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I know PAFC66 is a bit of a campaigner sometimes, but he's right on this occasion. A Toumpas turnover on half back actually did lead to Breust marking and kicking that point. There was a soft free paid in between as well, if you feel like blaming the umpires instead.


lol pissed Hoff gif No.2.
 
Selection makes sense - Aaron came in for Chad, Aaron goes out for Chad. Last week was a 50 point win, so we must reward the players with that. Is it best 22?, perhaps not but it is a winning team made better with the inclusion of Chad.
 

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My reaction to Toumpas getting selected is pretty much the same as Westhoff's reaction to Toumpas' kicking.

heck. He cant talk! Westhoff serial offender. Lets beat up guys deserving a chance and continue excuses for players under peforming in big games for years. Perspective
 
Toumpass did ok. Harsh comments here against him. Sure he didn't do a lot of penetrative kicks, but if he handballs instead would he be better? Fact is he got to the space to get the ball 27 times. He worked hard and proved to be a good link.
not a bad 1st game back
 
It seems to be the psyche of BF that a fair number move on from one whipping boy to the next whipping boy ad infinitum...with so many having to eat their words a year or two later. Same old shit.
 

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"This is nothing personal, but with regards to Toumpas, do you really think he's the best option to play wing?"

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"I know what's on your mind Kazansky, just get on it!"
 
I know PAFC66 is a bit of a campaigner sometimes, but he's right on this occasion. A Toumpas turnover on half back actually did lead to Breust marking and kicking that point. There was a soft free paid in between as well, if you feel like blaming the umpires instead.


He does have loopy/hang time/hospital pass kicks :(
 
Emergenices: Jake Neade, Willem Drew, Jesse Palmer

Told you that Drew was closer :)

He did have a massive game last w/e but I still reckon Atley has been more consistent over the year.
 
Toumpas doesn't even play wing in the SANFL


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And monfries doesn't play outside of the pocket at AFL level, players get played out of position in the SANFL to accommodate for the lack of experience in some positions. Toumpas has played exclusively on the wing at AFL level and continues to do so for us this weekend.
 

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And monfries doesn't play outside of the pocket at AFL level, players get played out of position in the SANFL to accommodate for the lack of experience in some positions. Toumpas has played exclusively on the wing at AFL level and continues to do so for us this weekend.

Players play out of position in the SANFL due to the regulations placed on the Magpies and Crows.

Lobbe, Frampton, Ladhams, Howard, Eddy, Marshall.... Big team on paper.
 
And monfries doesn't play outside of the pocket at AFL level, players get played out of position in the SANFL to accommodate for the lack of experience in some positions. Toumpas has played exclusively on the wing at AFL level and continues to do so for us this weekend.

Lol so your logic is they have to be fit, firing, and full time - yet can be played out of position for the last three months? Some consistency of argument please.


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Lol so your logic is they have to be fit, firing, and full time - yet can be played out of position for the last three months? Some consistency of argument please.


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You dont get it.

Toumpas is a wingman at AFL level, we don't have another unless you want to rip Brad out of the middle (which would be stupid) or have Hartlett playing even worse then Toumpas does on the wing (which would be even more stupid).

It's between Toumpas and Drew and Drew isn't ready.
 
Really disappointing the backwards step Young has taken this year though. He started showing some elite traits last year, with an ability to win contests and create opportunities out of nowhere.

Unfortunately instead of continuing that trend he now joins the long list of fringe players that we've seen glimpses from one year before they fall away the next year.

We desperately need to start turning some of these fringe players into something special or we'll never go anywhere. S Gray, Young, AhChee, Toumpas, etc. We need to turn this group into consistent AFL players. Do that and we're a shot at the big show.

Retrospectively last year Young probably got a lot of goals from joe the jenkins', this year for whatever reason we aren't playing that sort of high risk football that results in goals like that as often(for either team). At least that's how it feels.

However even his around the ground stuff has fallen away. Personally I think we need the 18 years to stand up I would prefer pumping them up over trying too much longer with the 22 yo plodders although we have to win games too.
 
You dont get it.

Toumpas is a wingman at AFL level, we don't have another unless you want to rip Brad out of the middle (which would be stupid) or have Hartlett playing even worse then Toumpas does on the wing (which would be even more stupid).

It's between Toumpas and Drew and Drew isn't ready.

I get it but I disagree with you and think your arguments are flawed as to who we can play where.

It is not between Toumpas and Drew at all. Especially if you have seen past selections where we swap smalls and talls in and out of the team and shuffle players around.

I think many players (or combination of players throughout a match) can play wing better than Toumpas. Impey Boak Wingard Pittard Johnson.. even Bonner, would all offer more than Toumpas. Playing any of those there would not affect our core midfield or forward line set-ups.


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