Unofficial Preview Changes vs GWS

[Bianconeri]

Why is everyone Desperate to put Howe Forward?

I’m not a fan of moving Howe forward, but have you seen our forwardline the past two games?

 

[JLC]

If we wait for exposed form and to justify selection then our season might be over by then.

In the case of West he surely cannot be that far behind Buller? Buller had the spot but has not shown much - toss of the coin going forward.

Saxena is a player we don't have a lot of. Would be more than happy for him to get an opportunity sooner rather than later.

Steene makes sense. We need a second ruckman and he is next inline.

 

[Dtennent94]

If we wait for exposed form and to justify selection then our season might be over by then.

In the case of West he surely cannot be that far behind Buller? Buller had the spot but has not shown much - toss of the coin going forward.

Saxena is a player we don't have a lot of. Would be more than happy for him to get an opportunity sooner rather than later.

Steene makes sense. We need a second ruckman and he is next inline.

What does Latrelle Pickett have that Saxena doesn’t?

 

[stormskye]

What does Latrelle Pickett have that Saxena doesn’t?

a mature football frame for one. Pickett is 20 and 18 months older. Also won the state 2km trial so he can run.

 

[No SPIN]

If we wait for exposed form and to justify selection then our season might be over by then.

In the case of West he surely cannot be that far behind Buller? Buller had the spot but has not shown much - toss of the coin going forward.

Saxena is a player we don't have a lot of. Would be more than happy for him to get an opportunity sooner rather than later.

Steene makes sense. We need a second ruckman and he is next inline.

Doesn’t exposed form allow a player to come into the seniors with more confidence about their abilities - and therefore maximize their chance of success.
Confidence is a fragile commodity in young players that we should patiently develop.
Play them to early and the set backs may take a great deal of time to overcome.

 

[60 Yards Out]

Doesn’t exposed form allow a player to come into the seniors with more confidence about their abilities - and therefore maximize their chance of success.
Confidence is a fragile commodity in young players that we should patiently develop.
Play them to early and the set backs may take a great deal of time to overcome.

West in I reckon. He was good enough to be selected last year — can’t imagine he’s got worse in the meantime.

 

[manicpie]

Why is everyone Desperate to put Howe Forward?

Because our forward line can't get separation, let alone take a mark. I don't think we need him in defence, our defence has stood up well without Moore and Howe.

 

[Peters_Nuts]

I reckon we're a day or two away from suggesting Moore should play forward...

The only reason I would be open to playing Howe forward is if it meant Parker stays in the team because we need to develop him.

Still, I'd rather trial Buller, West and Membrey over moving Howe forward.

 

[stormskye]

I reckon we're a day or two away from suggesting Moore should play forward...

The only reason I would be open to playing Howe forward is if it meant Parker stays in the team because we need to develop him.

Still, I'd rather trial Buller, West and Membrey over moving Howe forward.

The doomsayers are already suggesting we play saxena as seasons well and truly over after that 10 goal smashing by last years wooden spoon team

 

[manicpie]

The doomsayers are already suggesting we play saxena as seasons well and truly over after that 10 goal smashing by last years wooden spoon team

It's crazy. I feel like I'm reliving the 80s.

 

[Horaceg]

I reckon we're a day or two away from suggesting Moore should play forward...

The only reason I would be open to playing Howe forward is if it meant Parker stays in the team because we need to develop him.

Still, I'd rather trial Buller, West and Membrey over moving Howe forward.

I think there’s a good chance one more MOTY for Howe, he’s been robbed and I think it’s his best chance using McStay as the platform, Moore could go down there too, slightly higher platform.

 

[timokane]

Surely west and harrison are both close now

 

[No SPIN]

I reckon we're a day or two away from suggesting Moore should play forward...

The only reason I would be open to playing Howe forward is if it meant Parker stays in the team because we need to develop him.

Still, I'd rather trial Buller, West and Membrey over moving Howe forward.

Agree - we need to stay the course with Buller and Mcstay with West eventually substituted for Membrey ( given his age).
BMW is the future no need for Howe to pinch hit and stall the cohesion between them. We need to stay the course with BMW, knee jerk changes offered here by many are counter productive.

 

[granniewolf]

Agree - we need to stay the course with Buller and Mcstay with West eventually substituted for Membrey ( given his age).
BMW is the future no need for Howe to pinch hit and stall the cohesion between them. We need to stay the course with BMW, knee jerk changes offered here by many are counter productive.

