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Next Generation Academy Concessions

From 2021, Next Generation Academies (NGAs) - targeting Indigenous and multicultural players - will be overseen by the AFL Talent Pathway program with support from AFL Clubs. As part of this change, the AFL Commission determined that the concession model for NGAs be revised to reflect this.

The following changes to the NGA concession model ahead of the 2021 and 2022 NAB AFL Drafts will be as follows:

  • From 2021, nominated NGA prospects will only be eligible to be matched from Pick 21 in the NAB AFL Draft. All other players selected from Pick 41 onwards can be matched by their Club using their next available selection, while undrafted players are still eligible to pre-selected on the rookie list.
  • From 2022, nominated NGA prospects will only be eligible to be matched from Pick 41 onwards by their Club using their next available selection, while undrafted players are still eligible to pre-selected on the rookie list.
This model allows for elite talent to be available to all AFL Clubs while still ensuring late prospects can find their way onto an AFL list and continue their relationship with the respective Club that has been supporting them.

A summary of changes can be found in the table below:

RoundCurrent20212022
1st Round (Pick 1 – 20)20% discountNo accessNo access
2nd Round (Pick 21 – 40)197 points197 pointsNo access
3rd Round (Pick 41 - 60)197 pointsUse next available selectionUse next available selection
4th Round (Pick 61 +)197 pointsUse next available selectionUse next available selection
Rookie ListAny undrafted playerAny undrafted playerAny undrafted player

 
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Next Generation Academy Concessions

From 2021, Next Generation Academies (NGAs) - targeting Indigenous and multicultural players - will be overseen by the AFL Talent Pathway program with support from AFL Clubs. As part of this change, the AFL Commission determined that the concession model for NGAs be revised to reflect this.

The following changes to the NGA concession model ahead of the 2021 and 2022 NAB AFL Drafts will be as follows:

  • From 2021, nominated NGA prospects will only be eligible to be matched from Pick 21 in the NAB AFL Draft. All other players selected from Pick 41 onwards can be matched by their Club using their next available selection, while undrafted players are still eligible to pre-selected on the rookie list.
  • From 2022, nominated NGA prospects will only be eligible to be matched from Pick 41 onwards by their Club using their next available selection, while undrafted players are still eligible to pre-selected on the rookie list.
This model allows for elite talent to be available to all AFL Clubs while still ensuring late prospects can find their way onto an AFL list and continue their relationship with the respective Club that has been supporting them.

A summary of changes can be found in the table below:

RoundCurrent20212022
1st Round (Pick 1 – 20)20% discountNo accessNo access
2nd Round (Pick 21 – 40)197 points197 pointsNo access
3rd Round (Pick 41 - 60)197 pointsUse next available selectionUse next available selection
4th Round (Pick 61 +)197 pointsUse next available selectionUse next available selection
Rookie ListAny undrafted playerAny undrafted playerAny undrafted player

Stupid question, does this apply to the FS prospects?
 

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Will encourage more hiding away of players and have a negative effect on talent development imo
Will depend on if they tighten up the rules so you can't just get in just because your Mum was born in India or something. They need to be genuinely from non-AFL backgrounds.

In general though these kids would ordinarily have played TAC cup or the equivalent all year, bit hard to hide there.
 
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Great changes for NGA. I'd argue this should be extended to northern academies and father son, but at least it's a start.
The thing that interests me about Northern Academies is this:

55.6% of AFL Clubs are based in Victoria, while 53.2% of AFL players come from Victoria
11.1% of AFL Clubs are based in WA, while 14.7% of AFL players come from WA
11.1% of AFL Clubs are based in SA, while 13.5% of AFL players come from SA

Whereas:
11.1% of AFL Clubs are based in NSW, while 5.1% of AFL players come from NSW
11.1% of AFL Clubs are based in Queensland, while 4.5% of AFL players come from Queensland

And then you have:
3.5% of AFL players come from Tasmania
1.4% of AFL players come from NT
2.2% from Ireland.
The rest are international/cross-code recruits


You can argue the model, but there's definitely an argument there in favour of encouraging the development of northern talent (or at least in favour of sending one of the Qld teams to Tasmania and one of the NSW teams to Ireland, I guess).

