Strategy Changes & Pre-match Discussion - Round 21 vs. Hawthorn, MCG, Sat 05/08, 4:35pm

[Chief Ten Beers]

No-one's been calling for Markov to be dropped for about a month now.

He was easily one of our best tonight.

Just Cox...he'll go back to the VFL now

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

Out: Cox, Lipinski
In: Frampton, Hill/Ginnivan

Howe is now our 3rd tall forward.

 

[CaptainHowdy87]

Just Cox...he'll go back to the VFL now

For sure. I love the big fella, but he's been in pretty poor form the last few weeks.

 

[BigVic]

In Ginni, Hill (S)
Out Lipinski, Cox

 

[Doc1763]

Out. Lipinski, Cox
In. Frampton, Hill

Not sure about Mitchell and Adams, too bad Macrae is injured.

Howe forward.

 

[Matt_352]

Out: Cox, Lipinski
In: Frampton Hill

Howe forward, Frampton takes Howes spot in defence.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

In Ginni, Hill (S)
Out Lipinski, Cox

Dunno how you can justify Ginnivan into the 22 and making Hill sub when the only reason Hill is out is through illness.

 

[swoop42]

Out:Cox
In: Frampton

Out: Hoskin-Elliott
In: Hill

Sub: Lipinski or Markov.

Howe forward.

 

[whiskeytown]

Been saying it.

Both Cox and Cameron are unnecessary. Especially now mcstay is back

The one ruck model with either mcstay or Frampton as back up allows more flexibility and more runners come game day

WHE with his 3 touches in 1.5 qtrs as sub was clearly a game changer too

Give Ginnivan, Johnson or young Harrison another go. Need the additional X factor

Edit: Hill back in

 

[gouki88]

Out:Cox
In: Frampton

Out: Hoskin-Elliott
In: Hill

Sub: Lipinski or Markov.

Howe forward.

Hoskin-Elliott out before Lipinski is madness! As is moving Markov to the sub!

 

[legendstatus]

Out Cox - Mitchell - (WHE/Lipinski/McCreery/Adams)

In AJ - Frampton -Hill

 

[Korol Mira]

We're not going to play Howe as a permanent forward. It was just a late positional change that worked because Carlton didn't expect it. Exact same thing happened with Moore a year or two ago against Brisbane or West Coast

 

[gouki88]

We're not going to play Howe as a permanent forward. It was just a late positional change that worked because Carlton didn't expect it. Exact same thing happened with Moore a year or two ago against Brisbane or West Coast

With how poor he's been as a defender, it would be negligent to not look at it. His complete lack of run and inability to effect marking contests killed us with him in the defensive half.

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

We're not going to play Howe as a permanent forward. It was just a late positional change that worked because Carlton didn't expect it. Exact same thing happened with Moore a year or two ago against Brisbane or West Coast

Yeah, its not worth looking at a 33yo who kicked 3 goals as a forward, rather than keeping him down back where game clearly gone past him back there.

 

[WogPie]

Don't panic

VFL pending

Frampton for Cox

Hill for Lipinski

WHE or Lipinski sub. Lippa on thin ice

Spot on

 

[Prexm]

We're not going to play Howe as a permanent forward. It was just a late positional change that worked because Carlton didn't expect it. Exact same thing happened with Moore a year or two ago against Brisbane or West Coast

Has to be at least tried for a few weeks. See how Frampton goes down back. Just not sure on how to solve the 2nd ruck problem

 

[anshell]

Look I hope we make some changes for next week,The performances of some players tonight was simply unacceptable.If we keep selecting the same players no matter how badly they play,then it leads to complacency,and I think we saw an example of that tonight.

 

[Aussie pie]

Coxy goes through bad patches that are very bad. His form comes and goes very quickly when he is not 1st ruck. I wouldn’t be worried if Cameron was injured and Cox was 1st ruck but at the moment neither are really doing a lot. Yes I’m a Cox fan and will always stick up for him but AJ must come in.

 

[Horaceg]

The Howe move was a surprise no one saw coming, Clubs will adapt to it and plan for it now.

He looked good up there

 

[anshell]

The Howe move was a surprise no one saw coming, Clubs will adapt to it and plan for it now.

He looked good up there

He certainly kicked well.Much better than any of our other forwards.

 

[windchimes]

The Howe move was a surprise no one saw coming, Clubs will adapt to it and plan for it now.

He looked good up there

Yes.

Not something I’d persist with though for this reason. It’s never really been his best position, and I don’t think it’ll suddenly become now. Let’s keep this one as a smash glass option- potentially handy like that I think.

 

[TradeDraft]

He certainly kicked well.Much better than any of our other forwards.

That would not been very hard Tonight

 

[Likitysplit]

Out: Cox, Lipinski,
In: Frampton, Hill

Howe forward, Frampton full back to release Moore.

If we opt to keep Howe back, then Johnson in instead of Frampton.

Agree with these changes. Frampton makes so much sense structure wise, allows Moore to peel off & intercept which sets up our slingshot running game.

Lipinski looks slow.

JDG had an almost game tonight, we need him to lift!

 

[John Greening]

Lipinski fan but enough is enough. Cox dismal again. Both of them out please.

In: Frampton, Hill

B: Brayden Maynard - Billy Frampton - Nathan Murphy
HB: Isaac Quaynor - Darcy Moore - John Noble
C: Josh Daicos - Tom Mitchell - Steele Sidebottom
HF: Beau McCreery - Brody Mihocek - Bobby Hill
F: Jamie Elliott - Dan McStay - Jeremy Howe
R: Darcy Cameron - Nick Daicos - Jordan De Goey
I: Scott Pendlebury - Jack Crisp - Oleg Markov - Will Hoskin-Elliott
Sub: Taylor Adams

Cox was on the ground for total of 39 minutes ! What can a lumbering ruckmand do in that time ? Cameron was on for 102 minutes !

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Opportunity to manage Nick Daicos. Give him a rest before a full run at the back end of the year/finals

We can manage him but putting him at half back