Central Highlands

[learmonth]

Has it been confirmed whether Reid is coaching Bungaree or not?

Reis has signed, may be in the paper tomorrow, or maybe wait, until he has definantly signed up a few of his Redan mates....

 

[helmut]

Slow down mate, we are all friends here having a discussion about the league.
No I have nothing to do with Ballan, but know a lot of people tied to it. I didn't say their big name players were'nt good players, but for the amount of money the dished out, they didn't get the return for them they probably should've. All I am saying is with the talent they had on show in there side that you have just mentioned the club was very dissapointing not to make the finals.

As for the charges, if it is not something that is known then it is not up to me to be spreading stories across on an internet forum.

I wasnt saying that Ballan arn't a talented side or are in trouble or anything like that. I was simply saying that they didnt see the value for the money they paid in the league ladder and there is some internal issues that the club need to resolve before they move on.

Oh, did you know the president quit as well because he wasnt happy with some things within the club?

You said the big name players didn't stand out, which is wrong. Of course it's dissappointing for any club to miss finals, but you are putting the blame at the wrong players. And you don't know money was dished out and to who.

You are right that the president quit. He told the committee that he didn't have the time to put in to take it on again, but would remain on the committee.

 

[helmut]

I can support u there Tud34, Barry Sims, isnt a man that likes to dish out too many $$$ and I believe that would be the reason. He believes in loyality and has great values! As for the players being paid big $$$ good luck for them, but as a club, u would want a better finish then falling 10 points shy of making the finals. No use spending massive $$$ if ya not going to be a realistic chance. Ballan will always struggle on the BIG grounds, but are exceptionally ahrd to beat at home...

If you want to talk about massive $$$ learmonth, why not talk about the $25k that you're on for coaching, about $25k more than Ballan's coach got. You'll deny it, but I was told by a mate of yours.

 

[Duck Hunter]

AJ is a very good coach but 25K seems like a fair bit of money to me and would be surprised if that was the correct figure.
I would be interested to hear the figures some of the other coaches get?
Robertson?
Tranquilli?
Skontra?
Daylesford new coach?
Handley?
Gladman?
Gilbert?
C'mon boys let the rumours begin!

 

[learmonth]

AJ is a very good coach but 25K seems like a fair bit of money to me and would be surprised if that was the correct figure.
I would be interested to hear the figures some of the other coaches get?
Robertson?
Tranquilli?
Skontra?
Daylesford new coach?
Handley?
Gladman?
Gilbert?
C'mon boys let the rumours begin!

For starters, Aj is on no where near 25K, most of the money goes into his players, as a coach is only as good as the cattle he has on the park.
Robertson- Heard 30K (Not bad for a non playing coach)
Dford -No more then 10k
Gladman- Heard he was on 14K but ended up getting another 4k this season to total 18K- Not bad for a coach that seems to coach every side to the bottom???? Heard he is going back to Creswick this season>>>

As for all teh others, I have no idea, but would suggest b/t 8K & 16K

 

[Pelican23]

For starters, Aj is on no where near 25K, most of the money goes into his players, as a coach is only as good as the cattle he has on the park.
Robertson- Heard 30K (Not bad for a non playing coach)
Dford -No more then 10k
Gladman- Heard he was on 14K but ended up getting another 4k this season to total 18K- Not bad for a coach that seems to coach every side to the bottom???? Heard he is going back to Creswick this season>>>

As for all teh others, I have no idea, but would suggest b/t 8K & 16K

Beacham has always been a money man, he be clearing 20k a year to coach, with the majority spent on his hair and spray tan.

interesting to note Gladman coached thw wickers to last in 2003/4 and Gordon to last in 05/06. His results speak for themselve so earned every penny of the 18k.

Waubra preseason starts in 2 weeks - Skontra not mucking around in his title defence. Also must start early because of the size Fridge Brown will be in a months time.

Chop Oliver apparantly spending hours in the gym - has incresed his benchpress limit from and empty bottle of fanta to a footlong sub.

 

[Uncle CC]

I heard from a reliable source last night that Luke Nunn is heading back to Redan this year and that he said he wouldn't play CHFL for less than $800 a game. He will only play at Learmonth if he is offered the coaching role.

 

[Riff Raff]

I heard from a reliable source last night that Luke Nunn is heading back to Redan this year and that he said he wouldn't play CHFL for less than $800 a game. He will only play at Learmonth if he is offered the coaching role.

What was he on last year?

 

[helmut]

For starters, Aj is on no where near 25K, most of the money goes into his players, as a coach is only as good as the cattle he has on the park.
Robertson- Heard 30K (Not bad for a non playing coach)
Dford -No more then 10k
Gladman- Heard he was on 14K but ended up getting another 4k this season to total 18K- Not bad for a coach that seems to coach every side to the bottom???? Heard he is going back to Creswick this season>>>

As for all teh others, I have no idea, but would suggest b/t 8K & 16K

How much longer are you going to persist with talking about yourself in the third person? Your mate was adamant about the 25.

 

[Freak Dodgeball Accident]

But that is of no worries to beach, he learnt his trade at dayleford, so it is anything goes for him

Speaking of, this week I was shown the latest video doing the rounds on mobile phones. It's simply titled The Lyndall. Features AJ himself, as well as a decent looking older chick who I hear is on the Daylesford committee.

Seems he doesn't just leave his coaching persona on the field - from the little audio that I could hear, he was ordering her around as if she was one of the guys out on the track. It doesn't show Beachams face, although I think I could make out a grainy silhouette of a guy sporting a visor.

I'm not having a dig though. I've seen her in real life and she's not a bad catch in my opinion. Nice work.

