Rothams inclusion is baffling purely because I can't remember the last time he played well. Sydney do have a tall forward line but I do think us trying to turn him into a tall defender is whats ruined him. He is a liability when he's matched up to a tall forward. His match up is most likely Logan Mcdonald but Mcdonald actually coming off a 10 contested mark game in the VFL. I can see Simmo already dropping dixon into defence to plug holes
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A world where he DESERVES to keep his place in the side after being our best midfielder in our last game? Standing up in a close 4th quarter and helping to get the team over the line against the odds over a highly fancied opponent? Everyone is up and about this week due to that win and that performance.
This could've done wonders for his confidence. The MC had the opportunity here to give a shot to a player who literally did all he could do last week. Had the opportunity to show the rest of the playing group, regardless of who you are, if you put in effort like that we WILL play you and reward you for it. Because that is what our fans expect, and that is what we as a professional organization is trying to build with sustained success and more shots at a flag.
He's earned it. Simple as that. Take reputation out of it. Take history out of it. Instead, he is dropped at the expense of reputation. It's disappointing.
If you're asking me who the better player is and who i want in this team long term the answer is Kelly every day of the week. But you need to reward these kids performance when it's there. Absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever with Kelly proving his fitness and getting some touch in the WAFL for one week.
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Can see us easily running out of legs in the 2nd half of every quarter
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If anyone is perplexed about West being omitted, it is because of an injury rather than being dropped. He has a slight niggle.
I have it on pretty good authority that the MC love having him in the team and would have kept him in if they could have.
That being said, if this week’s inclusions do fire like we know they can, when West is 100% fit again, I wonder who he would replace?
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I have it on pretty good authority that the MC love having him in the team and would have kept him in if they could have.
That being said, if this week’s inclusions do fire like we know they can, when West is 100% fit again, I wonder who he would replace?
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Sydney play 2 talls _ Franklin/Login and Reid. Why do we need Rotham? Oh and if you have not noticed, Rotham is tall but can’t defend a tall
That post basically says he's a shit tall.
Swans have Mclean, Logan and Reid this week. all three are massive lads so they have a genuine mismatch
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With Ryan,Rioli, Jones and Cripps in the side - what role does Langdon play?
Surely O’Neill would provide much needed midfield depth given 3 of the boys are likely underdone
Surely O’Neill would provide much needed midfield depth given 3 of the boys are likely underdone
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If you aren't picking your best 22 whats the point, its just disrespect to the other 21 guys who have done the work and want to try and win.
we paid how much for Kelly just so he can 'get his touch' in the wafl?
all for doing "wonders" for XONS confidence? signing him until 2023, on the back of not a great body of form, is enough for mine.
Well a half done Kelly, Yeo Shuey is not worth a fully fit XON based off that last game only.
West game on the other hand was overrated. 16 possession as a full time mid isn't really that amazing. XON game was very very good 24 possession as a full time mid is what you expect but to do that as a young mid is terrific and shows his place
I just don't understand why one of shuey/kelly/Yeo couldn't step aside for just ONE week so XON could get rewarded with a follow up game. We know one of them would have knocked the door down and earned that spot back. it was just ONE WEEK. Real crooked if you ask me.
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Cripps is his mate. That’s been obvious for years.
I can’t see your last point. With Foley there are already 7 defenders in this team excluding Nelson. Nelson appears to have been selected as a potential tagger. On talent alone, Nelson is easily dropped but perhaps he is useful to do some of the dirty, negative, sacrificial roles. I thought Nelson had one of his better games for the club last week as did a number of other players.
Langdon and Jones are two others skating on thin ice. Langdon is one of the least talented players but he offers a lot of grunt and energy. Once that goes down he’ll be out because there are more talented players waiting on the sidelines. Jones seemed to have played a breakout game in round 1 but since then his contribution has decreased drastically.
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Let’s say Kelly is on $850,000 per year and O’Neill is on $150,000 per year. You don’t put your stud cattle in the back paddock.
Until last week most people including myself thought O’Neill was a lost cause but he did play a very good game against Collingwood and I was surprised to see him dropped. I would have dropped others before him, I can only think that the MC have picked the right group that they think can win. It wouldn’t have been easy, I think SPS is a pretty good player and would have liked to see him picked, but perhaps that was going to be too many changes, there were a lot as it was.
