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irish_setanta said:
And they are still better than Allan and Murphy, and Bannister is still playing along with McGrath, wheres allan and murphy?

Murphy and Allan were only ever considered to be short-term players and did exactly what we wanted them to do. Get us to a finals series, and fill a void while young players (Dyson, Stanton in Murphy's case, Hille, Laycock in Allan's case) develop. They did that and I still think they will contribute more in 2006 that Bannister will.
 
lutts said:
Sorry - but wasn't SOS asking for too much money one of the reasons why you had problems with the salary cap?
Great loyalty!!!!
Did he leave?
If you want to express loyalty to a club then you should be using Chris Grant as the example!
Or Nathan Buckley, Anthony Rocca, Shane O'Bree, Blake Caracella, etc.
 
Longy413 said:
Murphy and Allan were only ever considered to be short-term players and did exactly what we wanted them to do. Get us to a finals series, and fill a void while young players (Dyson, Stanton in Murphy's case, Hille, Laycock in Allan's case) develop. They did that and I still think they will contribute more in 2006 that Bannister will.
Murphy and Allan had 2 seasons at Essendon. What happened in the second season? Why was Sheedy so keen for Allan to play on next season if he had done what the club wanted him to do? So is Campo there just to fill in a void as well? And Heffernan? That's a lot of voids. The recruiting of Allan was an admission on Sheedy's part that he still did not have faith in Hille's ability to carry the ruck. The same reason that Salmon was reintroduced prior to that.
 

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mediumsizered said:
Murphy and Allan had 2 seasons at Essendon. What happened in the second season?

Allan was injured, Murphy got surpassed by kids. It isn't a failure if Dyson and Stanton start playing better footy, that is what we wanted them to do.

mediumsizered said:
Why was Sheedy so keen for Allan to play on next season if he had done what the club wanted him to do?

Probably because Allan was seen as a better back up alternative to Henneman and Cartledge isn't ready. Can't argue with that.

mediumsizered said:
So is Campo there just to fill in a void as well? And Heffernan? That's a lot of voids.

Yeah. We have a weakness with midfield depth. That's one void, not a lot of voids. Heffernan is 26 remember, the same age as Saddington. Don't most clubs use late picks to draft for weaknesses?

mediumsizered said:
The recruiting of Allan was an admission on Sheedy's part that he still did not have faith in Hille's ability to carry the ruck. The same reason that Salmon was reintroduced prior to that.

Correct. Because he was a kid who played little junior footy, focusing on volleyball. He needed time to develop and I can't off the top of my head think of a ruckman holding the fort at the age of 20-22 other than Steven King in recent times. Hille was 20 when Salmon came to the club, he was 22 when Allan came, that is very young for a ruckman. He's ready now, but few ruckman in the game still ruck 120 minutes and both Grand Finalists this season had two viable options. And as above, Allan is still a better option than Henneman or a raw Cartledge and it releases Laycock forward. If we could have got another year out of Allan we perhaps could have delisted Henneman and afforded the time for Cartledge and Laycock to develop further. In the end, you can't help injuries and Hille himself has publicly admitted the large benifits he got from having a ruckman like Allan at the club.
 
lutts said:
Sorry - but wasn't SOS asking for too much money one of the reasons why you had problems with the salary cap?
Great loyalty!!!!

There was a time where SOS had a massive fallout with our ex-president, John Elliot. And during that time his contract was up, and Richmond were offering him a large, juicy contract.

Despite the scuffles with Elliot, he re-signed for a much lesser amount. So don't you dare come in here and question the loyalty of one of our greatest players if you don't have the facts to back you up.

As for this thread, I don't want it to turn into a huge flame, so I'll be keeping an eye on this one. Please be civil ... that goes for both sides. Any signs of disrespect and trolling will be dealt with swiftly and this thread closed. Am I making myself clear?
 
Longy413, you're a real champion poster, honestly. You never let anyone get anything over your club, including trolls. All whilst staying civilised and constructive. Impressive!

Although, not even you can convince me that Essendon have no dirty laundry.

I'm not talking about this thread btw, just an observation...
 
Funkalicous said:
Longy413, you're a real champion poster, honestly. You never let anyone get anything over your club, including trolls. All whilst staying civilised and constructive. Impressive!

Cheers.

Funkalicous said:
Although, not even you can convince me that Essendon have no dirty laundry.

I will and have admitted to our failures. There are plenty of examples, especially on the Essendon board.

I just honestly don't believe Murphy and Allan rank among them.
 
TheHeatleyStand said:
We should believe what you the tripper- boy says then right?

If he isnt a cancer why did he leave for money???

He did say he wanted to be a one club player during the season did he not?
He didnt leave for the money last year when we have him over 600k.

I wou;d have believed him if he had walked last season.....(that its not for the $$$$$$$)

The guy is a cancer....
And for the Essendon supporters who think were crying over sour grapes..
Take a look in TC what we have thought about his football, his character and his leadership over the last 2 years.

He wasnt worth a player in trade.,

He is a pathetic little weed who has had it all handed to him on a platter.

The sooner he was out the better.

Youll know what we mean by round 12.

Camporeale did not leave just for money. Camporeale left because he wasn't appreciated by the club.
Camporeale left because Essendon offered him more acceptance.
Camporeale will be a good acquasition to Essendon because he has the tough nuts around him. Carlton don't and he knows he will excel in this environment.

Your wrong again Synbad, always are, always will be.
Your just loud with no football knowledge but enough inside "whispers" to make you stand out.

Now I feel better.:D
 

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