 

[StNik]

You said the big name players didn't stand out, which is wrong. Of course it's dissappointing for any club to miss finals, but you are putting the blame at the wrong players. And you don't know money was dished out and to who.

You are right that the president quit. He told the committee that he didn't have the time to put in to take it on again, but would remain on the committee.

So Helmut what players are you blaming if any???

 

[helmut]

So Helmut what players are you blaming if any???

Nobody, just had about the 6th best list in the league. People forget it's still a pretty young list.

 

[NCFL]

If Learmonth is AJ what does it matter. Part of this site is not knowing thats the good bit! If it is well done AJ. You are quite tollerant of all the shight you cop. Heard AJ talk in some of the finals and was impressed. Known of his and Tims history in other sports in their younger days and they seem to have matured as blokes and doing well for themselves. All this talk of money is starting to piss me off. I coached another sport at state senior level and did not recieve anywhere near some of the money you blokes talk . Whatever happened to doing it for the love of the game and the rewards you recieve when you see the cup held aloft. Am I just being a ****er?

 

[Uncle CC]

All this talk of money is starting to piss me off. I coached another sport at state senior level and did not recieve anywhere near some of the money you blokes talk . Whatever happened to doing it for the love of the game and the rewards you recieve when you see the cup held aloft. Am I just being a ****er?

Agreed. It would be good if they could have a celery cap that was enforceable. Players getting paid in excess of $400 for just playing is ridiculous. In my opinion, you would have to either be a mercenary to accept that amount of coin or be arrogant to think that you actually deserve that amount of coin for playing sport at this level. I can't think of any current players in CHFL that are worth more than $400 a game.

Spot on about the money not being there in other sports. You could be in the top 10 in the country in other sports and still have to pay to compete!

 

[Freak Dodgeball Accident]

Agreed. It would be good if they could have a celery cap that was enforceable.

I think you mean salary cap, CC.

 

[Uncle CC]

I think you mean salary cap, CC.

Last time I checked, this was a footy forum...not a ****ing spelling bee.

 

[Harry HP]

I think you mean salary cap, CC.

Yeah cc you *******

 

[helmut]

Last time I checked, this was a footy forum...not a ****ing spelling bee.

Come on CC you have to admit it is pretty funny

On salary caps, why not look at the points system being used in some other leagues.

 

[StNik]

Has anyone got any news on whats happening with the teams player wise from the bottom half of the ladder from 06?
all I have heard lately is how the top half are getting stronger!!!
I would hate to think the CHFL could turn into something like the BFL!!!

 

[carntheroos4eva]

Has anyone got any news on whats happening with the teams player wise from the bottom half of the ladder from 06?
all I have heard lately is how the top half are getting stronger!!!
I would hate to think the CHFL could turn into something like the BFL!!!

The Courier's website mate has got something in there. There was a huge wrap up in there for you.

 

[the_pill]

dont worry, it wont

 

[Uncle CC]

Come on CC you have to admit it is pretty funny

On salary caps, why not look at the points system being used in some other leagues.

Yeah don't get me wrong mate. I laughed my arse of when I saw what dodgeball posted.

Tell me more about this points system?

 

[helmut]

Yeah don't get me wrong mate. I laughed my arse of when I saw what dodgeball posted.

Tell me more about this points system?

There is a thread on here about CELERY caps, (sorry mate, I fought the urge but couldn't resist) where there is a fair bit of discussion about it. There are a few leagues around where it is currently enforced with a few different formats. Basically works by allocating each player on a clubs list a certain number of points and setting a maximum total of points that the 21/22 selected can total. Think the totals vary from league to league from as little as 20 and up to 40 in others. Depending on the total used, players already on your list get a 0 or a 1, blokes recruited from AFL get 5, ex VFL 4, players switching clubs within same league get a 4 or 5, Major league to minor league get 4 or 3 etc. Each year a player spends at a club he gets discounted a point and playing coaches get less points allocated as well.
It's pretty involved and I probably havn't explained it very well, but I reckon it has some merit. Salary caps are impossible to enforce but there is no getting around this system because once you play footy you have a rego number so you're easily trackable. It is worth a try I reckon.

 

[learmonth]

There is a thread on here about CELERY caps, (sorry mate, I fought the urge but couldn't resist) where there is a fair bit of discussion about it. There are a few leagues around where it is currently enforced with a few different formats. Basically works by allocating each player on a clubs list a certain number of points and setting a maximum total of points that the 21/22 selected can total. Think the totals vary from league to league from as little as 20 and up to 40 in others. Depending on the total used, players already on your list get a 0 or a 1, blokes recruited from AFL get 5, ex VFL 4, players switching clubs within same league get a 4 or 5, Major league to minor league get 4 or 3 etc. Each year a player spends at a club he gets discounted a point and playing coaches get less points allocated as well.
It's pretty involved and I probably havn't explained it very well, but I reckon it has some merit. Salary caps are impossible to enforce but there is no getting around this system because once you play footy you have a rego number so you're easily trackable. It is worth a try I reckon.

Well explained Helmut, thats exactly how it operates, and if it was enforced, then you would see a lot more even competition (Very similar to why the AFL introduced the draft). It would see clubs not having to fork out huge $$$ and players being a bit more loyal. Salary caps are impossible to control, due to the costs of the league, and this system, should be looked at strongly by the CHFL.
Heard simon Crowe has retired for good from Buninyong. His Back has finally given way!

 

[Grimmett]

The points system as used in some other leagues also factors in that smaller clubs are allowed a larger points cap as a rule. So teams based in major centres are not given as much leeway as teams in small rural townships.
I know this is not such a factor in the CHFL but it is another component of the system that may be factored in.