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Good point. I was thinking of Langdon as a half forward given his performance last week, but he actually plays a lot of wing. Makes sense that he goes out for Gaff.
An even more curly one is who gets dropped for Sheed?
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I just like seeing effort and form rewarded 
I'm not even an XON fan but the kid deserved another go, it was the least the MC could do for him.
You pick the team that has earned their spot in the side with recent form. Not earned it last year, not earned it while they played at Geelong, or when they were All Australian, but actual recent form. You do this every week. Everyone should be treated the same at the footy club, regardless of status or reputation. This whole "keep the leaders out of the WAFL because it looks bad" little thing we've got going on should be dismissed.
If you have some down games, you get out and an opportunity should be given to the best performing depth in that area. It might be a baffling idea to Simmo, but it's quite simple and something other AFL clubs do without fuss each week. Kelly has played once in 4 weeks, gathered 18 possessions, had 8 clangers and faded badly in that game, then got injured. He hasn't played since. How that is instantly preferred to XON's huge 24 disposal effort last week makes me scratch my head.
Giving XON another crack and have Kelly return after a WAFL run around would've meant more to fans (not all, but many) than what they've done. Ah well.
I'm not even an XON fan but the kid deserved another go, it was the least the MC could do for him.You pick the team that has earned their spot in the side with recent form. Not earned it last year, not earned it while they played at Geelong, or when they were All Australian, but actual recent form. You do this every week. Everyone should be treated the same at the footy club, regardless of status or reputation. This whole "keep the leaders out of the WAFL because it looks bad" little thing we've got going on should be dismissed.
If you have some down games, you get out and an opportunity should be given to the best performing depth in that area. It might be a baffling idea to Simmo, but it's quite simple and something other AFL clubs do without fuss each week. Kelly has played once in 4 weeks, gathered 18 possessions, had 8 clangers and faded badly in that game, then got injured. He hasn't played since. How that is instantly preferred to XON's huge 24 disposal effort last week makes me scratch my head.
Giving XON another crack and have Kelly return after a WAFL run around would've meant more to fans (not all, but many) than what they've done. Ah well.
So, what if XON gets 11 possessions vs Sydney and we lose and Kelly gets 30+ and a couple of goals in the WAFL? This is a far more likely scenario than the opposite, which is why Kelly plays seniors and XON goes back to WAFL.I just like seeing effort and form rewarded
You pick the team that has earned their spot in the side with recent form. Not earned it last year, not earned it while they played at Geelong, or when they were All Australian, but actual recent form. You do this every week. Everyone should be treated the same at the footy club, regardless of status or reputation. This whole "keep the leaders out of the WAFL because it looks bad" little thing we've got going on should be dismissed.
If you have some down games, you get out and an opportunity should be given to the best performing depth in that area. It might be a baffling idea to Simmo, but it's quite simple and something other AFL clubs do without fuss each week. Kelly has played once in 4 weeks, gathered 18 possessions, had 8 clangers and faded badly in that game, then got injured. He hasn't played since. How that is instantly preferred to XON's huge 24 disposal effort last week makes me scratch my head.
Giving XON another crack and have Kelly return after a WAFL run around would've meant more to fans (not all, but many) than what they've done. Ah well.
This is why Kelly plays and XON missed. Hopefully XON can build up a body of form to put pressure on, because he hasn't to date.
I think you could have fit three guns and xon in the team. That said it probably means Jones gets the flick and a TK and Shuey spending a bit of time up forward. Jones was bang average last week but his form recently would have made him unlucky
Exactly, Jones it seems has built up a bit a few credits of his own but that's ok as we all like Jones.
Similarly Langdon and Naish have been rewarded for showing form. I can see both sides of this very tedious argument and XON is a bit stiff.
Regardless, I would like to see our guns fire as a unit. Hopefully they're fit and have something to prove.
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Then Kelly would have earned his spot back in the team and XON would be a candidate to be dropped. That's it. Worlds won't collide if that happens.
I don't care if we lose, i care about playing players that deserve it.
At least that happening would be good. It'd be a good hard honest bit of work from Kelly, to show that he's ready to take his place in the seniors again.
What if XON backs up his good game with another solid outing? Anyone ever consider that happening? What if he builds on his career best game from last week because the MC isn't so small peen'd and actually backs him in over someone with more runs on the board?
