Carlton greedy, says Chocco

[bourbons]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23844598-19742,00.html

How awesome is Chocco Williams!?? The guy just keeps on giving, always at his own expense - seriously you can get a laugh-a-week out of this bloke lately!

Thanks again for Stevens Chocco you stupid deflecting angry bitter little man!

 

[MarkT]

Who are the 3 top 10 players? I hope he doesn't mean Stevens is one!

He is peeved like everyone at every other club about Carlton's tanking and raping of the draft. Pity the AFL choose to ignore to maintain comeptition rigging. Pity Choco didn't just come out and say what he meant.

 

[The Zebra]

He has got a point:

Judd, Stevens, Murphy, Gibbs, Kruezer, Hampson, Walker all gifted to you for being a pathetic mess.

 

[JeffDunne]

Welcome to last week.

 

[didak04]

Interesting read, and definitely a poor attempt from Mark Williams to deflect attention away from Port's poor effort against Carlton. I'm seeing similarities between Williams and Mark Harvey as neither is prepared to concede that their team is struggling and would rather try to gloss over facts by making insanely stupid comments to the media.

I hate Carlton but after a few years of mediocrity it was only a matter of time before the team started to mature and start performing on the field. As long as they are playing by the rules all the power to them.

Mark Williams, you are an idiot

 

[Chief]

"With their money and the money that has been at Carlton over the years, they have always had what they want."

WTF? Yes Carlton wanted those spoons... and the lost picks... and the fines...

 

[JeffDunne]

Interesting read, and definitely a poor attempt from Mark Williams to deflect attention away from Port's poor effort against Carlton.

Ummm . . . he made the comments before the Carlton game.

 

[Uhumagoo]

Did he want us to not use the picks?

 

[FieryNayta]

Who are the 3 top 10 players? I hope he doesn't mean Stevens is one!

He is peeved like everyone at every other club about Carlton's tanking and raping of the draft. Pity the AFL choose to ignore to maintain comeptition rigging. Pity Choco didn't just come out and say what he meant.

Yeah thats a wierd one. No way do we have 3 of the top 10 players in the league.

Choco is just laying in on thick to make his flacid argument seem more substantial.

If your a crap team, you get the better picks. Thats how it works and we all have to just live with it until the AFL decides to change it.

 

[Cats!!]

Did he want us to not use the picks?

No, he just didn't want you intentionally losing games to get those picks.

 

[BEEG]

He has got a point:

Judd, Stevens, Murphy, Gibbs, Kruezer, Hampson, Walker all gifted to you for being a pathetic mess.

Fair Point alot of clubs would be dirty that if Carlton win a flag with this team it was all done by being a pathetic joke

 

[didak04]

Ummm . . . he made the comments before the Carlton game.

My bad, missed that bit.

Making excuses before the game has even started is even worse on his part though. Almost as if he was worried they were going to lose and was getting in early

 

[Navy Blue Pride]

Did he want us to not use the picks?

Imagine we didnt get stripped of any picks! Although we probably would not have been in a whole that big if we werent.

Im sure the Saints had there fair share when they were rebuilding, unclucky for them they have not been able to capitalise with a premiership.

Choco, get a grip!...but then again..

We are Carlton....!

 

[JeffDunne]

I can understand people hating Carlton but I'm not sure why they should be singled out for this.

Hawthorn's 'raping' of the draft was as obvious as any team especially with the experienced players they off-loaded. Richmond look like drinking from the well in a Carltonesque fashion but nobody's having a go at them.

Western Bulldogs, St Kilda & Collingwood are all teams that have have had a rise on the back of a couple of seasons with early or priority picks.

 

[blues4flag]

Who are the 3 top 10 players? I hope he doesn't mean Stevens is one!

He is peeved like everyone at every other club about Carlton's tanking and raping of the draft. Pity the AFL choose to ignore to maintain comeptition rigging. Pity Choco didn't just come out and say what he meant.

Exactly. And if you think that Carlton intentionally tanked for over the last five years, then you are as delusional as the coaches. During the offseason - we've got a shit list, season starts and we lose games - we're tanking to get the draft picks?

 

[nutcase888]

in the old days before drafts and salary caps we were accused of buying premierships due to our successful recruiting. In the present we are accused of raping the draft for having high draft picks. News flash, the high draft picks are meant to go to the struggling teams and no team has struggled on field more than Carlton this decade. These are the AFL's rules not Carltons.

At the end of the day it all amounts to one thing - envy.

 

[Xsess]

So if Carlton evolve a dynasty within 5 years should there be cheers or derision? That one team has multiple #1 selections on the park at the same time in a 16 team competition is flawed.

 

[nutcase888]

He has got a point:

Judd, Stevens, Murphy, Gibbs, Kruezer, Hampson, Walker all gifted to you for being a pathetic mess.

yup and Carlton would not be in this pathetic mess if we did not have this socialist style system designed to keep clubs like yours afloat.

 

[Flukey!]

I can understand people hating Carlton but I'm not sure why they should be singled out for this.

Hawthorn's 'raping' of the draft was as obvious as any team especially with the experienced players they off-loaded. Richmond look like drinking from the well in a Carltonesque fashion but nobody's having a go at them.

Western Bulldogs, St Kilda & Collingwood are all teams that have have had a rise on the back of a couple of seasons with early or priority picks.

Hawthorn made the draft work for them, as opposed to the Saints who tried and failed.

 

[bourbons]

Welcome to last week.

Blame the herald scum, prominent on their website today.

Can't say I'm suprised though, lol

 

[nutcase888]

So if Carlton evolve a dynasty within 5 years should there be cheers or derision? That one team has multiple #1 selections on the park at the same time in a 16 team competition is flawed.

but i thought our no1 selections were all duds anyway? Funny how the fear comes out when our picks show how good they are.

Go and have a cry. Carlton have been shocking for 6 years so of course we get high draft picks. If u have a problem with this go and write a letter to the AFL b/c it's their system not ours.

 

[bourbons]

No, he just didn't want you intentionally losing games to get those picks.

oh, like hawthorn, collingwood and a number of other teams over the last few years?

No way any of those teams were ever as bad as us either

 

[The Zebra]

yup and Carlton would not be in this pathetic mess if we did not have this socialist style system designed to keep clubs like yours afloat.

Is that a justification for cheating or your club having no spine?

 

[hurricane]

Hawthorn made the draft work for them, as opposed to the Saints who tried and failed.

Really? How so? To this point St Kilda's draft raiding has achieved more than your team has...

 

[Feerits Elf]

Ummm . . . he made the comments before the Carlton game.

Yeah but he knew that Port would put in an insipid performance against Carlton and lose, so he decided to make a pre-emptive strike.

A little black magic from the wizard