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Who's do you want out. Who come's in & Why?


Subi is at 170m long & 122m is very different from the shorter MCG 160m long & 139m wide. It favours longer kicking & high marking fwds. The climate is dryer and the ground is are harder.

Our running game failed last year and could fall again if we dont bring in a more traditional marking fwd.


For me Hurley is a lock. He will add to the growing confidence of Wilo, Gumby & Ryder. However if Monfries is physically ready, he should also play, he is inform and his style would suit the ground.

Many will put a case fwd for Mcveigh, perhaps the heart & soul of the club - his week in hospital would leave him in less than ideal shape for the game, especially on a bigger ground where endurance running is so important. Best leave him out for a week or two..

So into the side, Hurley & Monfries if ok.

Based on form I would say that either Winda's, Welsh, Houli or Lonergan should be dropped. Or perhaps the new boys, Melk or Colyer.

Colyer was good enough to hold his spot - he will play next week. Melk was also pretty good & showed exellent poise & skill under pressure when it mattered.

Out of that bunch, sad to say Houli is probably the one that is most likely to lose his spot. not because he was bad -hls game was Ok, but not much more. Too many to hot to handle handballs & kicks over head of leading players. Defensively though he was pretty good I thought, sticking to his man, playing almost as well as Slatts.

Welsh's game was ok not too many faults really - as a vice captain he aint going anywhere. Lonergan was a bit better, although Lonergan did some good things at vital last night.

Winda's performance so far this year suggets to me that he still has the back problem. His impact is very minimal. I feel that he has a great future at our club but needs a spell in the two's.

So Hurley & Monfries to replace Houli & Windas

Go Bombers :thumbsu:
 
Re: In's / Out's against the Eagles at Subi

IMO we need pace in the midfield, which Colyar gives us. Then we should bring in Neagle and Hurley for forwards. IMO running fast midfields and tall, strong marking forwards. Something that we havnt had for years
 
Re: In's / Out's against the Eagles at Subi

Won't go into this yet as it's just after game day so still all wound up, but no chance for Welsh to go out. Did a nice run with job on Murphy and still saw a bit of the ball himself. Not a great game, but easily a pass mark.
 

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Re: In's / Out's against the Eagles at Subi

Won't go into this yet as it's just after game day so still all wound up, but no chance for Welsh to go out. Did a nice run with job on Murphy and still saw a bit of the ball himself. Not a great game, but easily a pass mark.

Great point..Murphy is as important IMO to the Blues as Judd - he stopped him cold. as stated he aint going anywhere.
 
Re: In's / Out's against the Eagles at Subi

So Hurley & Monfries to replace Houli & Monfries.

You might wanna fix that up, but I agree Houli and Winderlich were the "okay" players without a lot of impact and Welsh kept Murphy fairly quiet. If Monfries isn't okay to play then I'd keep Winderlich in the team. I don't think there's any rush for McVeigh to come back at the moment.
 
Who do we drop against Weagles?

I think theres a few guys that will be pushing to get back into the 22 - Monfires, McVeigh maybe if hes not crook still, Hurley kicked 4 for Bendigo so surely will come under consideration, as will Laycock who played OK for Bendigo. Howlett, Davey, Prismall possibilities I guess, and whats happened with Neagle...??

Good problem to have I guess just not sure who will miss as I felt both debutants Colyer & Milky did OK, as did Houli without setting the world on fire.
Zaharakis, Winderlich didnt have much impact, Welsh quiet again. Not sure but youd think possible OUTS: would be Houli, Milky, Colyer, Zaharakis, Winderlich (whats going on with Winders??), Welsh, Lonergan
Possible INS: Hurley, Monfries, McVeigh, Laycock, Howlett, Davey, Prismall, Neagle

Will be interesting to see what Knights does but as he showed this week hes not afraid to make tough decisions and maybe time is running out for guys like Welsh & Winders...
 
Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

What game were you watching?!

Welsh tagged the crap out of Murphy. Took him right out of the game in the absence of Judd. He was pivotal last night!

Winders, as much as I love him, he just isn't right somehow. I think its probably due more to being played out of position. Now that we have Zaha as a small leading forward, Winders should be given a permanent midfield role to get him back up form-wise.

I don't think anyone really deserves to be dropped after a win....

Out: Winderlich, Lonergan? :confused:
In: Hurley, Prismall
 
Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

Welsh had a great game tonight. No way will he be dropped.

Reports from Bendigo - Both Prismall and Myers very average.
Neagle still lacking match fitness (Will struggle to be back in the side barring injury)
Hurley and Davey - great games.

