Smith - imagine the squealing and squawking - "tainted flag" etc - would be truly wonderful

I honestly hope I get to see all that wailin' and get to bottle some of them bitter tears.

 

[sam_e]

In todays paper in Perth, a letter to the editor said “the Maynard incident is why there should be a send off rule and Collingwood should have been forced to play with 17 players on field for the rest of the game.”

No.
This is the reason there shouldn't be a a send off rule.
The umps and the AFL got it wrong with Maynard. The tribunal exonerated him after a 3 hour hearing.
Just imaging if the ump sent Maynard off during that game and we lost, only to find out later that Maynard had no case to answer? A disaster with no recourse.

For mine, the send-off rule would work fine for clearly "intentional" acts where a player is concussed / injured etc

But i would have classified Jack Martin's hit on Blakey as intentional ..ball has all but gone, clenched fist, swinging arm, belts him in the jaw. The only reason he doesn't break his jaw is Martin's small bony hand /knuckles. Grading that as 'careless' is a joke .. he lines him up with intent, it's intentional in my eyes.

 

[Pie eyed]

my Mum used to use the term “cats bum face”, never really pictured it until I saw Caro.

Extremely unfair to cats.

 

[ZEV]

For mine, the send-off rule would work fine for clearly "intentional" acts where a player is concussed / injured etc

But i would have classified Jack Martin's hit on Blakey as intentional ..ball has all but gone, clenched fist, swinging arm, belts him in the jaw. The only reason he doesn't break his jaw is Martin's small bony hand /knuckles. Grading that as 'careless' is a joke .. he lines him up with intent, it's intentional in my eyes.

Small bony hand hahahaha that’s awesome!

 

[Chameleon75]

Mike Sheehan summed it up well on Pendles podcast last week - He was always interested in writing about what happened inside the boundary line and Caro was more interested in stories inside the boardroom. I know which ones bore the s**t out of me more

mike is a bit of a revisionist there, he had his fair share of off field stories too. And didn’t mind a bit of muckraking in a slow week, I recall that the herald sun would start the week with mike writing an inflammatory article (often directed at us), with a fellow columnist penning a reply and then spend the week going back and forth creating drama when there wasn’t any.

 

[jmac70]

mike is a bit of a revisionist there, he had his fair share of off field stories too. And didn’t mind a bit of muckraking in a slow week, I recall that the herald sun would start the week with mike writing an inflammatory article (often directed at us), with a fellow columnist penning a reply and then spend the week going back and forth creating drama when there wasn’t any.

Yep. Mike was shit.

 

[Big Bryza]

max Gawn put the flowers in the vase!

Don't believe it. He can't hit a target at the best of times.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Never saw the "overruling" of Christian as strange or a problem. He asseses the case on purely football terms. As we saw during the hearing he was right that there was nothing in it. However others at the AFL need to do more than look at the case in isolation. They need to think about clearly communicating to clubs and fans, testing cases that might be near the edge or part of future legislation, and yes managing perception and protecting the game's image. In the end I think they made the right call in referring to the tribunal.

Not a problem as such but definitely strange. Pretty poor optics they had to put a gun to Christian’s head and get him to sign off that it was a joint decision. They would have been better off and garnered more respect to be honest and say, “ the MRO doesn’t agree with us but as custodians of the game we have used our executive powers to overrule and send this case to the tribunal”.

They should also have used their powers to not put a formulaic three week suspension to the tribunal and left it open for them to decide a penalty if he was guilty.

But I entirely agree with the bulk of your post. Taking it to the tribunal was absolutely the right decision.

 

[Kes1984]

In other positive news, it's being reported that Angus is recovering well to this point and much better than initially feared.

Positive update emerges after Angus Brayshaw’s neurologist check-up

Teammates have revealed key details of the Melbourne player’s recovery from his latest concussion.

7news.com.au

I think simply ALIVE Is much better than initially feared based on the carry on over this.

Pretty sure Brayshaw should have retired in 2017 with what he went through.

Probably should have retired as a gesture of his commitment to his future wife too, given who she is and what she’s been through.

