Carlton player Liam Jones refusing vax - Update: Jones retires from AFL

[Sentinel]

Against mandating it. There are a lot more adverse reactions than is being reported, particularly with Pfizer.
Patients with cardiac conditions like atrial fibrillation are unable to get exemptions, one almost died after his first jab.

Source? Do you have any verifiable evidence for this claim or is it purely anecdotal?

 

[Shooter#17]

Source? Do you have any verifiable evidence for this claim or is it purely anecdotal?

Lol source is directly from a gp, no I am not naming the source.

 

[Nikita Blue]

Sam Docherty, recovering from cancer treatment, is exactly the kind of person who is at added risk because of their impacted immune system.

And yet, someone at Carlton is more self obsessed in their own vaccine fears, because they've read some memes on Facebook.

Pathetic.

 

[Forward Press]

Lol source is directly from a gp, no I am not naming the source.

My source - a doctor - thinks people have too lax of an attitude to COVID in WA and that 'vaccine hesitancy' is a politically correct term for antivax morons. She also thinks that the concern with blood clots with AZ was overblown and that the extremely rare instances of myocarditis associated with Pfizer are easily treatable and in no way a justifiable reason to not have the Pfizer vaccine.

So - beat that.

 

[carlton_99]

My source - a doctor - thinks people have too lax of an attitude to COVID in WA and that 'vaccine hesitancy' is a politically correct term for antivax morons. She also thinks that the concern with blood clots with AZ was overblown and that the extremely rare instances of myocarditis associated with Pfizer are easily treatable and in no way a justifiable reason to not have the Pfizer vaccine.

So - beat that.

TGA has all the data relating to blood clots and myocarditis in their weekly vaccine safety updates. As of the 4th of Nov 2021 there have been a total of 253 myocarditis cases from 21.9 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine and 158 cases of TTS from 13.1 million doses of AZ.

 

[Forward Press]

TGA has all the data relating to blood clots and myocarditis in their weekly vaccine safety updates. As of the 4th of Nov 2021 there have been a total of 253 myocarditis cases from 21.9 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine and 158 cases of TTS from 13.1 million doses of AZ.

Surprised TTS was so low. Doctor also added that blood clots is such a general term but in any event most are treatable and that although obviously deaths are unfortunate, the benefit of being vaccinated with AZ far outweighed the adverse effects. In any event, Pfizer has proven to be incredibly safe and effective and every day she still struggles to understand how people with a brain and you'd assume some level of critical thinking choose to not vaccinate.

 

[bing181]

... one almost died after his first jab.

Confirmation bias on steroids.

(Ignores the billions of people who didn't "almost die" (whatever that means) after their first jab.)

 

[carlton_99]

Surprised TTS was so low. Doctor also added that blood clots is such a general term but in any event most are treatable and that although obviously deaths are unfortunate, the benefit of being vaccinated with AZ far outweighed the adverse effects. In any event, Pfizer has proven to be incredibly safe and effective and every day she still struggles to understand how people with a brain and you'd assume some level of critical thinking choose to not vaccinate.

Yes there have been 9 deaths all linked to AZ so obviously it is a possibility but incredibly rare. However, adverse reactions and deaths can happen from any medical intervention whether it be a vaccine, surgery, medicine. Its like you said, the benefits of the vaccine far outweigh the negatives on a broad scale.

 

[The 747]

Against mandating it. There are a lot more adverse reactions than is being reported, particularly with Pfizer.
Patients with cardiac conditions like atrial fibrillation are unable to get exemptions, one almost died after his first jab.

So your clients are defying the gag/suppression order and risking their jobs just to get the important information to you, so you can post it on Bigfooty.

 

[Shooter#17]

So your clients are defying the gag/suppression order and risking their jobs just to get the important information to you, so you can post it on Bigfooty.

Not all have confidentiality orders, most gps wouldn't. They all have liability exemptions from anything going wrong with the jab though.

 

[WillHayward]

Defender Liam Jones named as Blues player hesitant to receive Covid-19 vaccination, reports say

Unvaccinated Blues defender’s AFL career in question, reports say

www.foxsports.com.au

Why is this still in the rumours and scandals board mods??

It's not a rumour. It's not a scandal.

It's a simple fact.

Move to main board please

 

[Mr Kitch]

So your clients are defying the gag/suppression order and risking their jobs just to get the important information to you, so you can post it on Bigfooty.

Maybe they took the hypocritical oath!

