Bruise-free footy

[Mightydees]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...gets-for-carlton/story-e6frf9mf-1226065963092

Carlton accuse of us bruise free footy and the general public consenus in response is that we play soft footy and need to harden up. "Laughing stock of the AFL" says another....whose right, everyone else or the Dees footy departmnent?

 

[syl]

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When I heard I was like, 'Who cares? Mitch Robinson is a piece of shit anyway...'

And while it may be a stupid thing to say about your opposition, it was not far off...

 

[ESKIE]

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I think our guys were asked 'loaded' questions in an interview and gave open answers, not sledging as such and the Herald Sun have chosen to blow it out of proportion, then Mark Robinson weighs into it....

Injuries have crippled you guys this year, anyway this could be good motivation, certainly for this week

 

[Mightydees]

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I think our guys were asked 'loaded' questions in an interview and gave open answers, not sledging as such and the Herald Sun have chosen to blow it out of proportion, then Mark Robinson weighs into it....

Injuries have crippled you guys this year, anyway this could be good motivation, certainly for this week

Yes they gave open, honest answers and thats the concern i.e. its not only the media and general public calling us soft now but its our opposition. I am not bagging the Carlton players, on the contrary, I thank them for their honesty because that will hopefully get through to our blokes and the footy department.

 

[demonsize]

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If we have oppoasition players openly discussing how soft we are at the footy, we are in trouble. But like most of the footy world after last Fridays performance the Carlton players were only being honest, we were SOFT

 

[AFL is Number One]

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What The Carlton blokes said probably gives you an insight how we as a club on the field , are perceived by the other clubs.

We are a young team, young bodies, and unfortunately , it will be hard to shake of this "soft" tag....especially after a performance like the one against The Blues on Friday.

It will be interesting as everyone is waiting to see what our on field response will be this Friday against Essendon.

 

[dutchy12]

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I would have thought Mitch's comments were pretty fair. Apparently the bloke is pretty low on intelligence so he probably didn't mean to express himself so literally.

 

[Tempy Tiger]

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I hope he gets knocked out cold next time we play them. If it comes via a big hit from one of our kids that will make it all the better.

 

[Surkin]

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Their comments are spot on. How about instead of being angry at them for making the comments we take them on board and learn from them. I doubt Jurrah has ever had to use the ice pack in his entire career. Would not be surprised if he had a spell down at Casey this week.

 

[J-Train]

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Reading the article, it appears Robinson was just saying that the Dees were dictating the style of the game by playing outside footy and the Blues were disappointed in their first half. So, at half time they made the focus getting to the ball first and putting their heads over it, tackling aggressively, putting some body on etc. Bruise-free was just a throw away line for saying that the Blues were letting the Demons get away with winning too much uncontested ball.

Robinson is probably not the most eloquent spokesperson for the Blues, but if you watched the game on Friday, you would know he throws himself in recklessly and plays a very hard-nosed brand of footy. The outside game wouldn't have suited him at all so for him to say the second half was better from Carlton because we were fiercer in the contest is not really all that surprising is it?

 

[Demon 86]

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I hope he gets knocked out cold next time we play them. If it comes via a big hit from one of our kids that will make it all the better.

I hope so for retribution to the cheap behind play off the cameras broken jaw he gave Rohan Bail in the VFL last year (or might've been year before).

But Mitch is made of concrete so it'll have to be a pretty amazing hit!

My take is that of a few others, the HUN put a pretty loaded question to him and Mitch not being the sharpest tool in the shed responded literally. TBH I loved it! It was honest- rare honesty from an AFL footballer. And more to the point it was accurate- too many soft players in our team who won't dive with reckless abandon into a pack- which Mitch will do.

He's still a tool tho.

 

[ptrg]

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I for one am bloody happy to have these comments out in the open, for several reasons.
One it justifies quite a few of our own supporters, regardless of the cause (and yes, I DO believe our injuries have far more effect than any of us give credit for)

Second is that it may be just what is needed in this situation - an outside club, not the media, challenging us on our hardness at the ball..

