Burgatron: Phantom Draft

[Stiffy_18]

Maybe Neaves would be an option, or DeVries, although I know nothing about him.

Stiffy, why would we go for a KPP with one of our first three picks? Has the club already decided to do that?

What if we take Wood with #8 and Eckerman is available at #24, and Jackson at #28 - I know I would want Jackson, even if Copping or Hartlett were available.

Neaves is too young to rookie list. He is eligible for another year at the U18 and if he doesn't get picked up in ND then he can't be picked up in any way before ND next year.

Because this draft is strong on KPP. Yes the club has decided to go with the strength of the draft. They would want to come away from this draft with a ruckman and a KPP along with a couple of midfielders. I would take Eckermann and Hartlett over Eckermann and Jackson any day.

Good KPP don't come around that often while midfielders do. You have to realise that drafting strategy is not only what is available in this draft but also what is available in next year's draft. This draft is strong on talls. Next year's draft will not be as strong as it is this year. So we will pick up a ruckman and KPP this year and stock up on midfielders next year.

Wood + Eckermann + Hartlett >>> Wood + Eckermann + Jackson

Ruckman > KPP > Midfielder = golden rule of successful recruiting.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I'm really looking forward to tommorrow....it can't come quickly enough...I think another 2 weeks of analysis would probably see some people's opinions change another 14 times.

Isn't that the truth. James Fantasia himself said that apart from having trouble sleeping in the last 3-4 weeks, his first choice player @ pick 8 has changed a number of times in the last month or so.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Isn't that the truth. James Fantasia himself said that apart from having trouble sleeping in the last 3-4 weeks, his first choice player @ pick 8 has changed a number of times in the last month or so.

What me worry, nah, no way.

 

[Damien_R1]

Isn't that the truth. James Fantasia himself said that apart from having trouble sleeping in the last 3-4 weeks, his first choice player @ pick 8 has changed a number of times in the last month or so.

Having said that, i'd still be surprised if we didnt take Wood at 8 if he was available.

Do you reckon Fantasia is feeling the heat due to our poor list management over the last few years ?

 

[Portia]

He would be crapping himself if you guys picked Wood and Monfries had a Schammer-esque debut season.

If he's feeling too much pressure, then you could end up with a non-optimal result - recommending a choice on the likelihood of job retention rather than the club's best long-term interests.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Having said that, i'd still be surprised if we didnt take Wood at 8 if he was available.

Do you reckon Fantasia is feeling the heat due to our poor list management over the last few years ?

No I don't think its feeling the heat I think its more like wanting to get the best player possible at pick 8 and not wanting to make any sort of mistake.

I think its a good thing that he has changed his mind a number of times. It means that each pick is more scrutinised with a finer comb.

I think he settled his selection on Wood unless there is a slider. I would be surprised if it went any other way.

 

[Stiffy_18]

What me worry, nah, no way.

What are your stress levels like these days??????

Sit back relax and enjoy the ride. Nothing to worry about.

 

[conVINCEd]

Neaves is too young to rookie list. He is eligible for another year at the U18 and if he doesn't get picked up in ND then he can't be picked up in any way before ND next year.

Because this draft is strong on KPP. Yes the club has decided to go with the strength of the draft. They would want to come away from this draft with a ruckman and a KPP along with a couple of midfielders. I would take Eckermann and Hartlett over Eckermann and Jackson any day.

Good KPP don't come around that often while midfielders do. You have to realise that drafting strategy is not only what is available in this draft but also what is available in next year's draft. This draft is strong on talls. Next year's draft will not be as strong as it is this year. So we will pick up a ruckman and KPP this year and stock up on midfielders next year. QUOTE]

I know Neaves is too young to rookie, I just forgot it when I wrote my post.

I know there some quality KPP options, but I still like the sound of Eckerman, Jackson, Bain, McQualter etc, and I am worried about out future midfield.