Also of note - Howlett and Hardigham didn;t play for Bendigo - Are they being kept fresh for next Friday??

Not sure on the status of Monfries injury and I have concerns about Winderlich's injury. Mcveigh won;t be ready either.

In: Hurley, Davey, Howlett
Out: Longergan, Winderlich (if unfit) and maybe Houli???
 
Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

Interesting selections this week.

Hurley is a must as we have looked a man short in the KPP stakes up forward.

Subi is a big ground and seeing Davey was one of the best in the VFL then we might have to take a punt on him and put him back in.

Monfries, will he be right?

McVeigh?

Houli, Lonergan might be sweating and maybe Colyer who was good but sprayed it a bit.

For the first time in years I can't make up my mind on who goes and who stays.
 
Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

One of Hocking/Lonergan has to go - Can't play both of them at Subi IMO.

Definitely need to keep Colyer and Melksham - they give our engine room some serious running power which is what we need at Subi.

McVeigh to come in but only as a small defender to do a job on LeCras.

Keep one of Slattery/Houli - I'd actually like to see Houli used as a creative HFF.

Hurley is a definite inclusion - will make our forward line a lot more dangerous, even if it just means that Williams doesn't take the best defender anymore.
 

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Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

Again we have to go with our best running side at Subi. We took slow, cumbersome teams there last year and looked woeful.

IMO we cant take Prismall/McVeigh (especially coming off illness in perth), Myers a no-brainer etc.

Id take out Lonergan, and bring in Hurley (a given to come back). Houli was bad, but id give him one more go on the open spaces.

Apparently monfries said 2 weeks on the radio, so i will leave him out.

Anyone else believe we have to seriously re-assess our best 22?

We just seem to play so much better with guys suited to the style playing (suprise suprise), and without a few of the traditional "best 22" guys.
 
Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

actually seeing as Howlett and Hardingham were 'rested' yesterday, with a short break wouldnt shock at all to see one or both of these.

Hurley/Howlett/Hardingham (will love the open spaces of subi)

out: Lonergan/Houli and ?
 
Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

Out: Houli, Colyer (stiff to miss)
In: Hurley, Atkinson

B: Slattery, Pears, Fletcher
HB: Atkinson, Hooker, Dempsey
C: Dyson, Hocking, Stanton
HF: Winderlich (last chance), Gumbleton, Reimers
F: Williams, Hurley, Lovett-Murray
R: Ryder, Watson, Welsh
Int: Hille, Lonergan, Melksham, Zaharakis
Emerg: Colyer, Howlett, Hardingham
 

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Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

No McVeigh, no Prismal.

We were a better side.

heres one a little bit left field, but with a 6 day turn around and having to travel to perth for a friday night game and the eagles only really having 1 maybe 2 big forwards how about giving fletch a week off this week considering we have big games coming up against collingwood and hawthorn after the eagles game. i would also leave monfries and mcveigh both out this week let them get primed for an anzac day return.
i would go with
in. hurley, davey, howlett
out. fletcher(rested), hocking(don't need him,welsh and watson on a big ground like subi) winders( looks like he needs a rest)
 
Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

heres one a little bit left field, but with a 6 day turn around and having to travel to perth for a friday night game and the eagles only really having 1 maybe 2 big forwards how about giving fletch a week off this week considering we have big games coming up against collingwood and hawthorn after the eagles game. i would also leave monfries and mcveigh both out this week let them get primed for an anzac day return.
i would go with
in. hurley, davey, howlett
out. fletcher(rested), hocking(don't need him,welsh and watson on a big ground like subi) winders( looks like he needs a rest)

Fletch rested. :eek:

Our win/loss ratio without Fletch over 15 years is terrible. After a man of the match performance against the Blues you'd have to be crazy to drop him.

The man's a machine and let him keep doing what he does. No one rests while we are fighting tooth and nail for our season.
 
Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

Very tough selections this week with Howlett, Hurley, Prismall and Davey all pushing for a spot.

I really dont think Lonergan should be dropped. Need guys like him in the team. Houli didnt play too well. He had too many floater handballs to teamates, and some of his decisions werent the greatest but i would think it harsh to drop him after 1 game.

Colyer and Melks should both stay IMO. Colyers' runs were awesome and should take daveys spot for now.

Winders to be dropped??

Also i dont think Mcveigh will be back as a family member had the same illness and you dont recover fully after 1 week and should not be played.
 
Re: Who do we drop against Weagles?

Can someone please tell me what Hockings role is in the side? I just can't see him been in our best side yet he is in every week. Too slow for the midfield and the backline and can only really tag a player yet we have Slattery down back and Welsh through the midfield.
 
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