Third, geez, we need to put on a better show this Friday. It's imperative! Couple these stinging comments, with a (hopefully) few returning top 10 players, and things might just click.

Fourth- f#ck, baring a disaster, we should have almost all of our best back by round 20, and these things aren't quickly forgotten. Don't forget, as soft as we were, they had two players clearly squib a high ball (Yarren specifically) he was just bloody lucky it was hidden by a good win.
This, the soft accusations, returning players, hell - even Judds hammy probably snapped in two by then [they are Literally only HALF the side without him, and this was shown with our $4 pre-Judd fitness test, followed by $8 at the first bounce after he was confies to play] geez, could be a good game to exact some revenge!

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

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Agree with most, it's good to have some honesty out there from AFL footballers.

I was angry when I heard it, not with Mitch Robinson... more with the fact that is how we are percieved.

It needs to be addressed, obviously.

 

[ptrg]

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Also, interesting to see that between the two of them, only one player was individually singled-out...

Asked to expand on the "bruise game" line, Robinson said: "They wanted some uncontested footy. They were getting out the back, (Brad) Green was rolling up, getting out the back on the corridor cover ... they were getting easy possessions

Once again, sometimes it takes someone from the outside (not the media who push their own agendas with papers to sell), for the most honest comments. I noticed a few posters blindly pointing to Greens stats as a reflective of his game last week.
Anyone who was actually at the game and spent just 5mins only watching him would share similar concerns.. :s

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

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Agree with most, it's good to have some honesty out there from AFL footballers.

I was angry when I hear it, not with Mitch Robinson... more with the fact that is how we are percieved.

It needs to be addressed, obviously.

I agree with this.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

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Also, interesting to see that between the two of them, only one player was individually singled-out...




Once again, sometimes it takes someone from the outside (not the media who push their own agendas with papers to sell), for the most honest comments. I noticed a few posters blindly pointing to Greens stats as a reflective of his game last week.
Anyone who was actually at the game and spent just 5mins only watching him would share similar concerns.. :s

Green was absolutely terrible on the night, shirked the contest on about 4-5 occasions from memory, never went in for the hard ball.

What I don't understand is, why is he playing in the same position as last year? FFS he was almost AA!

Is it because of personnel problems, I'll be honest... I never rated Green too highly as a midfielder.

 

[berniemccarthy]

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Also, interesting to see that between the two of them, only one player was individually singled-out...




Once again, sometimes it takes someone from the outside (not the media who push their own agendas with papers to sell), for the most honest comments. I noticed a few posters blindly pointing to Greens stats as a reflective of his game last week.
Anyone who was actually at the game and spent just 5mins only watching him would share similar concerns.. :s

Not trolling at all here. During On The Couch last night Healey had a shot at Colin Sylvia for not staying with Judd when he was supposed to be tagging him at a stoppage. I noticed early on in the game that Green did exactly the same thing. Stood next to him, arm on arm making contact but as soon as they ball was bounced made zero attempt to either stay with him or stop Judd from getting the ball. Was wondering whether there was a genuine tag or whether the players were just not good at it. Thought Green/Judd might have been a decent match-up.

Just something I noticed.

 

[stickman11]

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Not trolling at all here. During On The Couch last night Healey had a shot at Colin Sylvia for not staying with Judd when he was supposed to be tagging him at a stoppage. I noticed early on in the game that Green did exactly the same thing. Stood next to him, arm on arm making contact but as soon as they ball was bounced made zero attempt to either stay with him or stop Judd from getting the ball. Was wondering whether there was a genuine tag or whether the players were just not good at it. Thought Green/Judd might have been a decent match-up.

Just something I noticed.

Judd has an exclusion zone, if you get too close, he gets an instant free kick.

 

[J-Train]

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Judd has an exclusion zone, if you get too close, he gets an instant free kick.

I reckon that's a myth -- he was awarded one free kick on the night and gave away a free when he was pinged for holding the ball. That's hardly getting an armchair ride from the umpires.

 

[HarveyWallbanger]

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Judd has an exclusion zone, if you get too close, he gets an instant free kick.

