Politics Centrelink

[Ghost Patrol]

Timing was perfect. Mutual obligations were restored at midnight, at exactly the same time the new reporting period started for me.

Lesson learnt - always wait till the last day of reporting to enter your job applications.

lol that's 3 in a row

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I was meant to have appt with JSP today. They just rang, I told them I didn't think they would be open.

She said they were essential workers.

 

[yodellinhank]

I was meant to have appt with JSP today. They just rang, I told them I didn't think they would be open.

She said they were essential workers.

Don't they Zoom that kind of thing?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Don't they Zoom that kind of thing?

No. Face to face, or by phone during lockdowns.

They are office workers that could/should work from home during a lockdown.

 

[eddiesmith]

So Centrelink complain anytime you go into the office because you can do everything online, yet you cannot report your employment income online if you've worked too many hours...I'm not getting paid either way so it doesn't bother me if it's late, but it's pretty stupid system.

There isn't a Centrelink office that I can attend during the day anyway as we don't have one where I work and I sure as shit don't have enough time to sit on the phone, I guess I'll wait for them to call me?

 

[Chief]

encourage people to get work instead

hehehe

Sure it is.

 

[Kram]

hehehe

Sure it is.

Of course it is, making it as irritating as possible is part of any governments MO to make people desperate enough to find any work instead. Along the lines of work might be shit but it's less annoying and stressful that dealing with CL and these agencies they have as well these days.

 

[DaRick]

Given that we're apparently plunging face-first into another recession, it looks like there'll be a lot more 'bludgers' around.

Bloody bludgers. If only we could put all the bludgers into a room, and then blow the room up!

Then the world would be a better place. The sun would be shining that bit more brightly, the birds would be singing that little bit louder, the sky would be that little bit bluer, ScoMo would be that little bit less cringeworthy to look at...

 

[Over The Post]

 

[Over The Post]

Unfortunately when decency, common sense and basic humanity come up against neoliberal ideology, guess where our politicians' loyalty lies.

Wendy hadn't bought new glasses in almost 10 years. It's the kind of reason why most Australians back a basic income

While the COVID pandemic has been an economic and social disaster of unimaginable proportions, for well over a million Australians struggling to survive on welfare payments it briefly opened a window to a better world for them, one with a universal basic income.

www.abc.net.au

 

[NSWCROW]

Thanks for the heads-up that job search is now DUE even though they'd said NO MUTUAL OBLIGATIONS UNTIL OCT 15TH

Sly

Check your jobactive dashboards

 

[Over The Post]

This is why I have never used the jobactive system. It's hard enough keeping on top of the JSP.

 

[Over The Post]

Woman who can black out at any time deemed able to work 30 hours a week

'Ronnie' suffers from a rare condition that renders her bedridden and unable to even send a text message. But that wasn't enough to make her eligible for the Disability Support Pension.

www.abc.net.au

vs

Navigating the cashless welfare card system is hard for these medical students. They can't imagine how other people manage

The system places all welfare recipients in an area onto the card — including medicine students on regional placements.

www.abc.net.au

Sure, we'll find a spare $30M lying around to create more opportunities for our mates to leech from the system.

 

[Gough]

For some reason Scott's government has decided that the norms and rules applied to every government since Federation don't apply to him and his government.

‘Not above the law’: warning for Australia’s Department of Social Services over threat to ignore tribunal

Appeals tribunal judgment criticises ‘poor conduct’, saying department argued it would ignore order for Centrelink to reinstate man’s jobseeker payments

www.theguardian.com

 

[Chief]

Jesus.

I don't know about everyone else's experience, but if you have a tax issue or a data issue, the message you get from the department concerned is "we want to sort this out so you keep going". They get the stick out if you try to dodge them from there on. If you're a SME, you fix things up (with a hefty interest rate). If you're a really big business you can hold a protracted legal fight over their head and negotiate your bill downwards.

If you're a recipient of welfare, they seem to want you to burn slowly to the sound of their cheering voices.