 

[WillHayward]

Lol there's been 1600 deaths in Australia with an average age of 86. Keep drinking up the propaganda fool

Hang on a minute.
You and a small number of people on Facebook have access to the "actual" data but the entire scientific and medical community and everybody who works in the entire hospital and health system are all in a gigantic propaganda campaign?

Shit dude. Lucky we have heros like you and Ur FB mates to save the world .

Do you wear a cape to bed? You should.

 

[radiojake]

Lol there's been 1600 deaths in Australia with an average age of 86. Keep drinking up the propaganda fool

You know that number is low because of lockdowns, yeah?

Peanut

 

[WillHayward]

Against mandating it. There are a lot more adverse reactions than is being reported, particularly with Pfizer.
Patients with cardiac conditions like atrial fibrillation are unable to get exemptions, one almost died after his first jab.

Lol.
Seriously.

One person "almost" died. What does that mean exactly?
One person. Listen to this nonsense.

Are U saying the entire medical fraternity are all such cowards they are participating in a mass cover up just to please pfizer?

Also tell us exactly what type and what level you so called "mates" are.

I'm Calling bullshit.

 

[WillHayward]

Would the mods be able to change the title to Liam Jones refusing vaccination?

Agree.
Also should be on the main board.

It's not a rumour and not a scandal.

It's a fact.

 

[IKnowtheDog]

Has Jones provided an explanation on why he isn’t taking the vaccine?

 

[WillHayward]

Im referring to my client base not Deni as a medical specialist however she works in the medical profession and would know a lot of specialists.
We run an accounting firm specialising in medicos so yeah I speak to a lot of them also and most are against mandating the vaccination through coercion.

So your mate has a patent on the term smokescreen, good to know.
No mate I I don't believe in lizard people, I also don't think the earth is flat and have my vaccinations upto date bar the COVID scam.
I however don't trust governments, anyone that does does so at their own peril.

So it's second hand hearsay now?

You know one nurse who may "know" some "specialists".

Mate you have no ****ing idea what ur talking about.

And an ICU nurse would know absolutely nothing about how vaccines work. Nor would she have access to any relevant data at all. Like none.

 

[WillHayward]

So all the medical specialists are too scared to speak the truth because of a "gag order" (which isn't even a thing).

But our brave warrior suburban accountant is here to break it all down on BigFooty with his source "deep throat". A ****ing nurse.

And let me guess.
Every single professional journo in the country is also subject to this "gag order" (which isn't even a thing).

But our intrepid and brave suburban accountant on BigFooty is going to bring the entire cabal down!

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I could have sworn I once caught a nasty case of Datsun poisoning.

Rust infection is real.

 

[flashmanvc]

This is just embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for him. Liam Jones

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you absolute plonker.

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[lids2richo]

Just a plain selfish act. You don't just do it to protect yourself. You do it to protect your inmuno-compromised mate, your folks, your grandparents.

I've been working in the covid ICU and it's true, people literally ask for the vaccine when they realise how ****ed up it's making them. It's sad when a girl in her 30's is ICU because she's refused to get the vaccine despite her family begging her to, but she doesn't probably because she's delved too deep into some stupid conspiracy youtube loophole.

The fact his own captain is immuno-compromised and he still refuses it... I hope he comes to his senses.

 

[sherb]

Indeed extremely overblown. I posted in another thread that you're about 1000 times more likely to die from testicular cancer than the az vaccine.

And that is just the women.

 

[carlton_99]

Pretty sure I wrote that in there. Something similar anyhow. The other 633 were just coincidences, nothing to see here When does the footy start again?

Something being reported to the TGA for investigation is not a death linked the vaccine. If someone dies after a vaccine it doesnt just mean we dont investigate it and assume its from the vaccine. Based on this the TGA have run the investigation and found 9 linked to the vaccine. In a perfect world it would be 0 but every medical intervention has a risk of death, whether it be vaccine, medicine, surgery etc

 

[hoianbulldog]

So all the medical specialists are too scared to speak the truth because of a "gag order" (which isn't even a thing).

But our brave warrior suburban accountant is here to break it all down on BigFooty with his source "deep throat". A ******* nurse.

And let me guess.
Every single professional journo in the country is also subject to this "gag order" (which isn't even a thing).

But our intrepid and brave suburban accountant on BigFooty is going to bring the entire cabal down!

He isn't an accountant is he? I thought he said he worked for an IT company providing accounting software.