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The thing that interests me about Northern Academies is this:

55.6% of AFL Clubs are based in Victoria, while 53.2% of AFL players come from Victoria
11.1% of AFL Clubs are based in WA, while 14.7% of AFL players come from WA
11.1% of AFL Clubs are based in SA, while 13.5% of AFL players come from SA

Whereas:
11.1% of AFL Clubs are based in NSW, while 5.1% of AFL players come from NSW
11.1% of AFL Clubs are based in Queensland, while 4.5% of AFL players come from Queensland

And then you have:
3.5% of AFL players come from Tasmania
1.4% of AFL players come from NT
2.2% from Ireland.
The rest are international/cross-code recruits


You can argue the model, but there's definitely an argument there in favour of encouraging the development of northern talent (or at least in favour of sending one of the Qld teams to Tasmania and one of the NSW teams to Ireland, I guess).

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Definitely not arguing for eradication of northern academies - Brisbane use them very well without getting ridiculous benefits like we've seen from Green, Blakey, Mills, Heeney, etc.

I just feel privileged access to the elite talent should be restricted
 
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Definitely not arguing for eradication of northern academies - Brisbane use them very well without getting ridiculous benefits like we've seen from Green, Blakey, Mills, Heeney, etc.

I just feel privileged access to the elite talent should be restricted
Just need to find a way to keep incentivising them to develop that talent. Or at least stop the gaming of the system with points (can only match with a pick in the same round or something).
 
Definitely not arguing for eradication of northern academies - Brisbane use them very well without getting ridiculous benefits like we've seen from Green, Blakey, Mills, Heeney, etc.

I just feel privileged access to the elite talent should be restricted
So what you're saying is that its right that Qld and NSW have academies to develop players - but only if they're shit.
 
Will encourage more hiding away of players and have a negative effect on talent development imo

Rubbish, most of these kids are playing footy long before the AFL clubs discover them.

Its a rort to keep the clubs in heartland footy States comfortable.
 

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So what you're saying is that its right that Qld and NSW have academies to develop players - but only if they're sh*t.

Wants the benefit of 100 years of junior footy development but squawks when the developing States find a jewel in the rough.
 

Next Generation Academy Concessions

From 2021, Next Generation Academies (NGAs) - targeting Indigenous and multicultural players - will be overseen by the AFL Talent Pathway program with support from AFL Clubs. As part of this change, the AFL Commission determined that the concession model for NGAs be revised to reflect this.

The following changes to the NGA concession model ahead of the 2021 and 2022 NAB AFL Drafts will be as follows:

  • From 2021, nominated NGA prospects will only be eligible to be matched from Pick 21 in the NAB AFL Draft. All other players selected from Pick 41 onwards can be matched by their Club using their next available selection, while undrafted players are still eligible to pre-selected on the rookie list.
  • From 2022, nominated NGA prospects will only be eligible to be matched from Pick 41 onwards by their Club using their next available selection, while undrafted players are still eligible to pre-selected on the rookie list.
This model allows for elite talent to be available to all AFL Clubs while still ensuring late prospects can find their way onto an AFL list and continue their relationship with the respective Club that has been supporting them.

A summary of changes can be found in the table below:

RoundCurrent20212022
1st Round (Pick 1 – 20)20% discountNo accessNo access
2nd Round (Pick 21 – 40)197 points197 pointsNo access
3rd Round (Pick 41 - 60)197 pointsUse next available selectionUse next available selection
4th Round (Pick 61 +)197 pointsUse next available selectionUse next available selection
Rookie ListAny undrafted playerAny undrafted playerAny undrafted player



Please apply this to the Northern acadamies and F/S next.

A step in the right direction to a completely equitable system.
 