When you say 'next year's draft will not be as strong as it is this year', do you mean in terms of KPP or overall? Because you have questioned the quality of this year's draft a number of times - if next years is weaker, then why didn't we make it a priority to get better, and more, picks this year?

 

[Stiffy_18]

I know there some quality KPP options, but I still like the sound of Eckerman, Jackson, Bain, McQualter etc, and I am worried about out future midfield.

When you say 'next year's draft will not be as strong as it is this year', do you mean in terms of KPP or overall? Because you have questioned the quality of this year's draft a number of times - if next years is weaker, then why didn't we make it a priority to get better, and more, picks this year?

But most years you get just as impressive midfielders but not as many good KPP. I understand your midfield worry but we are still good for 3-4 years in that department. Young midfielders develop quicker than talls so if you need a tall to come in and step up in 3-4 years time you draft them now. If you want a midfielder to come in and step up in 2-3 years you draft them next year or the year after

I mean it won't be as strong in terms of talls. It should be good for midfielders. Thats why you pick talls this year and steal a good midfielder @24 or @ 28 this year and stock up on more midfield quality next year.

You have to go with the strength of the draft. As I said earlier picking up players in the draft is not just about whats available this year but also whats available next year and the year after.

Surely you have to go with the strength of the draft especially considering we need bit of everything.

If we end up with Wood, Eckermann and Hartlett with first 3 picks then I would be very happy and we honestly couldn't ask for anything more than that. That would be a very fine piece of recruiting by the club.

 

[Mad Dog]

He would be crapping himself if you guys picked Wood and Monfries had a Schammer-esque debut season.

If he's feeling too much pressure, then you could end up with a non-optimal result - recommending a choice on the likelihood of job retention rather than the club's best long-term interests.

that's the problem - comparisons will be made for ever....we've just got to pick one of them (hopefully) - and move on and recognise that where our club is at the moment - there probably isn't a wrong choice..

 

[theorangeapple]

next years top line KPP will be of the highest order. better than roughead and franklin. guys like dowler, clark (WA) and drum are all outstanding prospects. but it looks like the ruck depth wont be their like this year.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Well that was a suprising phantom draft. but i've got to say its the closest because burgan takes acout into all their performances. Footydrafts only looks at the National championships

He was on radio and made a lot of sense talks with club recruiters over the full year, gets inside tips, but even he said that after 20 its anyones guess

Re Wood V Monfries, he did say that up until a couple of weeks ago it was completely line ball - but Wood has edged forward in the two weeks since.
Reports are that he could be one of the best potentially (sorry about that word)

Would they have consulted a geniologist to determine his ability to put weight on and what he could finish up at??

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I read up on the lad in Inside Football (there is an article on him) and he sounds like a good prospect.

Honestly players at his height are a dime a dozen. If we picked him up we could get half a dozen equal to him at #56.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Doubt it very much.

If we pick up Wood @ 8, which I think we will, we won't pick up another ruckman in the draft. We might rookie list one more to go with Andrews

I think we will pick up a ruckman, KPP and a midfielder with our first 3 picks but not neccessarily in that order

I think your right re the first 4 picks ie KPP and 2 midfielders, but we may go Griffen at 56?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

When you say 'next year's draft will not be as strong as it is this year', do you mean in terms of KPP or overall? Because you have questioned the quality of this year's draft a number of times - if next years is weaker, then why didn't we make it a priority to get better, and more, picks this year?

No-one has said next years draft is weaker, fact is there's just a different mix of player types next year with an emphasis on midfielders.

With so many talls this draft, we need to take advantage of it with picks 24 & 28 by picking up at least one quality KPP.

 

[macca23]

No-one has said next years draft is weaker, fact is there's just a different mix of player types next year with an emphasis on midfielders.

With so many talls this draft, we need to take advantage of it with picks 24 & 28 by picking up at least one quality KPP.

There have been plenty of comments made by the amateur experts that this year's draft not being a strong one. Kevin Sheehan put the lie to that tonight on 5AA when he said it was a deep draft, and there'll still be kids at 50 capable of playing AFL from which the clubs will have to choose.

