Prediction Changes Vs St Kilda round 4, 2021

[Keys]

Reading too much into it. Vardy probably just wants a week in Melbourne. Old and experienced enough to need a week off every now and then

Id say Jones isn’t dropped. Petch would be behind him still.

Vardy was in Melbourne 2 weeks ago for the bulldogs game so I doubt they’d pull him out of the WAFL side for a holiday

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Vardy was in Melbourne 2 weeks ago for the bulldogs game so I doubt they’d pull him out of the WAFL side for a holiday

For a body rest they would. And if he is resting he may as well be with the team

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Makes no sense to me that we would take Winder and Waterman if both weren't playing (even if one were the sub).

Waterman needs game time coming back from injury, Winder has played 1 WAFL game - no point sitting him on the bench for a match.

Looks like they'll both come in, Shuey out - who is the other unlucky one?

Id guess it’s Petch myself. First in first out approach with our small forwards is fairly common

 

[THE A5]

Id guess it’s Petch myself. First in first out approach with our small forwards is fairly common

i hate that policy. Like fair enough he has been crap but without certaint, you’re never gonna allow a you g player to settle into the side and find form.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Almost certain we only sent 23

Yeah you're right, seems Venables went as the 24th, and obviously couldn't play. That just seems crazy to me. The 23rd player is the sub. Any pregame injury and you're a sub down for the game

 

[Doashuey]

YEah if Winder comes in I would put money on Petch missing.
Having a guy who is a natural footballer who can find the ball will make us a stronger team than having a very fast player who just cant seem to get to the right spot at the right time. Several times last week Petch was just mistiming his run at the fall of the ball so he would either be past it or not quite there. He was trying to get himself in the right spot but his footy IQ is still raw AF.

 

[DanWCE]

i hate that policy. Like fair enough he has been crap but without certaint, you’re never gonna allow a you g player to settle into the side and find form.

Think Petch came in because Langdon was banged up. Was worth risking Langdon as a medical sub as he was one of the better available choices should he be forced to play, but noone else was knocking the door down for that forward spot when we decided to give Langdon a rest.

Winder chops up in WAFL, seeya Petch, you only got a game because Langdon had been put through the mincer every game he played this year.

I agree the policy is not sound, but Petch in was almost a forced change with no other forwards to come in. If he's left out now then he should be focussing on a block of WAFL games (provided JJ, Langdon, Winder retain their form enough to keep him out).

 

[kaiserchief13]

Out Shuey, In Winder (1 change)
Waterman (Sub)
Langdon will find himself delisted end of year.
Cameron, Venables & Rioli all to come in.


Giddy Up Winder..
Round 4
3 Votes I Winder
A Star is born.

Langdon doesn't have much going for him. Small and slow. Not a fan so far

 

[Keys]

Nah Ainsworth flew in on saturday with some of our other players

Did he?

He played for the Beagles against east freo on the Friday night - was pulled from the game at 3/4 time though

 

[THE A5]

Think Petch came in because Langdon was banged up. Was worth risking Langdon as a medical sub as he was one of the better available choices should he be forced to play, but noone else was knocking the door down for that forward spot when we decided to give Langdon a rest.

Winder chops up in WAFL, seeya Petch, you only got a game because Langdon had been put through the mincer every game he played this year.

I agree the policy is not sound, but Petch in was almost a forced change with no other forwards to come in. If he's left out now then he should be focussing on a block of WAFL games (provided JJ, Langdon, Winder retain their form enough to keep him out).

Thats actually fair. Personally felt like Winder needs more WAFL time. Also i liked his game but yeah he did cop a few easy ones just like Vards did.

Did he?

He played for the Beagles against east freo on the Friday night - was pulled from the game at 3/4 time though

I tried looking for the photo but couldn’t find it but there was a pic of Ainsworth getting out from the bus.
It might have been an insta story.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Thats actually fair. Personally felt like Winder needs more WAFL time. Also i liked his game but yeah he did cop a few easy ones just like Vards did.

I tried looking for the photo but couldn’t find it but there was a pic of Ainsworth getting out from the bus.
It might have been an insta story.

Winder is pretty much AFL ready though. More so then most of our recent draftees. Has a insane ability to stay on his feet and not get knocked off the ball given his size. The hope would be he becomes our Robbie Gray. Similar ilk

 

[Astro7]

Did he?