 

[Over The Post]

... and the amount involved, which Centrelink was disputing because they wanted to do asset testing, totalled around $15k.

But it's his fault, because if he was a prayerful man, our kind and just god of prosperity would have showered him in riches and he wouldn't be needing the dole.

 

[NSWCROW]

And we're back to " absolute ******s making decisions " level.

Oh well it was a nice 18 months while it lasted.


11 days until " Jobsearch " is due but just get a text saying obligations have been brought FORWARD to the 13th





So why is jobsearch due AFTER obligations return ???
What am i missing ?

 

[Crusey]

Same here

Full Jobsearch for October due 1/11 but locked down until at least 22/10

Cant make this stuff up !

 

[Over The Post]

When Carol was made redundant she thought finding another job would be easy. She was in for a 'rude shock'

While employers complain about staff shortages, a new report finds there is still a severe shortage of entry-level jobs, leaving hundreds of thousands of people as long-term unemployed.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Over The Post]

 

[CM86]

Hey @Lack of Kwality if more net money is going to private profit-driven industry, than is going to Australians begging for a safety net... do you personally support or disapprove of it?

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Personally i've taken a total of $150 from an ATM in the last 2 years.

Is it a bad idea or poorly executed? ( this government and poorly executed goes hand in hand ).

Im not opposed to some arseh*le on welfare being forced not to spend most of it on booze and gambling. Its disingenuous to suggest that that never happens.
So yes , some people do need someone to tell them how to spend their money.
Its welfare not " &%$* the kids im getting pissed."

 

[FredLeDeux]

Personally i've taken a total of $150 from an ATM in the last 2 years.

Is it a bad idea or poorly executed? ( this government and poorly executed goes hand in hand ).

Im not opposed to some a-hole on welfare being forced not to spend most of it on booze and gambling. Its disingenuous to suggest that that never happens.
So yes , some people do need someone to tell them how to spend their money.
Its welfare not " &%$* the kids im getting pissed."

https://independentaustralia.net/po...din-helloworld-and-other-chumgate-scams,12402

Indue
The Indue cashless welfare card is another nice little earner. The intent of the card (essentially a debit card) is to control how welfare payments can be spent. For instance, an Indue card cannot be used to buy alcohol. The company that administers the card, Indue Pty Ltd is a corporation owned by Liberal and National Party members that in turn donates to the Liberal and National parties.

Indue charges the Government $12,000 per card to administer. Yes, you read that correctly — $12,000. That’s taxpayers’ money (our money) going to a cabal of former Liberal and National MPs, who also then donate a portion back to their respective parties. That’s taxpayers’ money going straight back to the Party and the Indue shareholder skimming their own cut off the top.

But wait, there’s more! In remote areas, there are often very few stores where cardholders can spend their welfare money. In some remote mining communities, the only stores that will accept the Indue card are owned by the mining companies themselves — often Liberal Party donors. They can hike prices up and syphon off the taxpayers’ funds every time a purchase is made. It’s the old company store trick, revamped for the digital age.

 

[Over The Post]

It's not the getting cash from an ATM that's the issue. The issue is being restricted to a limited set of retailers and service providers who can accept the card.

Google is your friend, as is the search function here. Stories abound, such as people in remote areas having to travel 150km to fill their car, because the only petrol pump in town is at the only shop in town which can't get authorisation to accept the card because they also sell beer. Can't buy clothes/shoes locally and can't use the card to buy online.

 

[NSWCROW]

Personally i've taken a total of $150 from an ATM in the last 2 years.

Is it a bad idea or poorly executed? ( this government and poorly executed goes hand in hand ).

Im not opposed to some a-hole on welfare being forced not to spend most of it on booze and gambling. Its disingenuous to suggest that that never happens.
So yes , some people do need someone to tell them how to spend their money.
Its welfare not " &%$* the kids im getting pissed."

The theory is sound.


But with the way this shit govt awards contracts or handles any criticism ??.......
Not on your life