Great changes for NGA. I'd argue this should be extended to northern academies and father son, but at least it's a start.
These changes make sense. I think academies are a bit of a joke with the current discount system. The Dogs will get a nice one this year though :D

I do love the FS rule, despite it having possibly the same issue at times, I just think it's a unique rule in sport and a great part of the game.
 
What annoys me about this is for 20 years Melbourne clubs have had the advantage of getting father/son picks for next to nothing.

However when a few clubs get an advantage from getting NGA players they immediately shift the goalposts.

Disgraceful.
The changes have been triggered by a Melbourne club getting benefits (Dogs with JUH) so I'm not sure I agree there.

As for father son, I absolutely agree that it's a horseshit system that has historically favoured a few clubs, including the Dogs. Even worse when they make the requirements different for WA and SA teams.

I'm fully in favour of overhauling the entire system to make the draft less compromised and the entire recruiting system closer to an even playing field, and have argued that point constantly around here
 

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Rubbish, most of these kids are playing footy long before the AFL clubs discover them.

Its a rort to keep the clubs in heartland footy States comfortable.
NGA's were created to shut up people like Maguire who prattled on incessantly about the Northern academies. NGA's are a rort, not one of the players selected via an NGA (Quaynor?) was not already playing AFL and in the elite system already.

I support the Northern academies, they have genuinely brought in kids that were playing other sports and it's not just the handful that make it onto AFL lists, it's the hundreds that go through those systems and play at lower levels when not drafted creating stronger local clubs and significantly growing the game in hostile territory.

I support F/S but discounts should go, having the right to match with later picks should be sufficient.

This is a year too late of course, we don't have access to the best player in the draft which as wooden spooners we should be entitled to, JUH is going to a top 8 side for a bunch of late picks. I'm sure we would have liked local boy Jones as well, at our second pick, but he's going to a top 4 side for a similar bunch of late picks.

You can bet Maguire squealed long and loud to Gil about these changes, for once the AFL has shown some spine to correct a wrong
 
As for father son, I absolutely agree that it's a horseshit system that has historically favoured a few clubs, including the Dogs. Even worse when they make the requirements different for WA and SA teams.
Well there's a long story about that but once SANFL agreed to the formula and then VFL found out that SANFL includes pre-season games in game total they reneged wouldn't include those games. Port only got one player from father/son and he wasn't eligible but nobody checked. Brett Ebert's dad played 391 games for Port including 4 Magarey medals, coached the club and has his statue out the front of Adelaide Oval but wasn't eligible for father/son.

The pain continues this year James Borlace son of Darryl 246 games for Port 3 time premiership player and former captain - James is a NGA for Adelaide Crows because he was born in Egypt and lives in the wrong area ie Adelaide Crows area.
 
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As for father son, I absolutely agree that it's a horseshit system that has historically favoured a few clubs, including the Dogs. Even worse when they make the requirements different for WA and SA teams.
The requirements aren't different – they're allowed to recruit the sons of players who have played 100 games for their respective AFL Clubs. The 250/300 game players of their SANFL/WAFL affiliated clubs is an entering the league bonus, one that GWS and GC don't have any equivalent for at all (Bris have Roys and Syd have Souths obviously).
 
Yep, just the same as NGA

The development of Aussie Rules is coming a long way in Queensland (and New South Wales) with these academies, with a lot more success than the previous development programs. These clubs are incentivised by having access to these players, to reduce the "go home" factor by increasing the proportion of home grown players on their list. If you're going to take away that incentive, then the AFL can take over the funding and running of these academies (as they are with the NGAs).

Just taking an example from the Brisbane academy, Jack Payne represented Australia in discus throwing and also played rugby union growing up. He was scouted at age 13 and was invited to come and join the Lions academy, and about eight years later he was running out in a preliminary final.

Brisbane came very close to poaching Kalyn Ponga from the grasps of the NRL. He was involved with the Lions academy from age 15, and was about to sign a four year contract with Brisbane before Newcastle came along with a big bag of money. 10 years ago, I suspect playing in the AFL wouldn't have even registered on his radar.
 

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