Our recent recruitment policy is to get players that "may" be rather than are.

That means they have development upside rather than an instant impact.

When you let go of an inside and influential player such as McDonald and replace him with outside Green, question should be asked.

Why is it when the heat was on before the Adelaide game we came out we a do or die attitude?? It was fantastic to see them tackled every time they got the pill. We need a leader, whether that is onfield or off, to encourage this every single week.

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

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Our recent recruitment policy is to get players that "may" be rather than are.

That means they have development upside rather than an instant impact.

When you let go of an inside and influential player such as McDonald and replace him with outside Green, question should be asked.

Why is it when the heat was on before the Adelaide game we came out we a do or die attitude?? It was fantastic to see them tackled every time they got the pill. We need a leader, whether that is onfield or off, to encourage this every single week.

That is true, but recruiting is for a career rather than the first 3 years for mids and the first 4-5 for KPP's

 

[Mightydees]

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Also, interesting to see that between the two of them, only one player was individually singled-out...




Once again, sometimes it takes someone from the outside (not the media who push their own agendas with papers to sell), for the most honest comments. I noticed a few posters blindly pointing to Greens stats as a reflective of his game last week.
Anyone who was actually at the game and spent just 5mins only watching him would share similar concerns.. :s

I was at the game last week and your comments are spot on. My comment at the time was that Green was getting the "easy ball" and I would not include him in our best players because in reality he had done nothing. I also said that he should be playing in the forward line because that is where he is most effective.

 

[master bate]

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Robinson's a nice bloke, Judd doesn't get special treatment, Carrazzo and Scotland leading by example now I've heard it all.

Maybe Judd's special rules got transferred to Russell at the start of the game, I knew we were going to get screwed when Morton put his head over it, won the hard ball and still got a free against him for being first to the ball.

I can't wait to play Carlton again when we have at least half our good players in. I think a few of our blokes have memories of half wit Robinson belting Bail behind the play.

 

[Mightydees]

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The players should be handed this to read - the general public think we are a joke and the Dees supporters are starting to agree....something has to be done immediately!