He played for the Beagles against east freo on the Friday night - was pulled from the game at 3/4 time though

I think his forward defence/pressure was supposed to be good...and isn't he a bit of a goalkicker?
needs something going for him if he actually doesn't have pace...
We do lack patience, giving players time to adjust etc, played 2 games, looked slow in one against very fast Dogs...
But I admit am waiting to see what Winder and Trew bring..

 

[THE A5]

Winder is pretty much AFL ready though. More so then most of our recent draftees. Has a insane ability to stay on his feet and not get knocked off the ball given his size. The hope would be he becomes our Robbie Gray. Similar ilk

Yeah thats true but for me I get some Willie vibe the way he kicks and moves

 

[THE A5]

Waterman will play more midfield time this year then people realise. If teams get a run on expect him to push onto a wing and drift down into defence to clog up the space. He did it last year. Will do it more often though

I rate Jake’s footy IQ a lot. Think he’s natural lead up forward but could easily play any line if he is asked to. There was one passage of play in 2019 where our ball movement was stagnant and we were struggling to score. He went into defence and either nailed a long quick down the line of pulled the trigger into the corridor. I can’t remember which but it was our best passage of play that game and we goaled.

 

[EagleMutt]

Does that mean brander inside mid and waterman wing?

 

[Altum Volantes]

Yeah thats true but for me I get some Willie vibe the way he kicks and moves

So you’re saying we trade Willie without playing another game and run with Windy?

Or is there room for 2 Willies?

 

[Cuzz09]

Or coz hes black?

 

[JDWCE]

Genuinely excited at a Winder debut if it's to be... fingers crossed

 

[MrWoollie]

Please don't post sh*t from the FB cretins on here. I avoid that junk on purpose. I'm triggered by your post.

Especially if as a group post they still don't know the difference between 'their' and 'there'.

Should I ban him?

It must be tempting. Facebook is part of the evil empire and Zuckerberg (sp? who cares) is Darth Vader.

 

[squashface]

My hope is:
In: Waterman, Winder
Out: Shuey, Petruccelle, Langdon

Rotham Barrass Hurn
Nelson McGovern Sheppard
Gaff Kelly Duggan
Winder Darling Cripps
Ryan Kennedy Allen

Naitanui, Sheed, Redden

Cole, Waterman, Brander, Jones

sub: Petruccelle

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Has anyone thought Vardy might be going as cover for the dreaded NicNat late out?

 

[HoneyBadger35]

So two changes on the cards assuming we don’t debut anyone as a sub.

In: Waterman, Winder
Out: Shuey, Petch/JJ
Sub: Petch/JJ
Vardy as emergency?

Otherwise, if Vardy is tactical to dominate the ruck rather than injury forced.

In: Waterman, Vardy
Out: Shuey, ?
Sub: Whoever came out of the 22.

Winder as emergency to get travelling experience as reward for a good outing.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Not often I got on yor teams board.....

 

[Rowan18]

Has anyone thought Vardy might be going as cover for the dreaded NicNat late out?

I think Allen is a bigger risk of missing through injury. Maybe they'd bring in vardy for ruck cover and Waterman to release Brander to the middle.

 

[Freomaniac]

Why hate the saints . They paid through the nose for that little softy BHill. Are you upset they flogged that spud acres back too you ?

1st off I got no Issues on Brad Hill leaving Freo. I got no animosity towards Brad Hill, despite the saints offering huge money and his lady wanted to go back to Victoria.

Brad Hill was originally on a $2.5 million dollar deal at freo for 5 years from 2017-2021. years 1 and 2 were front loaded at $700,000 a year, year 3 was $500,000. years 4 and 5 he would only be on $300,000. Saints caught wind of it and Offered $900,000 for 5 or 6 years. Him saying no to the saints would be like turning down a lottery ticket.

I dont blame the saints, I partially blame the AFLPA for it. Struggling teams have to Pay the minimum 95% of the Salary cap. That means front loading or over paying some average players on the list.

I want the minimum Salary cap to be 92.5% or even as low as 90%. Salary cap is 13 million. 90% of that is 11.7 million dollars or 1.3 million less.

Look at Norths team. They are in a rebuild and they have to pay overs for some of their players to reach 95% of their cap. It would help them much more if they spent 90% of that 13 million and use that remaining 1.3 million on other stuf such as paying debts or upgrading (training) facilities.

I still remember back in 2011 when the Salary cap was only 8.2 million. they showed the difference between the rich and poor. Collingwood used 100% of that cap and $800,000 on the Additional service agreements. Port on the other hand used the minimum 92.5% of the cap which was 7.5 million.