Club Focus Carlton 2023

[Jeremias]

Data from footywire. To check the draft order see the thread here.

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[Ash24]

Assuming we do re-sign TDK for 2 more years, I don't believe we will be big players in the Free Agency and Trade Period.

Suspect McGovern and Dow will go, and the club will shop Martin around..

The list is shaping up rather nicely tbh.

Why would Gov go?

 

[Red Bull]

Why would Gov go?

He’ll be in line for a decent haircut.
Depends what his priorities are,
Money or helping to build a contending team …

 

[branedotorg]

He’ll be in line for a decent haircut.
Depends what his priorities are,
Money or helping to build a contending team …

Can't imagine he'd be on a big wage anywhere next contract, pushing 30, huge injury risk.

I'd hope we give him short rolling contracts, his main reason to leave would be security imo not dollars

 

[Red Bull]

Can't imagine he'd be on a big wage anywhere next contract, pushing 30, huge injury risk.

I'd hope we give him short rolling contracts, his main reason to leave would be security imo not dollars

Agreed,
He’s had his big contract.
Carlton’s offer should be short term performance based contract with the carrot being the chance to be part of a contending team.
If that’s not acceptable to him he’s free to test the market.
Any club offering him a long term contract must fancy Russian roulette …

 

[adammania9]

Not that I want to lose him, but the Blues should seriously be in Ginnivan’s ear. If he’s not in our best side come finals, and I don’t think he will be, the Blues can offer him a 3 or 4 year deal and say “you’ll be our best small and play every single week” and that might be enough for him to tell the pies it’s the best move for my career.

I also think they should let De Koning walk and let Goldstein play on in navy blue for a year or two while they sort their sh*t out and find a good young ruck prospect. They need a ruck with mitts. Matt Flynn could be an option too.

 

[branedotorg]

Not that I want to lose him, but the Blues should seriously be in Ginnivan’s ear. If he’s not in our best side come finals, and I don’t think he will be, the Blues can offer him a 3 or 4 year deal and say “you’ll be our best small and play every single week” and that might be enough for him to tell the pies it’s the best move for my career.

I also think they should let De Koning walk and let Goldstein play on in navy blue for a year or two while they sort their sh*t out and find a good young ruck prospect. They need a ruck with mitts. Matt Flynn could be an option too.

Not the worst Oppo analysis tbh but not Goldy, he's cooked.

Ginivan has been surpassed by hill and others and if he can get his first instinct to duck out of his game is worth it for most teams

 

[Euku]

How much is paddy dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

worth? Early 3rd?

 

[Foxman98]

How much is paddy dow worth? Early 3rd?

Nothing DFA

 

[branedotorg]

he's OOC and free to a good home, especially as he apparently has a reasonable wage attached.

 

[RAPPA]

How much is paddy dow worth? Early 3rd?

Whatever SOS puts on the table for him

 

[bird_man]

How much is paddy dow worth? Early 3rd?

Carlton would love to be dealing with you.

 

[bird_man]

How is Binns not getting a gake at the Blue?

Seems like the player they are screaming out for right now, even if he is raw

 

[boncer34]

Cripps. He'll be 29 at the start of next season and it's looking increasingly likely his finals drought will extend this season. Would anyone blame him if he jumped ship before his banged up body totally gave out?

Where would he go? What's he worth?

The obvious destination has always been WA but going to West Coast for finals atm makes no sense whilst I don't know if Freo have the currency to get him, Carlton would want more than their future first.

 

[Obeanie1]

He's a one club player.

Close thread.

 

[rye]

contracted to 2027 close thread mods

hes struggling to move now

wouldnt want to see the kind of football hes playing in 2027

 

[Vindicater]

Need to cut some dead weight but the big contracts will really hamper them.

 

[Mr Cheese]

Cripps. He'll be 29 at the start of next season and it's looking increasingly likely his finals drought will extend this season. Would anyone blame him if he jumped ship before his banged up body totally gave out?

Where would he go? What's he worth?

The obvious destination has always been WA but going to West Coast for finals atm makes no sense whilst I don't know if Freo have the currency to get him, Carlton would want more than their future first.

We wouldn't take him. Not in an 'opposing player is shit' kinda way, he's a gun, just that our list demographic has moved away from where he is, and quietly I reckon Matt Johnson may be as big a contested beast in a year or so. West Coast would just be for a massive pay day and provide leadership; he'd be better staying at the Blues.

 

[Daka]

If Richmond listened to outside noise at the end of 2016 so called experts saying we need to "rebuild" we would not have won 2017, 2019, 2020 premierships.


Carlton needs to hold their nerve sacking another coach will only set them back further.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Herald Sun's Sam Landsberger is speculating that Carlton could seek inspiration from the Bowes trade, and offer a smaller Victorian club Williams with their first rounder.

Do they say to North Melbourne or St Kilda – here, take our No. 6 pick plus Williams and we will use the $800,000 saved to sign players who can help win the 2024 flag?

Williams, who turns 29 this year, signed a six-year $5 million contract. Halfway through that deal he will have played 23 games.

Next year he will be coming off an ACL while the Blues should be in premiership mode. So do they cut their losses and dump that salary?

The Blues will save a bundle next year when Mitch McGovern

11

Mitch Mcgovern

Age

29

Ht

190cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

189.8

3star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.1

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

179.6

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

218.0

4star

’s $700,000 deal expires – whether they trade him or re-sign him for half that price.

But they are bracing for more than one of De Koning, Jack Silvagni

1

Jack Silvagni

Age

26

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

5.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.3

1star

M

1.7

2star

T

0.7

1star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.8

4star

, Paddy Dow

15

Paddy Dow

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

7.1

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

12.4

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

and McGovern to go.

Source: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...n/news-story/52be6aa15c062e7a182daef7e7b76603

Reckon most North fans would take that deal every day of the week.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Herald Sun's Sam Landsberger is speculating that Carlton could seek inspiration from the Bowes trade, and offer a smaller Victorian club Williams with their first rounder.

Source: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...n/news-story/52be6aa15c062e7a182daef7e7b76603

Reckon most North fans would take that deal every day of the week.

There would be no Princes Park left if they used our first to dump a contracted player.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Would cancel my membership if after the year we've had, we sent off our first pick which could be up to pick 5 to get rid of Williams

 

[adammania9]

That is the absolute one thing they can’t do. Their first rounder is currently their only pick likely to be used, and they need an influx of good youngsters

It won’t happen but they should seriously look at parting with Cripps, and he should look at parting from them. He may lead by example in terms of ability, but he is no leader or director. If you think it may destroy Carlton’s culture, I say what culture? What they’ve had for so long is not a successful culture. Cripps may not be responsible for that, but they’ve got to look at options.

 

[Obeanie1]

He’ll be in line for a decent haircut.
Depends what his priorities are,
Money or helping to build a contending team …

$600k was good money. Now the average AFL salary is $450k. So $600k is just better than average, not great money.

 

[Obeanie1]

We wouldn't take him. Not in an 'opposing player is s**t' kinda way, he's a gun, just that our list demographic has moved away from where he is, and quietly I reckon Matt Johnson may be as big a contested beast in a year or so. West Coast would just be for a massive pay day and provide leadership; he'd be better staying at the Blues.

It would make sense if Fyfe bailed. Like for like but a couple of years younger.

Both captains ex catptain so a big call.

 

[Vindicater]

Cripps would suit Essendon well.

Could you imagine the boos though if it happened.