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• john melon of werribee Posted at 9:46 AM Today
  I don't like getting a bruise either so can sympathize with the Melbourne football club. It can hurt for days & then you end up with a 5 day old unattractive yellowy bruise that can last for a further 4 days or so. So everyone should back off Melbourne & think about how much YOU like getting bruises, it's not fun.
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• BozzoDaClone of Home Posted at 9:49 AM Today
  They do make a statement, "We're Soft". I've seen 'em make it over and over again. Dunno what Shwartzeee is talking about.
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• David of Malvern Posted at 9:49 AM Today
  What you did not realise till now?. What team have you been watching play for the last 5 years!
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• James Nankivell Posted at 9:51 AM Today
  This statement needs to come from Brad Green. But most importantly, it needs to come from the 22 players on the MCG this Friday night in front of footy world. Greeny needs to declare that on Friday night everyone will see some "bruise footy", and then it must be delivered.
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• Bob of Burwood of Burwood Posted at 9:54 AM Today
  Im a Melbourne supporter and I agree, under this coaching panel they DO play bruise free football. Its also time supporters stood up and demanded a better deal from the football dept, As a club we are experts at asking for money and pathetic at delivering on the field. Im even thinking of taking up snow skiing
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• JP of Sydney. Posted at 9:56 AM Today
  The football world? You mean a couple of federated states in a country of 22 million. Who really cares about the Dees and making statements. No wonder the country is a mess with this kind of micro focus.
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• We luv ya Physco of Richmond Posted at 9:57 AM Today
  Bring it on Demons, can't wait to round 20, Physco will towel you up again. We love him!!! You should be thanking him not canning him.
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• Omar of Richmond Posted at 9:57 AM Today
  The Ox's comments show where Melbourne is at as a club. The statement shouldn't come from Swabby or Connels it should come from the 22 men wearing red and blue on Friday night. That is the only place where they can gain respect.
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• Johnn Vegas of Croydon North Posted at 10:03 AM Today
  WOW! Two of the games greatest spuds to play senior football in Robinson & Armfield bag out the MFC, surely now they have become a joke to the rest of the AFL yes it is time to take a stand but with half a senior team it makes it hard.
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• Adrian Posted at 10:03 AM Today
  Says D Schwartz who didnt stand up for his mates in the 2000 Grand Final and allowed the Dees youngsters to get beaten up and intimidated. Agree with what you say Ox but seriously you have little credibility. You are part of the reason Melbourne is completely soft
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• Paddy of Box Hill Posted at 10:08 AM Today
  Melbourne has stood up and given a message to the football community. It was said loud and clear last weekend when they went into a defencive mode and yelled out loudly, "We cannot win and will try to limit the size of the defeat" Not exactly a good game plan.
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• BomberBlitz of Queensland Posted at 10:12 AM Today
  why doteams always want to "make a statement" the week they play Essendon??? Do it next week....
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• robbo Posted at 10:15 AM Today
  I think it's time for the OX to give them the old line in the sand talk like Dermie.
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• jimmy mac of melbourne Posted at 10:16 AM Today
  i'm a melbourne supporter and i've tried to avoid ever ragging on our club or players but friday night was an embaressment, james frawley getting knocked aside by eddie betts and brad green our captain throwing a left hand out instead of taking a bump and killing a ball cost us two goals and it was the theme of the game, injuries are not an excuse for playing this brand of football, the emotional investment supporters put in each weeks is not worth what the players are putting on the pitch.
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• Andrew Posted at 10:16 AM Today
  I love the fact that the 'bruise' comments were made by the 2 who should concentrate on their own game. Armfield and Robinson are both c grade footballers, both used as substitutes on many occassions due to their lack of being a complete footballers, let's just see if they are still in the top 22 if and when Carlton win in the first week of the finals.
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• Tazza of Ballarat Posted at 10:19 AM Today
  As a Melbourne member and a football supporter, I can comment Melbourne are a soft side, but not the SOFTEST side. Whenever we go in hard at the ball and players we seem to be punished by the umpires and/or by injuries. This stings a young playing groups minds. As for friday night, did noone notice, we had 11 of our 22 first-choice playing group out of the side due to suspensions and injuries. We have players in and out of the vfl every week, this damages a teams structure and is hard to work with. Give us a bloody break.
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• Lloydy of Ararat Posted at 10:19 AM Today
  Wait one more week then stand up! Go Dons.
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• Dave of Ferntree Gully Posted at 10:20 AM Today
  I'm predicting a bold showing on Queens Birthday Monday versus the Pies and then hearing a player say "we have been ready for this game for a few weeks". Happens each year. Do Melbourne need this big game to play well?
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• Dean Stuart of Melbourne Posted at 10:27 AM Today
  its funny but true!!
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• Troy of Melb Posted at 10:27 AM Today