That's not what he said.
He said

"Still, I'd rather trial Buller, West and Membrey over moving Howe forward."
Didn't mention McStay.

 

[No SPIN]

West in I reckon. He was good enough to be selected last year — can’t imagine he’s got worse in the meantime.

I would have expected more in the GWS practice games hence my keenness to hold him over until he’s shown form in the VFL. There is no rush in my opinion.

 

[No SPIN]

That's not what he said.
He said

"Still, I'd rather trial Buller, West and Membrey over moving Howe forward."
Didn't mention McStay.

Adding McStay are my words

 

[Peters_Nuts]

I would have expected more in the GWS practice games hence my keenness to hold him over until he’s shown form in the VFL. There is no rush in my opinion.

I agree there's no rush though McStay has shown nothing and his turnovers have been costly.

At 30, it's hard to see where the improvement comes from aside from between the ears. He needs confidence from the VFL

Membrey and Buller need to be doing more too, though at least they're competing.

 

[VinnieB]

What does Latrelle Pickett have that Saxena doesn’t?

moustache

 

[VinnieB]

I'd like to see more speed. Maybe Hayes or Harrison.
Wouldn't mind seeing Steene come in as the 2nd ruckman playing forward. He can jump and take a grab. McStay and Membrey can't get off the ground these days.

 

[Jelly Bean]

Why is everyone Desperate to put Howe Forward?

Because we need someone who can take a mark in our forward line... I'm surprised at the question to be honest.

 

[Jelly Bean]

Okay - so this is my preferred option for the forward line.

I have said previously i don't believe Cameron is an amazing tap ruckman from the middle. His strengths are his contested marking and around the ground ruck-work.

When it mattered last season, Cox was brought into the team to provide a focal point and provide a consistent ball drop for our smalls. It also helped out Checkers and McStay.

I would move Cameron to play significantly more up forward. Cameron has the height, is good at holding front position and is a great mark and has some forward craft from when he first started. Cameron does not get out marked that often so would bring the ball to ground as a worst case scenario.

McStay then becomes the second banana which suits him more. The third spot is then Buller/West (That should allow both a proper chance to succeed). That means dropping Membrey and bringing in Steene to ruck.

I would then have the remaining forwards as Schultz/Beau, Harrison/Sullivan, and Elliott/De Goey.

That way Moore and Howe can sure up the defence and get our intercept game going. I would only bring one of Moore and Howe for GWS. Too risky to play both imo from an injury perspective.

I don't think this is the worst option we have.

The two main issues are that:
a) we lose his most valuable contributing weapon, which is contested intercept marking - he gets 4-5 per game, and other contests he impacts and brings the ball to ground. He's the best in the business, and our backline needs his support here. Steene wouldn't be able to provide anywhere near the amount of contribution here as Cameron does.
b) he isn't as good as marking when it isn't an intercept situation (for some reason). When he has an opposition looking to spoil, he isn't quite as effective

I definitely think we need to bring in either Steene or West because our forwardline needs a reshuffle either way, and maybe it is with your solution.

 

[JLC]

We have targeted players that have already been exposed to playing against men whether it be in the WAFL or SANFL

Is Charlie West going to develop quicker by playing VFL with players like HDM delivering it to him or playing seniors? If he had Sam Darcy and Naughton blocking his path then I would agree with you.

 

[Swooop]

We’ve had two games so far - a win and a close loss ( though think the scoreboard maybe flattered us a bit)
We chose what was considered the best team we could for those games based on preseason form and past history - and that included Buller, Membrey and McStay.

We’ve played without our captain, hence lacked his drive and leadership.
We have looked rudderless and disorganised at times as a result.

It’s likely Darcy will be back for the next game hopefully, touch wood.

I think we can afford to go with what we thought was our best team for one to two more weeks given the above.

We have a week to get those forwards a whole lot more organised and in sync, before we start tossing our toys out and ‘playing the kids’.

That said, if we lose badly over the next 3-4 weeks then totally agree that it will be time to start the experimenting and getting games into the kids eg West, Steene, Hayes, AA etc looking to the future.

 

[Harry O]

What does Latrelle Pickett have that Saxena doesn’t?

Size and age and sanfl experience

 

[Exambolor]

We'll be treated to an open roof at Marvel, like this change