For that reason I really want us to use pick 56 tomorrow, and worry about the PDS if Stevo doesn't make it.

As for next year's draft, yeah, all the armchair experts will say it's a weak draft etc etc blah blah, but there'll still be plenty of kids taken from it that'll make it. They're there every year.

 

[Mong]

I guess we can relax in the knowledge that we are assured another good draft pick next year.


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[mymansyd]

For that reason I really want us to use pick 56 tomorrow, and worry about the PDS if Stevo doesn't make it.

As for next year's draft, yeah, all the armchair experts will say it's a weak draft etc etc blah blah, but there'll still be plenty of kids taken from it that'll make it. They're there every year.

I agree, I really want us to use pick 56 as well. Especially, if there has been some overlooked genuine talent to that point.

Interesting isn't it? If we only use 4 picks tomorrow, that would almost be confirmation that Stevens WILL play on next year. If we use 5, then it is unlikely he will play on next year, especially considering all the talk about drafting Adam Fisher in the pre-season draft.

 

[Stiffy_18]

There have been plenty of comments made by the amateur experts that this year's draft not being a strong one. Kevin Sheehan put the lie to that tonight on 5AA when he said it was a deep draft, and there'll still be kids at 50 capable of playing AFL from which the clubs will have to choose.

For that reason I really want us to use pick 56 tomorrow, and worry about the PDS if Stevo doesn't make it.

As for next year's draft, yeah, all the armchair experts will say it's a weak draft etc etc blah blah, but there'll still be plenty of kids taken from it that'll make it. They're there every year.

He also said he would pick Wood over Monfries when Graham asked him about it

 

[Stiffy_18]

I think your right re the first 4 picks ie KPP and 2 midfielders, but we may go Griffen at 56?

Doubt it.

My mail is that we will pass on pick 56 unless there is someone there that we consider an absolute steal (ala Johncock in 2000)

 

[WaynesWorld19]

He also said he would pick Wood over Monfries when Graham asked him about it

hey hey, enough talk about 8 - the real challenge is picking quality at 24 & 28.

People give me your tips

 

[Crow-mosone]

No-one has said next years draft is weaker, fact is there's just a different mix of player types next year with an emphasis on midfielders.

every upcoming draft is weak, not as good last year - until 2 weeks before.

 

[Stiffy_18]

hey hey, enough talk about 8 - the real challenge is picking quality at 24 & 28.

People give me your tips

My tips

Pick 8: Cameron Wood
Pick 24: I think this is the one where we could get one of those players that we considered for pick 8. I will play safe in assuming they will all be picked up so I will say Ben Eckermann
Pick 28: Adam Hartlett
Pick 40: Danyle Pearce (Hoping and praying from this moment until I go to bed )

 

[WaynesWorld19]

My tips

Pick 8: Cameron Wood
Pick 24: I think this is the one where we could get one of those players that we considered for pick 8. I will play safe in assuming they will all be picked up so I will say Ben Eckermann
Pick 28: Adam Hartlett
Pick 40: Danyle Pearce (Hoping and praying from this moment until I go to bed )

Its a guess I know but somehow think Hatlett won't go to us - certainly not at 28.
He was available last year - was hyped up, we needed KPP, and we overlooked him. Don't think on that basis we will take him

 

[crowsarethebest]

Next year is very light on ruckmna. so i think we'd better stock up. I think we should pick up at least 1 ruckman and rookie list a few. Next years midfield stocks are mouthwatering you'll see
My tips.
Pick 8 cameron wood.
Pick 24 pattison/ Grundy / Eckerman
Pick 28 Redden/ Rusling / Mcqualter If we pcik up a midfielder we'll use this on a KPP
Pick 40 Danyle Pearce/Moore Praying Oh lord Jesus Give US PEARCE Amen
Pcik 56 Pass unless a player thats going to be better than fisher