 

[3rdMan]

Not a problem as such but definitely strange. Pretty poor optics they had to put a gun to Christian’s head and get him to sign off that it was a joint decision. They would have been better off and garnered more respect to be honest and say, “ the MRO doesn’t agree with us but as custodians of the game we have used our executive powers to overrule and send this case to the tribunal”.

They should also have used their powers to not put a formulaic three week suspension to the tribunal and left it open for them to decide a penalty if he was guilty.

But I entirely agree with the bulk of your post. Taking it to the tribunal was absolutely the right decision.

Reporting on how Christian felt is too flimsy for me to accept. Even if true and he was upset, I dont have enough information to say whether that's reasonable or not. In the end it's not very important. More an issue of manners than process. Other decision makers have broader responsibilities than Christian it's not surprising their conclusions could differ.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Reporting on how Christian felt is too flimsy for me to accept. Even if true and he was upset, I dont have enough information to say whether that's reasonable or not. In the end it's not very important. More an issue of manners than process. Other decision makers have broader responsibilities than Christian it's not surprising their conclusions could differ.

Fair enough but I think the AFL should have owned it if they disagreed with him. They kinda met half way which I thought was a cop-out. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things as the correct process was followed in the end, but a bit wishy washy from Laura Kane .

 

[domus]

The whole circus has been simply due to the fact it was Brayshaw who was bumped and then knocked unconscious. If Van Rooyen had elbowed Paddy McCartin instead of McStay he too would most likely have been severely concussed and possibly unconscious given how easily he was concussed after laying his head upon the grass with as much force as most of us place our head on the pillow. I suppose the Swans and media would have been baying for his blood and demanding a 4 week suspension. The same can be said for Martin's swinging hand to the face of his opponent. Had that been McCartin rather than Blakey the outcome would have been very different. The fact that the outcome of an act plays such a role in the severity of the penalty is wrong. It should be all about the intent and action.

So, it was never about the actual collision but very much the man with whom Maynard made contact.

I feel for the next player who enters a physical contest with Angus where a fierce bump or strong tackle is required.

 

[domus]

I think simply ALIVE Is much better than initially feared based on the carry on over this.

Pretty sure Brayshaw should have retired in 2017 with what he went through.

Probably should have retired as a gesture of his commitment to his future wife too, given who she is and what she’s been through.

He has a flag in his bag-more than most players can boast. I think it's actually placing undue pressure on his opponents given the fragile nature of his head and brain. Must they tip toe when in his vicinity?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The whole circus has been simply due to the fact it was Brayshaw who was bumped and then knocked unconscious. If Van Rooyen had elbowed Paddy McCartin instead of McStay he too would most likely have been severely concussed and possibly unconscious given how easily he was concussed after laying his head upon the grass with as much force as most of us place our head on the pillow. I suppose the Swans and media would have been baying for his blood and demanding a 4 week suspension. The same can be said for Martin's swinging hand to the face of his opponent. Had that been McCartin rather than Blakey the outcome would have been very different. The fact that the outcome of an act plays such a role in the severity of the penalty is wrong. It should be all about the intent and action.

So, it was never about the actual collision but very much the man with whom Maynard made contact.

I feel for the next player who enters a physical contest with Angus where a fierce bump or strong tackle is required.

That’s only 1/4 of the story. It’s also about Collingwood. A lot about Collingwood.

 

[domus]

That’s only 1/4 of the story. It’s also about Collingwood. A lot about Collingwood.

Of course- that's the other ingredient which made this such a shit show.

 

[Pistol Night]

Yep. Mike was s**t.

**** me have you seen the standard of tripe serve up these days?

 

[Pistol Night]

mike is a bit of a revisionist there, he had his fair share of off field stories too. And didn’t mind a bit of muckraking in a slow week, I recall that the herald sun would start the week with mike writing an inflammatory article (often directed at us), with a fellow columnist penning a reply and then spend the week going back and forth creating drama when there wasn’t any.

Yeah obviously he would but i definitely used to see a love for the game more from him than anything Caro serves up. Clearly im in the minority though