  As a Carlton supporter, the MFC need to listen to those comments. These 2 players probably shouldnt have given info away on what other clubs think of the MFC, but it is obvious that this was the info feed to them by the coaches at half time. Ya the comment will sting a bit, but anyone who watch the game on friday will probabaly agree that the Demons played bruise free outside footy, and it made for a terrible game to watch. MFC need to take it on board, and change the the way they play as the stats dont lie. 14th in contested position, 14th in tackles is a damming stat.
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• Mike of Melbourne Posted at 10:31 AM Today
  SPOT ON DAVID - The Dees need to stand up and be hardest at the ball. It is very frustrating when you see soft acts. Even if we loose, if the players put in 100% effort at the ball then we can't complain. (Frustrated Dees supporter and member) P.S. We wont be hard at the ball until we get rid of Dean the bean!
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• Sam of Australia Posted at 10:31 AM Today
  If I read another one of these articles about Melbourne I think I may have to stop reading this paper. It's not time for Melbourne to make a statement, they've made plenty! The problem is they are constantly stating their need to make statements which is utter irony given the amount of statements they make about making statements! They need to do something.
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• Rama of Richmond Posted at 10:32 AM Today
  As a Tigers supporter, it's nice to see sides like Melbourne (especially) and Carlton have injuries to there No. 1 draft picks that have halted there progress as they have BOTH been guilty of tanking for draft picks. I'm happy with the Tigers progress knowing we will not ever tank regardless of ladder position. I remember the Demons supporter laughing/clapping when the got bottom place...who's laughing now Deee's !!! Bloody weak !!!
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• Martie of Somewhere Posted at 10:33 AM Today
  Whats the bet that Melbourne will come out hard, but ultimatley probably lose about 3-4 players to suspension from the "soft" rules that now govern our game a-la Trengove.
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• Billytea of Ballarat Posted at 10:35 AM Today
  Haven't got the cattle,too many injuries,so until we stabilise our playing group,play the kids.Scully ,Trengrove,Evans Nicholson and GAWN and Mckenzie in the centre in spurts with the senior group,at least what I've seen of this group they have a go. Lets see how Max Gawn can play.Martin needs a chop out anyway,so whack him down forward and changing in the ruck.
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• Marty T of VIC Posted at 10:39 AM Today
  Melbourne have been a soft team for years, have a look at their record. Even with draft picks and priority , they cant get it together on the field. Every team in the AFL must relish playing them, as a percentage booster.
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• sean hawthorn of hawthorn Posted at 10:42 AM Today
  normally other clubs take shots at our recruiting however both scully and trengrove are not a patch on our dustin and i know scully is inj but he doesnt have the presence of martin big mistake deeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss
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• Jeff of Aquinas Posted at 10:43 AM Today
  yeah you normally do play footy standing up, I have found if you sit on the ground you cant kick, tackle or spoil the ball: and in todays game that is pretty important well said dave
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• Ox is a joke Posted at 10:45 AM Today
  The Ox - the guy who injured his knee playing basketball but got a huge payout from playing only a few games for the D's. Your disgraceful. What a joke.
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• Paul of Collingwood Posted at 10:49 AM Today
  I think the list managers at MFC have focussed their recruiting too far south of the yarra. We need some hard nuts from the north!!
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• Captain Juddy of Melbourne Posted at 10:52 AM Today
  Hey J Vegas, speaking of spuds. You forgot to mention Jack Watts! Biggest spud of the lot. Easily the most overrated number 1 pick the game has ever seen. Id take Robinson and Armfield any day of the week over that puppet. At least they will go in for the ball. A team of marshmallows those demons!!
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• WMC of Melb Posted at 10:52 AM Today
  Jack Watts is as soft as they come
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• Troy of Melb Posted at 10:53 AM Today
  Andrew Posted at 10:16 AM Today, Mitch Robinson hasnt been used once as a sub! Secondly there comments where not ther own personal thoughts, they where team instructions given by coachs. They just repeated (wrongly) to the media. They are both young players that made a mistake saying things to the media they shouldnt have , and the Blues wont be happy about it. But the point is this is what other teams think of MFC, and they should take that on board and if they have any steel in that side they will work on changing the options of what other clubs think of them. Make a positive out of this and use it to harden your playing group instead of whinging about it!
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• Sam the Swan of Gosford Posted at 10:54 AM Today
  So Melbourne are soft so welcome to my team the Sydney Swans a team of pretty boys who don't like getting their shorts dirty let alone get bruised.AFL has too many teams not enough AFL standard players time to drop teams who can't pay their way better to do it now than later oh they'll be whining but so what,the Dees must go so the kangas Port Adelaide GWS ,they'll all do well in the VFL.
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• Rob Posted at 10:54 AM Today
  The problem is that last time Melbourne went hard they got a bullsh*t tribunal decision that basically said "if you tackle properly you will get 3 weeks suspension"...
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• Just like Schwarz Posted at 10:56 AM Today
  Think the Dees have already been making a statement this season.... LOSERS
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We luv ya Physco of Richmond Posted at 9:57 AM Today
Bring it on Demons, can't wait to round 20, Physco will towel you up again. We love him!!! You should be thanking him not canning him.

I know it's not very polite to laugh at those unfortunate enough to believe the Murdoch press provides anything approaching news, but

Canned Phyco, now 20% off!​