There's zero hype on Voss
He'd be regarded in the bottom half of current coaches and would have been for a while
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Coach Carlton and Michael Voss - where to now
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He'd be regarded in the bottom half of current coaches and would have been for a while
Could almost be a coach killer move
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There was from the media and the Carlton fans on here. You'd be forgiven for thinking they had signed Chris Scott/Clarko/Hardwick. Just bizarre.
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I have come around a little on Silvagni… he is a very average player but he does have a crack. He worked his arse off to lift them in the last quarter last night.
“Having a crack” should just be a non-negotiable, but it’s not.
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Every team needs heart and soul guys who will just have a crack no matter what role is asked of them. Not sure you can that about many others at Carlton apart from Silvagni. Doesn't deserve the whipping boy status he gets
Carlton under Voss have been good for one financial year. From start of 2nd quarter in round 14 2023 to end of 1st quarter in round 17 2024.
They're wasting a talented top end with ridiculous list management decisions and an outdated gameplan.
The modern game requires plenty of good runners and pressure small forwards. Carlton still think only clearances and contested possessions with heavy reliance on their spine will win you the flag.
They're wasting a talented top end with ridiculous list management decisions and an outdated gameplan.
The modern game requires plenty of good runners and pressure small forwards. Carlton still think only clearances and contested possessions with heavy reliance on their spine will win you the flag.
Slayers slug I guess.
Anyway, I love a good reactionary thread but it's one game. They will be alright.
Agree
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Was it Cottrell who shot for goal with a banana in the pocket when he could have squared it to loose teammates directly in front of the big sticks late in the 4th?
Deadset could have changed the outcome of the game if he dished it off for the goal assist instead of going for it himself.
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JSOS one of the few who truly lifted for them late. Has limited talent at the AFL level but has carved out a career putting in a shift wherever he gets told to play. He can hold his head a little higher than many of his teammates.
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Absolutely but they seem exceptions to the rule.
Clarkson, Hardwick and Chris Scott were hardly superstars. Longmire was very good but who had even heard of Ross Lyon? Bevo and Hinkley are polarizing but both long term coaches that weren't star players. Chris Fagan never even played at the top level.
And yet, these are the names that are talked up as top level coaches in the modern game.
Voss, Hird and Buckley have all failed.
Rob Harvey can't get past the interview stage.
Most other stars go into the media rather than coaching.
JSOS appeared to be the only player who was really trying for Carlton
The rest appeared to “expect” they would win.
They were humbled, and hopefully they learn that hard work and effort is required to be great.
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Rubbish.
Plenty of fans were willing to give him a chance after his failed stint at Brisbane.
But nobody was saying we had signed some genius coach. That’s just flat out laughable to imply that.
Vossy is probably a pretty good coach but they don't have the list. It's been said multiple times but their top 6 is excellent (maybe the best top 6 players in the league) but their depth is seriously lacking.
This hurts on 2 fronts: it there are any injuries to their top 6 they are screwed, and also footy is played on a big field with 18 players, obviously.
- They are maybe a bit unlucky that guys they thought were going to be gun recruits, like Cerra, Williams, McGovern, are just decent AFL players without being stars.
This hurts on 2 fronts: it there are any injuries to their top 6 they are screwed, and also footy is played on a big field with 18 players, obviously.
- They are maybe a bit unlucky that guys they thought were going to be gun recruits, like Cerra, Williams, McGovern, are just decent AFL players without being stars.
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Scott, Hardwick and Hinkley are all B&F winners and the latter two are All-Australians.
They don't have the accolades of Voss, Hird or Buckley but they were all very good players and had notably better playing careers than Clarkson or Lyon.
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Who are the 6?
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It was round one we move on. I fancy us to lift and beat the Hawks on Thursday.
This goes deeper than just lifting intensity. There's been a few in-depth reviews on where your structures, ball movement and decision making went wrong. It was diabolical. And it has been a trend for years, even during winning runs. Can't switch those things overnight. Either 1.your coaching group has no idea about AFL level game plans, 2. they struggle to message it to the players, 3.the players just lack the IQ to implement it, or 4. a mixture of all the above.
You will win games on pure athletic ability and contest alone but that's where it ends. The current group will never get close to any sort of success. Only way to possibly achieve anything with the current group is to hope point no.3 isn't the case and to bring in a high level coach who has demonstrated ability to implement a functional method. I'd be throwing a record paycheck at Longmire.
As it stands Carlton have a local footy level gameplan, the sort where it has to be so simple because local clubs only manage to get half their team to training twice a week - 0 clue on when to zone, when to push up to the spare, where to run in layers on transition, which options are best to use when layering in transition, ability to shift the ground to create space, forward leading patterns, identifying the advantage side of the receiver. all of this is literally non existent, skills comes 2nd and even that is shithouse. End result is your best ball user in adam saad trying to start something only for the next kick being bombed into 50.
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You have no small forwards applying pressure and crumbing to your big blokes.
You have a leaking defense. Weitering was the only one who stood up last year. Has it been addressed over preseason?
You have a game plan that simply does NOT stack up.
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