He can never build this "form line" of yours if he doesn't actually get an opportunity due to credits and losing his spot when he shouldn't.
Kelly's last game: 18 disposals at 44%DE, 8 clangers, 8 turnovers, 5 clearances, 0 score involvements, 338 metres gained, 61 ranking points from 82% TOG.
XON: 24 disposals at 66%DE, 2 clangers, 3 turnovers, 5 clearances, 5 score involvements. 298 metres gained, 87 ranking points from. 71% TOG.
You're kind of making the opposing point with those stats.
One outlier from Xon, his best game by a fair way, is better, but not outrageously better, than Kelly's worst game for a while.
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Apart from credits in the bank it shows a lack of flexibility and thinking outside of the square..
O’neills game should have been enough to keep him in the week and have a role in ball.. ok leave cripps out and rotate a kelly and shuey through the high half forward/ mid role to get fitness and spend less time on ball.
Have yeo rotate of off half back or even out of ff.. Langdon who had a low ceiling could have made way.
You look at the bench and we have no on ballers even there so we will have under done blokes trying to play on limited minutes against a hard running midfield with no decent back up to replace them.. What could possibly go wrong?
O’neills game should have been enough to keep him in the week and have a role in ball.. ok leave cripps out and rotate a kelly and shuey through the high half forward/ mid role to get fitness and spend less time on ball.
Have yeo rotate of off half back or even out of ff.. Langdon who had a low ceiling could have made way.
You look at the bench and we have no on ballers even there so we will have under done blokes trying to play on limited minutes against a hard running midfield with no decent back up to replace them.. What could possibly go wrong?
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O'Neill aside, it'll be interesting to see how Hough goes back in the WAFL. I don't mind giving the lad a rest, but hope he goes "get ****ed, I know I'm too good for this now," wrecks everyone and demands his spot back.
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The thing with O'Neill is that apart from rewarding a good game with selection the following week, how's he even supposed to develop into a good AFL midfielder without getting a consistent run at it? In the last decade we are probably one of the worst sides in the league at developing young midfielders and this is a big part of the reason, they're always in and out of the side week to week instead of getting a good block of games in a row to work things out.
Sure bring the big 3 midfielders back this week if you really want to (although I think Yeo at least should have to run out a full WAFL game before he gets back into the main team) but anyone pretending O'Neill couldn't have taken Cripp's spot is talking shit.
We've got more small forwards in the team than ever, we don't need Cripps to play and he's one that absolutely needs to get a game or two in the WAFL to get some touch back.
Sure bring the big 3 midfielders back this week if you really want to (although I think Yeo at least should have to run out a full WAFL game before he gets back into the main team) but anyone pretending O'Neill couldn't have taken Cripp's spot is talking shit.
We've got more small forwards in the team than ever, we don't need Cripps to play and he's one that absolutely needs to get a game or two in the WAFL to get some touch back.
And you can put your house on the fact that if we lose by a kick, and Xon had a shocker with Kelly tearing it up at the WAFL, everyoneI just like seeing effort and form rewarded
You pick the team that has earned their spot in the side with recent form. Not earned it last year, not earned it while they played at Geelong, or when they were All Australian, but actual recent form. You do this every week. Everyone should be treated the same at the footy club, regardless of status or reputation. This whole "keep the leaders out of the WAFL because it looks bad" little thing we've got going on should be dismissed.
If you have some down games, you get out and an opportunity should be given to the best performing depth in that area. It might be a baffling idea to Simmo, but it's quite simple and something other AFL clubs do without fuss each week. Kelly has played once in 4 weeks, gathered 18 possessions, had 8 clangers and faded badly in that game, then got injured. He hasn't played since. How that is instantly preferred to XON's huge 24 disposal effort last week makes me scratch my head.
Giving XON another crack and have Kelly return after a WAFL run around would've meant more to fans (not all, but many) than what they've done. Ah well.
would be baying for blood.
I think XON was stiff, but the bottom line is, you play your best side.
If Steve Smith misses a few games and his replacement does pretty well, you don't leave Smith out of the side.
People thinking that players of the calibre of Kelly, Yeo and Shuey should be playing in the Magoo's when they're fit, especially when we're 1 and 3
are living in Laa Laa land. If you want to find a spot for Xon, that's fine, but he ain't playing in front of our A graders.
I'll be waiting for the outcry if one of them has a quiet game though.
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